GW price increase.

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**Fictional**

Miraclefish wrote:I still remember when I was in my teens and you could buy a box of Marines for pocket money.

How is it that a Tactical squad is now four times the price?

Its called "inflation".

**gilljoy**

Darnok @ Warseer wrote:Some more bits...

Originally Posted by Birdy
New prices are in. Some big jumps ahead. Razorback, Demon Prince will be £25. Predator now £35. Stormraven £50. SM Battleforce £80. Even the new Empire Hurricanum has gone up.

I have a giant spreadsheat but dont wanna risk it. Paints are the same price. Brushes up. All 40k scenary up. All new WHF Hardback books now £27.50.

Judging by the spreadsheat would recommend Demon players go out now.

Warriors of Chaos Battlaion Bundle Warhammer £65.00 £60.00
Empire Battalion (May 2012) Bundle Warhammer £65.00 £60.00
Skaven Battalion Bundle Warhammer £65.00 £65.00
Vampire Counts Battalion (Feb 2012) Bundle Warhammer £75.00 £70.00
Lizardmen Battalion Bundle Warhammer £65.00 £60.00
Orcs & Goblions Battalion Bundle Warhammer £70.00 £60.00
High Elves Battalion Bundle Warhammer £65.00 £60.00
Dark Elf Battalion Bundle Warhammer £70.00 £60.00
Ogre Kingdoms Battalion Bundle Warhammer £65.00 £60.00
Beastmen Battalion Bundle Warhammer £60.00 £60.00
Tomb Kings Battalion Bundle Warhammer £70.00 £70.00
Dark Angels Ravenwing Battleforce Bundle Warhammer 40,000 £70.00 £60.00
Space Marine Battleforce Bundle Warhammer 40,000 £80.00 £60.00
Space Wolves Battleforce Bundle Warhammer 40,000 £65.00 £60.00
Blood Angels Battleforce Bundle Warhammer 40,000 £70.00 £65.00
Chaos Space Marine Battleforce Bundle Warhammer 40,000 £80.00 £60.00
Ork Battleforce Bundle Warhammer 40,000 £65.00 £60.00
Eldar Battleforce Bundle Warhammer 40,000 £65.00 £60.00
Cadian Battleforce Bundle Warhammer 40,000 £75.00 £65.00
Tyranid Battleforce Bundle Warhammer 40,000 £75.00 £70.00
Necrons Battleforce (Feb 2012) Bundle Warhammer 40,000 £70.00 £65.00
Dark Eldar Battleforce Bundle Warhammer 40,000 £65.00 £60.00
Tau Empire Battleforce Bundle Warhammer 40,000 £75.00 £60.00
Chaos Daemons Battleforce Bundle Warhammer 40,000 £70.00 £65.00
I've also been to my GW store today. The manager had no clue of the price rise and the day it comes into effect at all - even though it's coming on Monday! Always good to know when the staff has no idea what's going on next week... .

£50 stormraven, lovely, £25 Razorback - I can see why they did this since it'll make it a little more expensive than the rhino.

GW are really gona be pricing themselves out of buisness soon.

**DarthOvious**

Grimtuff wrote:
DarthOvious wrote:So if its a 20% increase for the Stormraven then I think that this would make it £51.50 here in the UK if we get a similar 20% increase. Ouch!

Close, SR's are rumoured to be £50.

Actually thats slightly over 20%. I was using a comparable increase using the American prices to get my figure because I wasn't sure if it was a flat out 20% or just roughly 20%. I probably calculated it wrong anyway.

Ouch!! I still have a few things I want to buy for my BA as well. A second Stormraven was one as well as a Land Raider Redeemer. However I wanted to get my 5th Razorback first, another Baal Predator on the two I already have and also two more standard Preds.

I'm actually really cheesed off by the fact that there has been no announcement of this yet. It wouldn't really matter very much anyway since I can only buy so much at a time but it's only common curtesy to give your customers a head up. The fact that miniwargaming has posted this days before GW themselves just says it all. Really sad news as well since it makes it even harder to actually start a different army in the future. I've stuck with my BA since 3rd Ed and its look it's staying that way. For Fantasy I just need a few additions to my Vamps and thats it.

**Phototoxin**

Has there been any official announcement. Usually they do a 'unfortunatly due to the influence of Mammon we need to put up prices so please panic buy in this following week' type thing.

Which if they are going up I'll have to buy £40 of stuff online (which is £50 in GW, which WILL be £60-65?)

For that money I'd rather get a decent boardgame or RPG. I got 2 of the D&D boardgames for my birthday. The miniatures are mass produced, cheap and cheerful but are fine. A major issue with GW is while they are uber detailed I don't really care since sphezz marines are not elites, they are just fodder to die. wound counters if you will. It's even worse for fantasy with hordes and the like...

**DarthOvious**

Fictional wrote:
Miraclefish wrote:I still remember when I was in my teens and you could buy a box of Marines for pocket money.

How is it that a Tactical squad is now four times the price?

Its called "inflation".

I think they've been raising prices higher than inflation really. I'm not sure how you can add 20% onto one model during one price increase and then try to justify that as "inflation".

**Grimtuff**

Fictional wrote:
Miraclefish wrote:I still remember when I was in my teens and you could buy a box of Marines for pocket money.

How is it that a Tactical squad is now four times the price?

Its called "inflation".

Where's a good facepalm when you need one? Here we go:

If you think GW's price rises are in line with inflation, then you're more deluded than the guys running GW.

**Groundh0g**

My first ever non-GW models! I have nfi how I'm going to paint these PanOceania models but man, love the detail. Also very easy to see the difference between GW 28mm and non-GW 28mm.

**unmercifulconker**

Oh for goodness sake just realised, how much do you reckon the new ruleook will cost?

edit: might as well wait for starter set.

**lord_blackfang**

As far as I'm concerned, the rulebook comes free with the purchase of a starting CSM and DA army...

**Sidstyler**

Fictional wrote:
Miraclefish wrote:I still remember when I was in my teens and you could buy a box of Marines for pocket money.

How is it that a Tactical squad is now four times the price?

Its called "inflation".

Except it's not, which is well-established in each and every thread like this. "Inflation" doesn't account for 25%+ increases in price every single year.

Groundh0g wrote:My first ever non-GW models! I have nfi how I'm going to paint these PanOceania models but man, love the detail.

Yeah, I was kinda surprised by the Infinity models myself. All I've known for the past 6 years or so is GW, and I have to say the Infinity models easily surpass them both in detail and price.

**H.B.M.C.**

Fictional wrote:Its called "inflation".

Everybody's a comedian.

Wait... you're serious aren't you? Oh dear...

**Davylove21**

I did NOT just see a SM Battleforce price of £80! I'm so glad I'm not 15 anymore, I'd never be able to get an army

**Morathi's Darkest Sin**

Aye, trading my Ravenwing box back for a Imperial Guard battalion today, also going to get a Catachan one, and a Mansion before the rise, from my local GW.

Really glad I held steady and didn't open the Dark Angels one, normally I'd have faltered after a month.

**angel of ecstasy**

Well, no second army for me. Maybe it's for the best.

**Nagashek**

warboss wrote:
Reecius wrote:The price change is going to be global. Everyone will see it (poos Australia!).

If anyone wants to place an order with us, they can lock in the current prices up until next Friday, 6-1-2012

Do you actually have to change the prices? My old FLGS would only change the prices on new product ordered at that newer, higher price instead of redoing all their existing stock. It was less work for them and a bit of a thank you for us gamers who shopped locally.

My LGS put orange stickers on all the in store products. Everything would be scanned in, sure, but he would apply a discount to anything with an orange sticker. It was extra work (as he had to add in the remaining stock of pre-rise items to his spreadsheet to keep people from swapping stickers) but we all appreciated him for it. It helped to continue loyalty for the store even if our loyalty to the product waned, keeping us spending on new items.

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H.B.M.C. wrote:
cgage00 wrote:Well sadly I'm starting a family and it's time to hang up my wargaming.

*squints*

Wargaming and families are mutually exclusive? The multitude of people who post here and have kids would seem to suggest otherwise.

The cost of raising a child to the age of 18 is in excess of $1 million (American). The cost of a new SM army is now much, much more.

**Kurce**

Isengard wrote:Personally I won't play anything else, I play 40k because I like the scale, the figures and most of all the hugely rich background. I don't especially like wargames per se and Warmachine looks like a cheap skirmish based GW knock-off to me.

They are just different games. Warmachine is geared more towards competitive gaming while 40K is geared toward casual gaming. And if you played a game of Warmachine, you would realize that it is not a "cheap skirmish based GW-knock off." The rules for Warmachine are 110% different and the game plays nothing like 40K. For starters, PP did a pretty good job in MK2 at making the rules actually make sense. GW on the other hand has never even attempted such a thing.

**timetowaste85**

Grimtuff wrote:
unmercifulconker wrote:Wow over 30 quid for a tac squad absolutely ridiculous, so it would probably cost about 50 quid to create a BT unit, isn't it fantastic?

Indeed. I remember when the Tacs first came out and they were £10, as plastic was supposed to "be cheaper". I honestly cannot think of anything off the top of my head that has risen 200% in price over the last 14 years.

In NY...Gasoline, Soda and Cigarettes. Those are just off the top of my head. I'll come up with more eventually. Video games are a toughie, as they typically cost double what they used to with DLC content plus the $10 raise over the past ten years, so that one's on the line. But that's 3 to 4 massive price increases. GW..well, this price rise isn't affecting me (except it may have finally ended my addiction to Daemon Princes).

**pretre**

timetowaste85 wrote:
Grimtuff wrote:
unmercifulconker wrote:Wow over 30 quid for a tac squad absolutely ridiculous, so it would probably cost about 50 quid to create a BT unit, isn't it fantastic?

Indeed. I remember when the Tacs first came out and they were £10, as plastic was supposed to "be cheaper". I honestly cannot think of anything off the top of my head that has risen 200% in price over the last 14 years.

In NY...Gasoline, Soda and Cigarettes. Those are just off the top of my head. I'll come up with more eventually. Video games are a toughie, as they typically cost double what they used to with DLC content plus the $10 raise over the past ten years, so that one's on the line. But that's 3 to 4 massive price increases. GW..well, this price rise isn't affecting me (except it may have finally ended my addiction to Daemon Princes).

Legos for through Factory/Pick a brick. Gee another high end hobby item.
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/109368

Although considered 'volatile' food prices jumped over 50% in 2010 for some food items (corn for example).

**timetowaste85**

I forgot, the cost of potato chips has sky-rocketed too. What was $3 for a bag of Doritos is now ~$4.50 within the past couple years. Now, that's only a buck fifty per bag difference, but it's also a 50% increase. And that is most certainly a luxury food-there is no redeeming quality to Doritos, unless you consider gaining weight with no nutrients to be redeeming. The survival time of Doritos is also far lower than the survival time of your models-can't ever eat the serving size alone.

And thanks pretre for the Lego comment-I fully agree. They have gone nuts in cost.

Another thing, in college I collected Marvel Legends figures, right up until Hasbro took over. They cost $6.50 when I started, bumped to $8, now Hasbro is charging $12 each for them (95% increase) over the span of less than a decade, with decreased detail, cheaper paints and plastics and they removed the comic books that Toy Biz originally added. Their G I Joe sized line costs more than Toy Biz's 6" figures ever did. You want evil, look to Hasbro. Mother Fethers are worse than GW. I stopped buying ML because of the price-they look nice posed on my desk, but the cost is way too high.

When I was poor, I was pretty against GW raising prices because I couldn't afford them. I feel bad for everyone who is suffering from being priced out of the hobby they love (and especially for Australia and Japan-there are NO excuses for the costs they endure!!), but I don't mind the prices I pay for GW now. I'll pay attention to how GW changes prices compared to other luxury items-if they go crazy compared to others, my spending will eventually end. If they stay close to others, I'll keep buying. That said, if I lived in Australia or Japan, I'd have quit a long time ago-you guys who keep playing and buying are truly dedicated, and I hope GW will eventually (quickly) adjust your prices to be near the rest of ours.

**Vampirate of Sartosa**

Aw, and I was just thinking about getting an OK battalion.

**Tigerone**

Very well said timetowaste85.

**oni**

The amount of rationalization going on in this thread is alarming.

**H.B.M.C.**

Nagashek wrote:The cost of raising a child to the age of 18 is in excess of $1 million (American). The cost of a new SM army is now much, much more.

Which really doesn't answer my point. I mean, you'd be right if he were going to build a new army... but he already has an army.

**derek**

timetowaste85 wrote: Another thing, in college I collected Marvel Legends figures, right up until Hasbro took over. They cost $6.50 when I started, bumped to $8, now Hasbro is charging $12 each for them (95% increase) over the span of less than a decade, with decreased detail, cheaper paints and plastics and they removed the comic books that Toy Biz originally added. Their G I Joe sized line costs more than Toy Biz's 6" figures ever did. You want evil, look to Hasbro. Mother Fethers are worse than GW. I stopped buying ML because of the price-they look nice posed on my desk, but the cost is way too high.

I noticed this in Wal-Mart the other day. I wanted a Cyclops figure for my desk. I did not want to pay over $9.00 for a GI Joe sized figure of Cyclops for my desk. My wallet won the debate.

While I'm once again frustrated with GW's decision to continue to drive up prices on something that is already at a pretty high price comparative to the rest of the War Gaming hobby, I am in a position this year that the cost increase doesn't effect me all too much. Mostly because the few purchases I have left to make are non Marine items, and the largest bulk of them (Chimera's) only went up $2.50 each.

**pretre**

oni wrote:The amount of rationalization going on in this thread is alarming.

How dare we think and rationalize! Scandalous.

**Tigerone**

oni wrote:The amount of rationalization going on in this thread is alarming.

Don’t you mean the amount of whining?

**H.B.M.C.**

Yeah 'cause how dare we be unhappy about a price increase.

We should all be beaming about it like pretre there.

**DarthDiggler**

I wonder if some things went up in price more because they know it will be a hot ticket item in 6th edition?

**H.B.M.C.**

That would require GW to understand their own rule-system on a wide scale. Given they seem to design Codices (and sometimes units within those Codices) in a vacuum, I doubt this is the case.

**Davylove21**

Vampirate of Sartosa wrote:Aw, and I was just thinking about getting an OK battalion.

Do it would be my recommendation - Ogre Kingdoms Box is going up £5 but much else of the OK line seems unchanged although I haven't read the whole price list, just skimmed it.

The list is up on Gifts for Geeks website, btw