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 SonicPara wrote:

 Howard A Treesong wrote:
GW finally did it. They took the Tau and totally failed to make it look like anything but an anime inspired force by sticking a huge Gundam style robot in the middle of it. Nothing creative about that at all.

Oh how I wish your Gundam comparison was even more accurate.



I would take even an exercise in OTT design like the admittedly awesome Seravee over the Riptide any day.

You literally could use that instead of a riptide if you wanted. There's nothing stopping you anymore, what with GW getting rid of gaming space in their own stores, not running official tournaments anymore, and pulling prize support from events, there's really no one to enforce GW's "GW-only" rule.

I for one have very little intention to buy the new Tau models simply on grounds of cost.

I shall reserve final judgement until I can see them "in the flesh".

I would have been all over an Orca gunship, but the flyer presented is ho-hum -- could perhaps be converted but I could just use some other model as I shall for the big mecha and the Broadsides.

 Sidstyler wrote:

 SonicPara wrote:

 Howard A Treesong wrote:
GW finally did it. They took the Tau and totally failed to make it look like anything but an anime inspired force by sticking a huge Gundam style robot in the middle of it. Nothing creative about that at all.

Oh how I wish your Gundam comparison was even more accurate.



I would take even an exercise in OTT design like the admittedly awesome Seravee over the Riptide any day.

You literally could use that instead of a riptide if you wanted. There's nothing stopping you anymore, what with GW getting rid of gaming space in their own stores, not running official tournaments anymore, and pulling prize support from events, there's really no one to enforce GW's "GW-only" rule.

I'm personally going to run Mode-Lock Armslaves as counts-as Broadsides until I can decide whether I like the new rules enough to bite the bullet on the models. (My Tau army currently uses dual Railheads.)

Mode Lock Gernsback for me. I got 12 of them super cheap on sale from Hobby Link Japan.

I have a 1/72 scale Valkyrie Veritech I can use for a Riptide mecha.

Hmm the new flyer is unique.. I'm thinking Flip the Tail upside down move the wings back to the middle and put the engines on the upper back part of the fuselage and now we have a Bastard child of these to

I'm liking most of it, will be good conversion fodder at the least... really, really disappointed they didn't update the crisis suits though, shame.

I certainly hope there are still wave 2's in the cards for some... no Greater Daemons and nothing for kroot would be sad :(

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 Archonate wrote:
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Personally, I believe that any crappy looking model can be made extraordinary with the right paint job. Even conversion doesn't need to exceed minimal.

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That is one of the best looking models I've seen!

 Jayden63 wrote:

 Tuska wrote:

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 Jayden63 wrote:
During one of the rumor posted the Riptide is Jump Infantry. Which pretty much gives it Crisis suit level of movement minus 1". (since 2d6 averages 7" for the most part)

Crisis Suit - 6" + shooting phase + 2D6 assault move.
Riptide. 12" movement + Shooting phase + no assault move.

Unless you want to get into assault in which case the Riptide can actually assault further. I don't think that there is any reason to think of it as the slow and pondering robot.

Well, the good thing about Suits was that you can jump out of cover, shoot and then jump back behind the cover, this means that Suits are actually more maneuverable than the Riptide and whilst the Riptide may be too big to hide it behind cover, Tau are all about being able to move swiftly to stop the enemy from Assaulting by keeping them at Arm's length, it doesn't seem like this would be as effective at doing it.

Yeah, but once you go that big, you know your getting shot. So hopefully the Riptides stats show to that. T6/7 with 4-5 wounds with 2+ save. Something designed to take hits and keep going. It may not need JSJ because this suit is meant to be seen. Unlike this guy...

Wonder if the Riptide will get a special Crying Baby upgrade for Apocalypse and Battlefleet Gothic.

^^^^^shudders^^^^^

If anyone is interested in speculating on the pics themselves rather than what some stranger thinks if the pics, this post is for you!

The Riptide might have hit and run--the fins on its key packs look nearly identical to the vectored jets included with one of the forgeolworld battle suit commanders. That's assuming vectored jets are still in the codex, of course.

TAU Pics

You're a little late to the party, man.

I'd like the flyer a lot more if it didn't have those long bars connecting the wings to the tail (the ones parallel to the main hull) and the missile turret wasn't plonked on top spoiling the shape of the hull. I don't think it'd be too hard to alter those parts with a little work. I'd probably leave the bars off (hopefully any sign of their being left off, if they're separate pieces, or cut away otherwise, could be covered with plasticard) and put missiles under the wings. As for the hole where the launcher would normally go, I would try (depending on its size, obviously) to cover that with something like the top of a drone or maybe even the hatch off a Rhino (a mate gave me a huge bag of several years' worth of Space Marine bits so I am now the owner of loads of Rhino hatches).

I have to say, I'm quite liking the look of these models. DA and Daemons were disappointing, but the new Tau flyers defiantly seem interesting.

Let's hope their codex doesn't fall victim to the random chart disaster. Oh wait, it's cinematic!

Well, GW can't please all of the people all of the time.

It's a bit of a shame that the best use for a £40 model is to be chopped up and converted.

Why oh why is there no Orca model? It's an effing awesome vehicle that fits the aesthetic and the background and could be upgraded into various different versions.

Missed opportunity, GW!!

Puscifer wrote:
Something just clicked...

Most, if not all, battleforces have at least two troops choices.

So...

Which of those Tau Battleforces is the other Troops choice?

Probably expect you to split the FWs into two squads of 6.

Although moving Stealth suits to Troops would make them see more use and explain their rumored stealth nerf.

Remember they were your starting squads in Dawn of War Dark Crusade.

Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
From my experience, EVERY SINGLE TIME new model pics get leaked here people bash them like they are the ugliest thing GW has produced.
Every. Single. Time. No exceptions.
And then once the models are the bashers are some of the first people to buy them

Where have you been during the Dark Eldar release?
BTW I disliked Storm Raven, Storm talon, WoC, Daemon and most DA models when first shown and still dislike them. Seems some people can form a consistent opinion from low res pics. Was a cheap half year for me.

I will get the Pathfinders and even try to convert a flyer, but will most certainly use a barracuda instead.

The Riptide looks amazing, I'll be buying that and the codex day one. Would like to see the new Broadside up close too.

Any pics of the Codex cover yet?

 erewego86 wrote:
If anyone is interested in speculating on the pics themselves rather than what some stranger thinks if the pics, this post is for you!

The Riptide might have hit and run--the fins on its key packs look nearly identical to the vectored jets included with one of the forgeolworld battle suit commanders. That's assuming vectored jets are still in the codex, of course.

Those big bits on the shoulder pads look like some of the shoulder mounted weapons from Super Robot Wars OG. I wonder if they're missle pods or some kind of ion gun.

 Bewareofthephil wrote:
The Riptide looks amazing, I'll be buying that and the codex day one. Would like to see the new Broadside up close too.

Any pics of the Codex cover yet?

If you look at the flash glare on the rightside of the centerfold covers up most of him. he is Slightly larger than crisis suits. Sort of looks like this but with 2 shorter railguns side by side and bulker body

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Why oh why is there no Orca model? It's an effing awesome vehicle that fits the aesthetic and the background and could be upgraded into various different versions.

Because it's a superheavy vehicle and the model is way too big for normal 40k.

RogueRegault wrote:

Puscifer wrote:
Something just clicked...

Most, if not all, battleforces have at least two troops choices.

So...

Which of those Tau Battleforces is the other Troops choice?

Probably expect you to split the FWs into two squads of 6.

Although moving Stealth suits to Troops would make them see more use and explain their rumored stealth nerf.

Remember they were your starting squads in Dawn of War Dark Crusade.

Honestly I hope so. They aren't updating the kits and I doubt they're getting more weapon options. I'd love to to take a couple cheap stealth suit squads to try and score down field objectives.


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What's so great about the Orca anyways? I see a few people say how great it is, but I've never seen it's purpose.

 chris13f wrote:
TAU Pics

Did you even attempt to read thread? Seriously, the last 10 or so pages have been about these...

 Peregrine wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Why oh why is there no Orca model? It's an effing awesome vehicle that fits the aesthetic and the background and could be upgraded into various different versions.

Because it's a superheavy vehicle and the model is way too big for normal 40k.

They could have done a smaller version.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I might like that.
Also, I like the flyer. I just want railguns on it :(

Well, here's a Riptide with a Railgun...

If Stealth suits become troops that'll be awesome. Fully suited army, yay!

I'm hoping the new Pathfinders go together similarly to the Fire Warriors, so that kitbashing is easy to do.

 taudau wrote:


Sunshark/Razorshark - Competent execution, but there's not much to execute. Instead of borrowing inspiration from the existing Tau fliers which follow a well-designed aesthetic, we get this rubbish. I think the thing that bothers me most are the wings. Nothing else in the Tau army has wings like that. No thanks.

Actually, the new flyers look VERY MUCH like tau flying vehicles....check out all of the TAU BFG ships...it matches very well.

Note: personally, I prefer the barracuda, and am very pissed that GW did not include FW models in the dex. But that is another thread...

I think the new models will be fine, as a person who actually plays tau (as opposed to having shelved them years ago) I am very excited for the new dex.

Am I happy about there not being rumors of FW models? No, I do not like that.
Am I happy about the new models we did get to see? Sure, new stuff. Not amazing, but not bad either.
Am I happy about the new rules? Dunno, have not read the actual codex and played any games yet.

davethepak wrote:

 taudau wrote:


Sunshark/Razorshark - Competent execution, but there's not much to execute. Instead of borrowing inspiration from the existing Tau fliers which follow a well-designed aesthetic, we get this rubbish. I think the thing that bothers me most are the wings. Nothing else in the Tau army has wings like that. No thanks.

Actually, the new flyers look VERY MUCH like tau flying vehicles....check out all of the TAU BFG ships...it matches very well.

They look to me like someone decided to copy the DZC Neptune Dropship. They have eerily similar silhouettes to me.

i love this, riptide suit yes please, new sunshark bomber oh yeah!! as for the pathfinders and new broadside i need hd pics so i can see how cool they are now and the battlesiuts xv8's i'm happy they kept the old ones but i would have liked to see several boxes of the different types of suits. anyway now i need the rules but those models i'm loving, sorry wifey i have to spend des moneys

That DZC dropship looks more like the Hunter Killer from the Terminator series of films. The new Tau flyer looks like it is designed to carry battle suits underneath. Can it do this?

I would have love to have seen some ally inspired vehicles in this release. Perhaps a more primative species using tracked vehicles upgraded with Tau tech.