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The Salamander is a really great model.

the Fist is....IMO....really not.

Too much going on and not in a good way,

Why does the Salamanders video say "THINGS ARE HOTTING UP!"

Hotting? Things are HOTTING up? Really?

Why are people calling it "The Salamander" when it's clearly Vulkan?

But the surprise that Jeremy Beadle was a member of the Imperial Fists is what I'm really taking away from this article.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

We haven't seen unique upgrades for normal squads, just 'relics' that a Squad Leader can take.

The one that came out last winter. It has a piece that is straight up the Signum Array like what is on Tor's back. I would love to see it as Special Issue Wargear, at the very least.

You mean the upgrade frame that they never released because of the upside down Fist emblem?

Not upside down, inverted.

But yes, hopefully they remade the models and got that right.

Wonder if the Salamanders sprue will have thunderhammers. I'm pretty darn excited will shift my main army from Custodes to the new Salamanders.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Why are people calling it "The Salamander" when it's clearly Vulkan?

But the surprise that Jeremy Beadle was a member of the Imperial Fists is what I'm really taking away from this article.

It’s not Vulkan, it’s a new character who’s name I and clearly others haven’t learnt yet.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Why are people calling it "The Salamander" when it's clearly Vulkan?

It's not Vulcan man they give his name at the start of the video."Adrax Agatone" (as leaked by other sources with the datasheets).

But the surprise that Jeremy Beadle was a member of the Imperial Fists is what I'm really taking away from this article.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Why does the Salamanders video say "THINGS ARE HOTTING UP!"

Hotting? Things are HOTTING up? Really?

That’s a idiom/saying/whatever you call it.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
Why are people calling it "The Salamander" when it's clearly Vulkan?

It's not Vulcan man they give his name at the start of the video."Adrax Agatone" (as leaked by other sources with the datasheets).

Jesus. So it isn't enough to conceptually Primarisise an existing character, they give it a different name and rules to really make sure people buy it.

I don't watch the videos as the amount of cheese in them might make me lactose intolerant.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Why does the Salamanders video say "THINGS ARE HOTTING UP!"

Hotting? Things are HOTTING up? Really?

It is a Brit term of speech, apparently

boundless08 wrote:I'm very happy with this Salamander. More so the fact I will finally have rules for my converted Primaris Captain, but I'll have to give him a flamer now...

Spoiler:

Nice Salamander you've got there. I'm finishing a Flesh Tearer Primaris right now and I gave him a cloak and shoulder pad wrappings made from the Dark Elves Corsair kit, to represent the Megafaune they're hunting for sport (and the cold ones and Carnosaur I'm totally equiping with guns and rockets and let my nephews play Flesh Tearers Dino Riders with ). I originally planned to use an Aggressor head, but I like yours better. I've seen it before can't place it right now, what kit is that from?


The Salamander from GW looks good. Not OMG-must-have, but good. If I had any Primaris left for another Kill Team I'd do Salamanders.

The IF dude...no. Not only the Duke Nukem face, but the pose is meh and the weapons look kinda rough. Pass.

Now do a bigger Pedro Kantor, please. Or not, I converted a dude to be a possible "younger Kantor" stand-in and like him a lot, so it's not THAT important.

Edit: Derp, it's the Minimarine gasmask head, of course. I think I don't have one of those, though. Bummer.

Yeah, that Imperial Fist model looks really stupid. Even worse than the artwork made it out to be.

 Azreal13 wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
Why are people calling it "The Salamander" when it's clearly Vulkan?

It's not Vulcan man they give his name at the start of the video."Adrax Agatone" (as leaked by other sources with the datasheets).

Jesus. So it isn't enough to conceptually Primarisise an existing character, they give it a different name and rules to really make sure people buy it.

I don't watch the videos as the amount of cheese in them might make me lactose intolerant.

Captain Agatone is an established character in Salamander BL novels.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Why does the Salamanders video say "THINGS ARE HOTTING UP!"

Hotting? Things are HOTTING up? Really?

That’s a idiom/saying/whatever you call it.

Do you guys not call it Heating?

Things are heating up.

Really like the Salamander. The fist is alright.

Details I noticed and like:
-Adrax's shin plate are solid, including the knees. We haven't seen this for Primaris.
-His hammer is rounded, which gives it a more 'artisan" look compared to the blocky, unrefined look of the square hammers

-Tor is in Gravis Armour

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shade1313 wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
Why are people calling it "The Salamander" when it's clearly Vulkan?

It's not Vulcan man they give his name at the start of the video."Adrax Agatone" (as leaked by other sources with the datasheets).

Jesus. So it isn't enough to conceptually Primarisise an existing character, they give it a different name and rules to really make sure people buy it.

I don't watch the videos as the amount of cheese in them might make me lactose intolerant.

Captain Agatone is an established character in Salamander BL novels.

Which doesn't much alter the fact that his miniature looks remarkably like you might expect a Primarisised Vulkan to look, except with a different name and different rules, to make sure people buy it.

I really think that if that Imperial fist one would had something bigger then puny Grav gun mounted on its shoulder, it would be much better looking.

And helmet. Helmet is a must.

 Azreal13 wrote:

Which doesn't much alter the fact that his miniature looks remarkably like you might expect a Primarisised Vulkan to look, except with a different name and different rules, to make sure people buy it.

I literally do not understand what you're complaining about.

 Azreal13 wrote:

shade1313 wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
Why are people calling it "The Salamander" when it's clearly Vulkan?

It's not Vulcan man they give his name at the start of the video."Adrax Agatone" (as leaked by other sources with the datasheets).

Jesus. So it isn't enough to conceptually Primarisise an existing character, they give it a different name and rules to really make sure people buy it.

I don't watch the videos as the amount of cheese in them might make me lactose intolerant.

Captain Agatone is an established character in Salamander BL novels.

Which doesn't much alter the fact that his miniature looks remarkably like you might expect a Primarisised Vulkan to look, except with a different name and different rules, to make sure people buy it.

And completely different equipment.

I'm not coming complaining about anything, I have no dog in the fight and I would never have bought the model in any guise.

But it isn't a hard concept to follow is it? Rather than reinevent an existing model, like they did with Calgar, they essentially resculpted them but gave them an arbitrary alternative name. So we don't have Vulkan and Lysander we have not Vulkan and not Lysander.


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And completely different equipment.

Malibu Stacey would have got the new hat regardles.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Why does the Salamanders video say "THINGS ARE HOTTING UP!"

Hotting? Things are HOTTING up? Really?

That’s a idiom/saying/whatever you call it.

Do you guys not call it Heating?

Things are heating up.

We say both of course! To be as confounding as possible! https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/384556/hotting-up-vs-heating-up
I guess that's what happens when your language is a bastardised version of around 10 others and slang is thrown in too.

 Azreal13 wrote:

shade1313 wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
Why are people calling it "The Salamander" when it's clearly Vulkan?

It's not Vulcan man they give his name at the start of the video."Adrax Agatone" (as leaked by other sources with the datasheets).

Jesus. So it isn't enough to conceptually Primarisise an existing character, they give it a different name and rules to really make sure people buy it.

I don't watch the videos as the amount of cheese in them might make me lactose intolerant.

Captain Agatone is an established character in Salamander BL novels.

Which doesn't much alter the fact that his miniature looks remarkably like you might expect a Primarisised Vulkan to look, except with a different name and different rules, to make sure people buy it.

What?! Don't tell me you haven't heard of Captain Hotter McFlamer-Toastie?! Leader of the Sriracha Demons and saviour of Epsilon-Omega Prime 18? Destroyer of the dreaded Chaos Mild Lime Mayo Marines?! Ally to the Nandos Regiment?!

Sir you are uneducated.

 Azreal13 wrote:
I'm not coming complaining about anything, I have no dog in the fight and I would never have bought the model in any guise.

But it isn't a hard concept to follow is it? Rather than reinevent an existing model, like they did with Calgar, they essentially resculpted them but gave them an arbitrary alternative name. So we don't have Vulkan and Lysander we have not Vulkan and not Lysander.

So? Are they not allowed to make new special characters?

I mean personally I don't like special characters, I'd prefer generic ones that anyone could use, but whether the model is called Salamander Jake or Salamander Steve hardly matters.

 Crimson wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
I'm not coming complaining about anything, I have no dog in the fight and I would never have bought the model in any guise.

But it isn't a hard concept to follow is it? Rather than reinevent an existing model, like they did with Calgar, they essentially resculpted them but gave them an arbitrary alternative name. So we don't have Vulkan and Lysander we have not Vulkan and not Lysander.

So? Are they not allowed to make new special characters?

I mean personally I don't like special characters, I'd prefer generic ones that anyone could use, but whether the model is called Salamander Jake or Salamander Steve hardly matters.

The thing that stinks is that Garadon has some really neat rules I would like to make use of for my Crimson Fists. I just wish every Chapter Tactic from C:SM got a model. We are cool enough for our own tactic, but not our own new model? It is what it is, I guess.

 Crimson wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
I'm not coming complaining about anything, I have no dog in the fight and I would never have bought the model in any guise.

But it isn't a hard concept to follow is it? Rather than reinevent an existing model, like they did with Calgar, they essentially resculpted them but gave them an arbitrary alternative name. So we don't have Vulkan and Lysander we have not Vulkan and not Lysander.

So? Are they not allowed to make new special characters?

I mean personally I don't like special characters, I'd prefer generic ones that anyone could use, but whether the model is called Salamander Jake or Salamander Steve hardly matters.

Yes, but make them new not tepid rehashes of existing concepts.

The fact that the likes of Shrike and Calgar got full blooded resculpts whereas the Fists and Sallies got rebadged B-Listers just reeks of "focus group,' which is what I find objectionable.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
The thing that stinks is that Garadon has some really neat rules I would like to make use of for my Crimson Fists. I just wish every Chapter Tactic from C:SM got a model. We are cool enough for our own tactic, but not our own new model? It is what it is, I guess.

Yep. And it is even worse for custom chapters. I really like these models, but I really have no use for them as I can't even equip the generic characters similarly.

 Crimson wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
The thing that stinks is that Garadon has some really neat rules I would like to make use of for my Crimson Fists. I just wish every Chapter Tactic from C:SM got a model. We are cool enough for our own tactic, but not our own new model? It is what it is, I guess.

Yep. And it is even worse for custom chapters. I really like these models, but I really have no use for them as I can't even equip the generic characters similarly.

Exactly. I wish there was a Stratagem or something that let you put a First Founding Character in a Successor Chapter (they would be required to use the Inheritors of the Primarch Chapter Tactic). Have it give them their Warlord Trait too, just so it isn't a huge waste.

 Azreal13 wrote:


Yes, but make them new not tepid rehashes of existing concepts.

The fact that the likes of Shrike and Calgar got full blooded resculpts whereas the Fists and Sallies got rebadged B-Listers just reeks of "focus group,' which is what I find objectionable.

I still don't get what the problem is. What does it matter what the character is called or whether he has a hammer or a spear? One could argue that making them new characters is better, as now people can use their old minimarine characters alongside with these new characters. You can't do that with the updated ones.

 Azreal13 wrote:

Yes, but make them new not tepid rehashes of existing concepts.

The fact that the likes of Shrike and Calgar got full blooded resculpts whereas the Fists and Sallies got rebadged B-Listers just reeks of "focus group,' which is what I find objectionable.

What I find objectionable is rewriting history to pretend that Shrike was popular.

It is strange the way these things are going, but hey at least Salamanders are keeping Vulkan.

Garadon is rocking a Power Brass Knuckles Fist and that's something that just tickles me. How hard you think it would be to chop it off for a different model?