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Sarouan wrote:
Honestly, the pre-recorded interview of Stu Black was interesting to listen to, giving a few more hints on how the new codex works and what the sisters will have as tools on the battlefield.

Yeah, it was probably the most informative part of the show.

 zedmeister wrote:


as it should be. There’s a good chance that the Boxed Games and the mystery reveal will steal the show especially if it turns out to be BFG or a new heresy version

Boxed games will be certainly more one-shot boardgames no one really cares about.

The mystery is mystery but well...I wouldn't be surprised if they just put a trailer of a logo or something.

New Sisters of Battle are quite big. Bigger than modern 40k normal humans like genestealer cultists or admech skitarii.

i don't know why exactly is that, but it is.

Crispy78 wrote:
So... If you're a really good gun-nun, you now get to pilot a mech. As opposed to if you're a really naughty gun-nun, where you get to... pilot a mech...

Yeah, but the naughty gun nun mech inflicts horrendous pain all the while
You are using it. Because that really gets the best results out of a front line combat unit...

I expected nothing and I'm still let down.

I knew it was going to be either about Orks or SoB. I'm not dissappointed because I don't play SoB (or Orks, for that matter). I'm dissappointed simply because what was shown today had already been shown weeks ago.

At least the next 40K preview will probably show more minis for Orks because GW showed already a lot less. Hurray.

I don't know. I hoped that at least GW would show a short teaser (ala Be'lakor) of something completely different right at the end of this preview.

Sorry to say this, but I think these mech suits are awful.

Maybe I am showing my age, but they look too advanced for the Imperiumof Man, or at least the Imperium of Man I used to know.

The Morvenn Vahl model looks like it comes from Warmachines The Protectorate of Menoth.

I’m disappointed that’s all there is.
But I will say, everyone is harking on like these are the previews we’ve had all year.
They’re more about the interviews (and talks that would come with in the physical fest), with a few smatterings of models.
I mean, I’m here just to see the goodies, but just saying it’s maybe more in line with Warhammer fest than the regular previews we’ve benn getting,

I can't help but think that this would have been better received if it had been one day of SoB + Orks. Maybe Orks are getting a LOT of new stuff.

Definitely don't need more campaign books before everyone has a 9th edition codex.

The addition of all the filigree and robe does improve the SoB warsuits considerably IMO though.

Sarouan wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:


as it should be. There’s a good chance that the Boxed Games and the mystery reveal will steal the show especially if it turns out to be BFG or a new heresy version

Boxed games will be certainly more one-shot boardgames no one really cares about.

The mystery is mystery but well...I wouldn't be surprised if they just put a trailer of a logo or something.

We already know Boxed Games is Necromunda and Underworlds. Maybe we will get one or two of the other games too.
A single thing for BB or AT/AI or whatever..

 Kanluwen wrote:
Bonus points that it literally has stuff from Fires of Cyraxus!

Why do you have to hurt me? :(

Pickled_egg wrote:
Open question to Games Workshop.
Are 90% of your miniature designers working on Age of Sigmar?

Age of Sigmar yesterday got; 4 fantastic vampire lords on amazing looking vignettes, new dire wolves, vampire hunters, new Sylvaneth model, an amazing god of destruction. All this hot on the heels of the new Slannesh models, Lord Kroak and tons more besides.

What did the 40k players get in comparison?
A gouge book that you need to buy for £40 for 3 pages of rules.
And 2 Sisters of battle models, everything else we have seen months ago.

What really rubs salt into the wound is we are getting campaign books when half the factions don't even have a codex yet, why?

Drukhari got zero new models.

About time you started giving the 40k player base something new.

I already know that Fridays "big reveals" is going to be the beastsnagga kits they already revealed on warhammer community articles.

If you've got nothing to show, don't hype it up, you only shoot yourself in the foot.

I don't think it's necessarily 90% of the miniature designers, I just think all of the good one ones get sent over there. I'm not sure if that's a desire thing, as AoS tends to give designers a lot more freedom in what kind of things they can make (giant monster has a lot more range than giant tank), or just because GW is trying to grow AoS or what, but it really shows. I haven't been inspired by a 40k model in years, but I feel AoS has pretty reliably turning out fantastic things left and right.

The new Sisters suits encompass what people hate about the Dreadknights and make it even worse.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
The new Sisters suits encompass what people hate about the Dreadknights and make it even worse.

Personally, I think they’re night and day better than the Dreadknight.

All they had to do to make this a worthy preview in itself was to detail the road map of the next 6 codex's after AdMech, no need for dates etc, just detail what they are and in what order, give people an inkling of when they will get their codex.

The saving grace on Friday maybe guard though, plastic guard are coming at some point, it could be right at the end of the ork stuff.

The sister suits are fine, but as someone said, they look like Menoth units...

Crispy78 wrote:
So... If you're a really good gun-nun, you now get to pilot a mech. As opposed to if you're a really naughty gun-nun, where you get to... pilot a mech...

Inquisitor Yakov Smirnoff says:

"In penitent engine, mech pilots you!"

 Sabotage! wrote:

Pickled_egg wrote:
Open question to Games Workshop.
Are 90% of your miniature designers working on Age of Sigmar?

Age of Sigmar yesterday got; 4 fantastic vampire lords on amazing looking vignettes, new dire wolves, vampire hunters, new Sylvaneth model, an amazing god of destruction. All this hot on the heels of the new Slannesh models, Lord Kroak and tons more besides.

What did the 40k players get in comparison?
A gouge book that you need to buy for £40 for 3 pages of rules.
And 2 Sisters of battle models, everything else we have seen months ago.

What really rubs salt into the wound is we are getting campaign books when half the factions don't even have a codex yet, why?

Drukhari got zero new models.

About time you started giving the 40k player base something new.

I already know that Fridays "big reveals" is going to be the beastsnagga kits they already revealed on warhammer community articles.

If you've got nothing to show, don't hype it up, you only shoot yourself in the foot.

I don't think it's necessarily 90% of the miniature designers, I just think all of the good one ones get sent over there. I'm not sure if that's a desire thing, as AoS tends to give designers a lot more freedom in what kind of things they can make (giant monster has a lot more range than giant tank), or just because GW is trying to grow AoS or what, but it really shows. I haven't been inspired by a 40k model in years, but I feel AoS has pretty reliably turning out fantastic things left and right.

One of the french designer (the one who designed Mortarion for 40K) already said the designers are working for both AoS and 40K. Every single one of them.

I suspect it has more to do with the will of GW to develop AoS since they killed Battle. They can create whatever the hell they want because AoS universe is in its infancy (on top of being sorta "high fantasy") while 40K has an already heavily established universe AND design for every faction.

Also, 40K almost prints money on its own. That helps too.

Weren’t the shield sisters also new?
Everyone keeps saying just two models, did I miss those..?

 ImAGeek wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
The new Sisters suits encompass what people hate about the Dreadknights and make it even worse.

Personally, I think they’re night and day better than the Dreadknight.

Oh completely agree with that. But you know, when someone wants to hate something, they'll always find excuses and false comparisons.

Danny76 wrote:
Weren’t the shield sisters also new?
Everyone keeps saying just two models, did I miss those..?

They were revealed before but with helms and halberds.

Danny76 wrote:
Weren’t the shield sisters also new?
Everyone keeps saying just two models, did I miss those..?

The celestian sacresancts were already revealed in a previous Warhammer Community article. They just showed the variant with halberds, but the article said they could be equiped with maces too. Now we saw them equiped with maces, but that doesn't make them really new.

 Hollow wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
You'd think a High Lord would know to wear her damn helmet in battle.

She has a helmet option.

Typical toxic complainer. Doesn't even know what they are complaining about.

There's only one person in that quote chain being toxic, Hollow, and the Kid ain't it.

tneva82 wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
excactly how long is he intending to ramble on on what we allready know?

You do know right forum users aren't target group? The majority who don't folllw forums and leaks are.

And if we were dealing with stuff that was leaked, you might have a point - but in terms of the SoB content, only two new models (and the alt-build for a unit) were shown that hasn't already been shown by GW themselves...

The campaign book and scenery box are undubitably news, however = might pick up that box, depending on the price.

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
Well this was a really poor use of my time. And on my birthday, to boot.

Well, happy birthday - and I hope the rest of the day was more to your liking.

 Dendarien wrote:
100% this. GW just has no ability to set expectations with the fans when it comes to these streams.

I think you've hit the nail on the head here - they're getting a bit better, by (mostly) clearly signalling in advance which games are getting covered now, but not so much the scope of them.

Yesterday's AOS one showed off a reasonable number of new models, even if only for one army book (and a campaign book), while this one only showed two new models - despite the tagline for Friday's 40K preview being "Seriously, we have a lot". That now rings less true because of how much of their already-previewed content they've shown today.

Weds, Thurs & Sat may be worthy of their streams, though that might be because I'm less clear on how much we already know about upcoming Black Library and Boxed Games releases, but there we go.

On the upside? No new SM models previewed today - that's got to make someone on Dakka happy, right?

tneva82 wrote:
Well seeing dakkadakka is full of complain and whining if preview isn't at least 100 new kits per faction and new edition gw can't satisfy them.

Post preview dakkadakka whining is best part of previews. Keep it up! Whine! Whine! We want more whine!

Dude, when you're hyping the week up as a big event - and claiming you have "a lot" of stuff to show for one system, so you need two shows for it - a negative reaction to only seeing two new things for a faction (plus a book) is not unreasonable.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm disappointed there wasn't any discussion of the Mechanicus. The previews we've gotten have been absolute crap, focused on basically just weapon changes. I don't need to know the weapon rules, I want to know how the damn Marshal works. I want to know how Canticles are going to function.

We'd normally see that once the pre-pre-order article is released, wouldn't we? If Sunday confirms that, then we'll see that sort of content next week.

Unlike the Death Guard, it seems they've remembered to hold back WHC content to fit with the pre-order schedule this time.

Pickled_egg wrote:
Drukhari got zero new models.

They got one - a resculpt in a new material still counts.

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
All they had to do to make this a worthy preview in itself was to detail the road map of the next 6 codex's after AdMech, no need for dates etc, just detail what they are and in what order, give people an inkling of when they will get their codex.

You're not wrong - they could've probably mentioned the pre-order date for AdMech without too much of an issue, then confirmed the next three without an issue (SoB, Orks, ???), even if they didn't confirm the release months.

Maybe we'll see that on Friday.

+ + +

I will say I'm glad I'm just hopping on WHC to read the article for these - don't think I want to deal with Twitch chat for long enough to watch these live

You just know that the Beastsnagga rules supplement is going to be in Charadon book 3 don't you?

It's nailed on, £40 day one Ork player DLC....

 Dysartes wrote:

 Hollow wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
You'd think a High Lord would know to wear her damn helmet in battle.

She has a helmet option.

Typical toxic complainer. Doesn't even know what they are complaining about.

There's only one person in that quote chain being toxic, Hollow, and the Kid ain't it.

Still, she brought her helmet with her. The Kid just stopped at the first pictures and didn't bother to look at the options of the kit showed in the video.

Not really toxic material, but definitely someone who didn't try to look further before complaining.

Sarouan wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
Weren’t the shield sisters also new?
Everyone keeps saying just two models, did I miss those..?

The celestian sacresancts were already revealed in a previous Warhammer Community article. They just showed the variant with halberds, but the article said they could be equiped with maces too. Now we saw them equiped with maces, but that doesn't make them really new.

They only showed one before as well, not the whole unit.

Would be hilarious if tomorrow the black Lib stream has more new models than today

Oh well, they can't all be winners. Monday was at least decent and maybe the next two evenings might bear fruit.

Black Library isn't usually my bag but rather enjoy listening to the audio drama extracts on the BL site...

So they had too much 40k that it needed 2 days to cover it all. Then they start off by casually recap the AoS day for a while. Then when they have nothing much more to say they are still "ahead of schedule" and go on with a video to get things rolling. And they take time to recap all the Sisters stuff we've already seen and talk about them.

I remember seeing the tank on screen before falling asleep. Reading comments it seems I missed the terrain box (of not-new models) and that's it?

Color me disappointing. I would have expected some of the rumor engine stuff showing up. At least there's another day to wish some something actually new.

Sarouan wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
The new Sisters suits encompass what people hate about the Dreadknights and make it even worse.

Personally, I think they’re night and day better than the Dreadknight.

Oh completely agree with that. But you know, when someone wants to hate something, they'll always find excuses and false comparisons.

Where the feth is the false comparison? It's literally the same concept...

 Skywave wrote:
So they had too much 40k that it needed 2 days to cover it all. Then they start off by casually recap the AoS day for a while. Then when they have nothing much more to say they are still "ahead of schedule" and go on with a video to get things rolling. And they take time to recap all the Sisters stuff we've already seen and talk about them.

I remember seeing the tank on screen before falling asleep. Reading comments it seems I missed the terrain box (of not-new models) and that's it?

Color me disappointing. I would have expected some of the rumor engine stuff showing up. At least there's another day to wish some something actually new.

Even in the AoS stream they were showing off models we'd seen two-three weeks ago.