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Our PreOrders for the Nephilim book for screwed up so we didn’t get any on release day, and have never been able to get any on a restock order. With yet another restock coming in and no Nephilim, I checked their webstore to see if it was still out of stock there as well and I can’t even find the listing for it. Links online lead to a 404. Was Nephilim really a one and done release with no restock?

 
   
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Yep. All the Warzones, campaign books and whatever are.
Its a pretty contemptible release model, but the only way it'll stop is if people stop falling for it.

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You know, I really wish Games Workshop would offer some kind of rules content free with a one year subscription to warhammer plus...

Would be a really smart move for them. Sustained revenue for the company and a happier player base.

   
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 AduroT wrote:
Our PreOrders for the Nephilim book for screwed up so we didn’t get any on release day, and have never been able to get any on a restock order. With yet another restock coming in and no Nephilim, I checked their webstore to see if it was still out of stock there as well and I can’t even find the listing for it. Links online lead to a 404. Was Nephilim really a one and done release with no restock?


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 AduroT wrote:
Is Nephilim already going away?
Hopefully.

Even better: Let's hope this "Seasons" bull gak GW is trying goes away completely.


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The competitive Hurr Durrers like that, so, it will stay. They even started the same for AoS.

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It becomes obsolete after 6 months doesn't it? So what's the issue? Just wait it out.


 
   
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It just seems extra dumb to make a book you’re “supposed” to have for tournaments and only make it in a limited amount.

 
   
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 Dekskull wrote:
You know, I really wish Games Workshop would offer some kind of rules content free with a one year subscription to warhammer plus...

Would be a really smart move for them. Sustained revenue for the company and a happier player base.



Core Rules are free! LoL

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 AduroT wrote:
It just seems extra dumb to make a book you’re “supposed” to have for tournaments and only make it in a limited amount.

It depends why you're doing it, of course. If you're trying to support tournaments, sure, its dumb. If you're trying to churn and burn limited production runs for easy cash, then its quite effective. And its been really obvious since Psychic Awakening that they've been doing the latter. Its 10? 12? books along the pattern at this point (ignore various crusade only and what have you add-on books).

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The first one for AoS lasted a year before getting replaced, and that felt right. The book was also spiral bound and holy crap I will gladly spend the premium for that it is SO convenient. We'll see how long the current season goes for, if they try to do 6 month seasons for AoS... well I don't think the player base will be as hospitable to the idea.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
The first one for AoS lasted a year before getting replaced, and that felt right. The book was also spiral bound and holy crap I will gladly spend the premium for that it is SO convenient. We'll see how long the current season goes for, if they try to do 6 month seasons for AoS... well I don't think the player base will be as hospitable to the idea.

The same was true for 40k. The first GT mission pack was spiral bound and lasted a year. They only went to 6-month seasons with the latest one. The 40k community were pretty annoyed by the idea...and yet it seems like it didn't really affect GW's bottom line. I can't see AoS being any different.
   
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How long ago was Nephilim released, anyway?

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 Dysartes wrote:
How long ago was Nephilim released, anyway?


Mid June.

 
   
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 AduroT wrote:
It just seems extra dumb to make a book you’re “supposed” to have for tournaments and only make it in a limited amount.
Sounds exactly like what GW would do though.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 AduroT wrote:
It just seems extra dumb to make a book you’re “supposed” to have for tournaments and only make it in a limited amount.
Sounds exactly like what GW would do though.


Not trying to excuse it, but I can see why they'd short it so that they're not sitting on a bunch of worthless product after the planned 6 month lifespan.

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Slipspace wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
The first one for AoS lasted a year before getting replaced, and that felt right. The book was also spiral bound and holy crap I will gladly spend the premium for that it is SO convenient. We'll see how long the current season goes for, if they try to do 6 month seasons for AoS... well I don't think the player base will be as hospitable to the idea.

The same was true for 40k. The first GT mission pack was spiral bound and lasted a year. They only went to 6-month seasons with the latest one. The 40k community were pretty annoyed by the idea...and yet it seems like it didn't really affect GW's bottom line. I can't see AoS being any different.
The new one is also spiral bound with a good amount of 'bonus' content.

Probably worth noting the AoS app is very functional and convenient to use, so the value of the digital unlock is not insignificant.

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 Blndmage wrote:
 Dekskull wrote:
You know, I really wish Games Workshop would offer some kind of rules content free with a one year subscription to warhammer plus...

Would be a really smart move for them. Sustained revenue for the company and a happier player base.



Core Rules are free! LoL


I think they mean bundle rules access with Warhammer+ so if you pay for the app you don't need to buy a codex.
   
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Slipspace wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
The first one for AoS lasted a year before getting replaced, and that felt right. The book was also spiral bound and holy crap I will gladly spend the premium for that it is SO convenient. We'll see how long the current season goes for, if they try to do 6 month seasons for AoS... well I don't think the player base will be as hospitable to the idea.

The same was true for 40k. The first GT mission pack was spiral bound and lasted a year. They only went to 6-month seasons with the latest one. The 40k community were pretty annoyed by the idea...and yet it seems like it didn't really affect GW's bottom line. I can't see AoS being any different.

I've not seen AoS players have the same amount of churn and burn with their books. It's being done to 40k players exclusively, along with other terrible moves like "kit = rules", because a lot of the crowd just accepts it and spends the money.
   
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 xeen wrote:
The tempest deck is more fun.

Also seems to have a stock issue.
   
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EviscerationPlague wrote:
Slipspace wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
The first one for AoS lasted a year before getting replaced, and that felt right. The book was also spiral bound and holy crap I will gladly spend the premium for that it is SO convenient. We'll see how long the current season goes for, if they try to do 6 month seasons for AoS... well I don't think the player base will be as hospitable to the idea.

The same was true for 40k. The first GT mission pack was spiral bound and lasted a year. They only went to 6-month seasons with the latest one. The 40k community were pretty annoyed by the idea...and yet it seems like it didn't really affect GW's bottom line. I can't see AoS being any different.

I've not seen AoS players have the same amount of churn and burn with their books. It's being done to 40k players exclusively, along with other terrible moves like "kit = rules", because a lot of the crowd just accepts it and spends the money.


Most of the AoS players I know just ignore these out of hand.
   
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 xeen wrote:
The tempest deck is more fun.


Similar theme, we use the Open War cards. Super fun ways to add variety, and automatically adjusts to armies of different sizes.

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AduroT wrote:Our PreOrders for the Nephilim book for screwed up so we didn’t get any on release day, and have never been able to get any on a restock order. With yet another restock coming in and no Nephilim, I checked their webstore to see if it was still out of stock there as well and I can’t even find the listing for it. Links online lead to a 404. Was Nephilim really a one and done release with no restock?


Yeah, the season should be ending pretty soon. Hopefully GW is better about producing the right amount of stock so it doesn't happen again. I'd be sure to put in an early pre order with LGS for sure though.

H.B.M.C. wrote:
 AduroT wrote:
Is Nephilim already going away?
Hopefully.

Even better: Let's hope this "Seasons" bull gak GW is trying goes away completely.



Since I almost exclusively play matched play, I really like the seasons. Missions getting shaken up some every 6 months is actually a lot of fun, and helps things from getting stale.

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 Sasori wrote:

Since I almost exclusively play matched play, I really like the seasons. Missions getting shaken up some every 6 months is actually a lot of fun, and helps things from getting stale.


You know that Pts + secondaries + virtually any mission printed regardless of its section title works perfectly fine, right?
Hell, you & those you play with can copy GWs lead & make up random rules changes concerning CP use etc....

You don't have to sit there waiting on GW to spoon feed you crap at $40 a pop to keep things fresh.
   
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ccs wrote:
 Sasori wrote:

Since I almost exclusively play matched play, I really like the seasons. Missions getting shaken up some every 6 months is actually a lot of fun, and helps things from getting stale.


You know that Pts + secondaries + virtually any mission printed regardless of its section title works perfectly fine, right?
Hell, you & those you play with can copy GWs lead & make up random rules changes concerning CP use etc....

You don't have to sit there waiting on GW to spoon feed you crap at $40 a pop to keep things fresh.


Some people don't have the time/energy to make their own rules. They buy the books so they can spend their time/energy actually playing the game.

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ccs wrote:
 Sasori wrote:

Since I almost exclusively play matched play, I really like the seasons. Missions getting shaken up some every 6 months is actually a lot of fun, and helps things from getting stale.


You know that Pts + secondaries + virtually any mission printed regardless of its section title works perfectly fine, right?
Hell, you & those you play with can copy GWs lead & make up random rules changes concerning CP use etc....

You don't have to sit there waiting on GW to spoon feed you crap at $40 a pop to keep things fresh.


There is really no reason to be a condescending ass here.

I tend to travel and play in events, so I don't really want to just make up random scenarios. It's also much easier to set up pick up games locally, since the wider community uses the latest ruleset for matched play.

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 Blndmage wrote:
Some people don't have the time/energy to make their own rules. They buy the books so they can spend their time/energy actually playing the game.

It is not even that. Often it is just if someone tries to push their own homebrew rules, the opponent will say no, and play against someone who plays the official rules. And then one can bend how ever one wants, and their fixed rules, new scenarios etc won't get used , because no one will play you. And building an entire army with the hope that someone will let you use non legal rules goes beyond what a normal player can invest in to w40k.

Kudos to those that can play what ever they want, but it starts to enter the area of in order to properly play GW games, you need a house, the income of a 30+ year old, a large group of friends, no or an accepting spouse etc. Not a very achivable thing for teens or young people playing GW games.

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Karol wrote:


Kudos to those that can play what ever they want, but it starts to enter the area of in order to properly play GW games, you need a house, the income of a 30+ year old, a large group of friends, no or an accepting spouse etc. Not a very achivable thing for teens or young people playing GW games.


As a 40yr old, it's not achievable for most of us. Don't forget disabled people, we usually can't afford the whole Matched Play thing.

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Karol wrote:


Kudos to those that can play what ever they want, but it starts to enter the area of in order to properly play GW games, you need a house, the income of a 30+ year old, a large group of friends, no or an accepting spouse etc. Not a very achivable thing for teens or young people playing GW games.


This will blow your mind.
The other day (sat afternoon) I'm at the shop. I'm setting up a table for a different game. Across the aisle & a bit behind me I hear two of the kids (both 15/16 yr olds) discussing the details of a custom scenario/mission.
●They don't own houses.
●They don't own infinite models.
●They don't have anything resembling the income of an adult.
●Niether has custom built an army to play custom rules.
●and I happen to know that outside the shop neither has a pool of 40k playing friends/family.
● Oh, and neither seemed worried that the other guy was trying to gain some sort of game advantage.

They were just two (not quite random) 40k players taking a few minutes to come up with a unique mission they thought would be fun.
And over the next 2 hours or so they did indeed seem to be having fun....

So if these two kids could take a few moments?
What stops the rest of you?
   
 
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