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I'll never complain about GW trying to create something new, even if they occasionally miss. This army isn't for me, but the last few pages have again proven that every new army is exactly what someone has been waiting for to jump into the game.

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 EnTyme wrote:
I'll never complain about GW trying to create something new, even if they occasionally miss. This army isn't for me, but the last few pages have again proven that every new army is exactly what someone has been waiting for to jump into the game.


My only complaint is that this new Bones army is very likely going to utterly scupper my plans to build a Slaves to Darkness army to compliment my Slaanesh force. The other will be if GW decides to give the Bone army a discount Christmas Battleforce boxed set!

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 Overread wrote:
 EnTyme wrote:
I'll never complain about GW trying to create something new, even if they occasionally miss. This army isn't for me, but the last few pages have again proven that every new army is exactly what someone has been waiting for to jump into the game.


My only complaint is that this new Bones army is very likely going to utterly scupper my plans to build a Slaves to Darkness army to compliment my Slaanesh force. The other will be if GW decides to give the Bone army a discount Christmas Battleforce boxed set!


I'm a big fan of the Death Aesthetic, so I'll happy build this to compliment my Nighthaunt. Might finally convince me to pick up a few Morghasts ahead of time.

I doubt there will be a Christmas bundle, I don't think they do those for brand new armies? The only thing I can imagine is the rumored Ogres vs Bonereapers similar to what we have seen in Looncurse, carrion empire, etc.


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Possibly some tidbits that aren’t widely known or might interest folks who were expecting Cities/Orruk news.

Warhammer Weekly Preview review:





Summary:

-Modular Rohan buildings(LotR scale , but could have a place in AoS due to modularity possibly)
-3 year plan of releases for Warcry
-not just Chaos monsters in the new supplement
-finally have a use for the Warqueen
-NOVA hotel is haunted!
-Mortarch has a unique Skarbrand style damage/attacks profile. If you attack him, scroll dude dies first, then bird guy, then standard bearer then Samurai Jack, then when they are dead, the Mortarch deigns to fight you and it gets bonkers.
-The Ossiarch Bonereaper range is bigger than what was shown.
-Not in preview article:
~Cities of Sigmar/Orruk tomes will not have faction specific Endless Spells or a terrain feature.
~Will have unique rules to counteract their absence.
~Both coming so soon that they didn’t bother with a preview at the seminar or in the article

At the end: expect an imminent announcement coming about how FW works, what it produces and how it will interact with GW going forward. Big changes. Attendees were told its a positive change and the seminar guys were excited about it, but who knows...



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So checking out the video again, I think the pictures they posted with the typical GW hyper lighting really doesn’t help these models at all, and that’s coming from someone who already really likes them. In the video, with proper lighting, they look even better, and the grins look a lot more like proper skulls and a lot creepier.
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 Arbitrator wrote:
The Mortarch looks good, his attendants are pretty decent.

The rank and file look awful. The three-headed guys look straight out of a World of Warcraft dungeon boss.

I wanted to like them, as I love the theme they're going for with what lore tidbits they've given us, but those models are a Big Yikes.



exactly my thought. And whats the deal with the stiffness of the knights???? Look like a 90's sculpt.

To be honest, the whole army look much better in the video than in the pics. Still, could have been such a cool release, but a few details completely ruins it

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I think it's the bone noses that really ruin the skill faces that have them.

It works on the samurai, as his face looks more like a samurai helmet mask anyway, but on the rank and file.infantry with more.skeletal.faces they just look goofy.

   
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Yeah, the one in that picture in the middle, with no nose and no smile, and a helmet, looks cool. The two with the grins and the noses just look silly to me.
   
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I hope that there are plenty of extra heads so people can use the style they prefer.

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I like the smiles the more I look at them. Gives me the same vibe as the dead dude smoking a pipe from the cover of Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark.

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I like them, but then when I look I don't see smiles beyond the sense that a generic skull is 'smiling' and I think that difference in perception makes a big difference in reaction.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I like them, but then when I look I don't see smiles beyond the sense that a generic skull is 'smiling' and I think that difference in perception makes a big difference in reaction.


There less smiling skull more The Joker tbh and it’s one of the many reasons they look a bit gak.

Your last point is especially laughable and comical, because not only the 7th ed Valkyrie shown dumber things (like being able to throw the troopers without parachutes out of its hatches, no harm done) - Irbis 
   
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The idea of crafting constructs out of bone, then infusing the end result with the souls of the dead is quite good, and a very Nagash take on what Sigmar does with the Stormcast.

However the models look like they just stepped out of He-man. Imagine if instead of these Saturday morning cartoon aesthetic we had nightmarish abominations crafted from several skeletons smushed together?

Several rib cages put together several spines at the end each with a vicious looking skull? That sort of thing, really go with the theme.

A car cry from these. Luckily my interest in AoS is zero, so my wallet can breath a sigh of relief.

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See I'd expect crude constructs of smashed together bones to be more of a Flesh Eaters approach. Nagash is scientific in his approach to most things and you can see that in the designs of the creatures and monsters he creates. There's a deahtly order to things. Vampires are quite the same - with the exception of ghouls and zombies, most of the created units are quite orderly and sensible in their construction.

Smashing stuff together is far more appropriate for some kind of twisted monstrosity that the crazed Flesh Eaters would unleash on to the battlefield. Of course in their warped mind it would likely be some kind of really smart steam tank when in actuality it would be a melded and melted mish mash of living tissue and screaming near-dead all bound together with twisted razor wire.

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So is there some Saturday morning cartoon drawn by H. R. Giger that I am not aware of? Because that is the only way people constantly making that reference would make sense.

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 Overread wrote:
See I'd expect crude constructs of smashed together bones to be more of a Flesh Eaters approach. Nagash is scientific in his approach to most things and you can see that in the designs of the creatures and monsters he creates. There's a deahtly order to things. Vampires are quite the same - with the exception of ghouls and zombies, most of the created units are quite orderly and sensible in their construction.

Smashing stuff together is far more appropriate for some kind of twisted monstrosity that the crazed Flesh Eaters would unleash on to the battlefield. Of course in their warped mind it would likely be some kind of really smart steam tank when in actuality it would be a melded and melted mish mash of living tissue and screaming near-dead all bound together with twisted razor wire.


Skeletons that have been smushed together don't all have to look messy. While being sensible in their construction they could still be horrific due to being unnatural.

 Crimson wrote:
So is there some Saturday morning cartoon drawn by H. R. Giger that I am not aware of? Because that is the only way people constantly making that reference would make sense.


Ha, as if those things are worthy of being influenced by Giger! Also not phalic enough.

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I can see some Giger in the melted fused aspects of the design - but yeah - they'd have for be far more sensually designed to be by him.

Anyway if any army were to be done inspired purely by his art then it should be 4th generation tyranids (interestingly the first generation hormagaunts were very Giger's Alien inspired)

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 Overread wrote:
See I'd expect crude constructs of smashed together bones to be more of a Flesh Eaters approach. Nagash is scientific in his approach to most things and you can see that in the designs of the creatures and monsters he creates. There's a deahtly order to things. Vampires are quite the same - with the exception of ghouls and zombies, most of the created units are quite orderly and sensible in their construction.

Smashing stuff together is far more appropriate for some kind of twisted monstrosity that the crazed Flesh Eaters would unleash on to the battlefield. Of course in their warped mind it would likely be some kind of really smart steam tank when in actuality it would be a melded and melted mish mash of living tissue and screaming near-dead all bound together with twisted razor wire.


Agreed and how cool does that Flesh-eaters tank sound

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 Mr Morden wrote:
 Overread wrote:
See I'd expect crude constructs of smashed together bones to be more of a Flesh Eaters approach. Nagash is scientific in his approach to most things and you can see that in the designs of the creatures and monsters he creates. There's a deahtly order to things. Vampires are quite the same - with the exception of ghouls and zombies, most of the created units are quite orderly and sensible in their construction.

Smashing stuff together is far more appropriate for some kind of twisted monstrosity that the crazed Flesh Eaters would unleash on to the battlefield. Of course in their warped mind it would likely be some kind of really smart steam tank when in actuality it would be a melded and melted mish mash of living tissue and screaming near-dead all bound together with twisted razor wire.


Agreed and how cool does that Flesh-eaters tank sound


The tank spewing forth great clouds of thick sooty smog as it charges gloriously over the battlefield. It's main cannon firing out loud and proud to smash enemy lines, whilst up close its flamethrower spews for molten fire to burn through armour and flesh alike; mixed with the cries of the fallen as they are ploughed into and ground under the wheels. .


In reality the monstrosity lurches and lumbers toward the enemy lines. It's cobbled and fused together body profusely leaking blood and bodily fluids that are fired up in a united fountain of gore that rains down on all those around it. Feeding the hunger of the flesh-eaters and befouling the enemy. It's main cannon is a horror that fires out the still bloody skulls of the enemy; whilst its real power comes when it hits the enemy lines. A great maw formed of many mouths of the bodies fused tears into the enemy. Rending limb from body and devouring all - adding to the fountain that spews up. A few heads on top are turned to spew out hot fresh blood; boiled into a broiling sticky concoction within.


Such is the warped horrors of the Flesh Eaters. Heck they can have machines too, the whole of the Skaven VS Flesh Eaters campaign was focused around a people who had attained a high level of steam-punk era technology who fell to the curse. Their machines now choked with flesh and gore; used to grind bone and bodies for the never ending feasts instead of their original purposes.

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Is that new bone castle terrain in the background of the video? It looks like it is set up similar to the Chaos Dreadhold. Nothing would make me happier than each alliance getting a castle...
   
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I'm a little amused how people throw around "Skeletor" and "WoW" as derogatory terms, like WoW wasn't the hottest property in fantasy for a decade.

As to "bones just fused together" take, the closest we have in model form are the malifaux Abominations, absolutely goofy models

(source: https://www.deviantart.com/cezarreo/art/Malifaux-Abominations-618502914)
   
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From my point of view skeltor is very 80s and Warhammer was born in that era - getting more 80s is getting right back to its creative roots!

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It seems like people either like them or hate for the most part.

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 Overread wrote:
From my point of view skeltor is very 80s and Warhammer was born in that era - getting more 80s is getting right back to its creative roots!

It really isn't. Warhammer was drawing on a quite different set of tropes and cliches. It wasn't part of the 'cartoons to sell toys with' push of the 80s.

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 Overread wrote:
 Zingraff wrote:
The Mortarch with retinue looks great, the rest not so much.

What's with the dumb, fixed grins? Most of the models come across as goofy, when they were probably intended to look malevolent. I'm just not feeling it.

And since when did bone become a plastic material you could manipulate into any shape or form? These dudes aren't proper undead, they're just golems which happens to have been manufactured, somehow, from bones. And the bones have such unreasonable forms and sizes to make them indecipherable as bones. For the most part they mimic the exoskeletons of insects and crustaceans, but we all know these are made from chitin and not bones, which are mostly calcium.

Why bones in particular? Why not wood or clay or any other commonplace material? What about using the clay soil from a cemetery?

With the whole Asian thing, why couldn't they've made terracotta soldier type golems in stead of this, which in my opinion doesn't succeed in either being "undead" or "golems".


With the way they are designed if you just painted them a reddish terracotta colour they'd be terracotta warriors.
I think bones because its a DEATH faction and it sort of fits their theme more than clay.



And to follow on, bear in mind that could have been their idea when they sculpted them, but then the painters made a choice.

Listening to one of the guys who designed a few of the Warcry bands, he said in his head he had colours in mind that aren’t how they came out looking.
So this could have been a terracotta style army or anything..

Either way, I’ll wait for people to paint them up in variant ways, see how cool they look then..
   
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It really isn't. Warhammer was drawing on a quite different set of tropes and cliches. It wasn't part of the 'cartoons to sell toys with' push of the 80s.
Warhammer wasn't, but I've always said that Age of Sigmar is like Masters of the Universe. Just look at any He-Man paintings from the era:
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It is, but happily I'm not seeing much of AoS in that mess.

For one thing, their weapons are too small

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Voss wrote:
It wasn't part of the 'cartoons to sell toys with' push of the 80s.


The irony here is almost a physical presence.

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 Mr Morden wrote:
 Overread wrote:
See I'd expect crude constructs of smashed together bones to be more of a Flesh Eaters approach. Nagash is scientific in his approach to most things and you can see that in the designs of the creatures and monsters he creates. There's a deahtly order to things. Vampires are quite the same - with the exception of ghouls and zombies, most of the created units are quite orderly and sensible in their construction.

Smashing stuff together is far more appropriate for some kind of twisted monstrosity that the crazed Flesh Eaters would unleash on to the battlefield. Of course in their warped mind it would likely be some kind of really smart steam tank when in actuality it would be a melded and melted mish mash of living tissue and screaming near-dead all bound together with twisted razor wire.


Agreed and how cool does that Flesh-eaters tank sound


at this point, I don't think GW would be able to sculpt such a mini to a decent standard. If they tried, it probably would look ridiculous and goofy. They are too much into the over the top sunday morning cartoon look. Hell, sometime this style is great (see the KO) but they absolutely fail when they try to do something creepy (as the Ossiarch bonereapers sadly proves)

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The Ossiarch Bonereapers prove that GWs artistic vision and technical skill are better than ever, and that people who compare them to cartoons have no clue of what they are talking about.

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