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d, here's some ideas on how you can customize your rifle


http://imgur.com/a/mIaz2

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Thanks for the feedback everyone. I know the AR-15 is popular, but I just think it's fugly.

There are so many after market parts for it that you can set it up to look how you want. Is there a particular part of the design you feel is off putting?

It's pretty much the whole "tacticool" look of them that you usually see, I don't know if I can describe it any better .

I like the old fashioned look of the M4s and others like it better, but after looking at some of the wood stock options for the AR-15s that have been pointed out it becomes less of a problem.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
d, here's some ideas on how you can customize your rifle


http://imgur.com/a/mIaz2

Youknow that's not something you don't see in post-apocalyptic settings much. How come in the Walking Dead nobody ever scavenges a bright pink rifle with stars on the side?

 d-usa wrote:
It's pretty much the whole "tacticool" look of them that you usually see, I don't know if I can describe it any better .

I like the old fashioned look of the M4s and others like it better, but after looking at some of the wood stock options for the AR-15s that have been pointed out it becomes less of a problem.

Gotcha I can see the utility for adding features on an AR15, but some people really take it to extremes (and then keep going). There seem to be quite a few wooden furniture kits;






Here's a few links for pricing too;
http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/stock-parts/furniture-sets/ar-15-m16-wood-stock-sets-prod38906.aspx
http://www.woodforar15.com/product/stock-sets-2/
http://www.ironwooddesigns.com/IWDAR15.html


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 Wyrmalla wrote:
Youknow that's not something you don't see in post-apocalyptic settings much. How come in the Walking Dead nobody ever scavenges a bright pink rifle with stars on the side?

Just play Fallout on the PC and mod them in

 d-usa wrote:

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Thanks for the feedback everyone. I know the AR-15 is popular, but I just think it's fugly.

There are so many after market parts for it that you can set it up to look how you want. Is there a particular part of the design you feel is off putting?

It's pretty much the whole "tacticool" look of them that you usually see, I don't know if I can describe it any better .

I like the old fashioned look of the M4s and others like it better, but after looking at some of the wood stock options for the AR-15s that have been pointed out it becomes less of a problem.

See, the tacticool look of a decked out AR15 is exactly what I like about them. Like this:

 d-usa wrote:

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Thanks for the feedback everyone. I know the AR-15 is popular, but I just think it's fugly.

There are so many after market parts for it that you can set it up to look how you want. Is there a particular part of the design you feel is off putting?

It's pretty much the whole "tacticool" look of them that you usually see, I don't know if I can describe it any better .

I like the old fashioned look of the M4s and others like it better, but after looking at some of the wood stock options for the AR-15s that have been pointed out it becomes less of a problem.

You would have loved the M14 I saw at Gander last night. Beautiful wood, scope, bipod. Mmm it was sexy. They also had 3 Colt 1911A1s that were well used, but a piece of history!

Tacticool is often an expensive look to go for, particularly when most of said equipment will only ever be used f a controlled shooting lane putting holes in paper. Not that it doesn't look cool, but it's a lot of money for a look and equipment that isn't going to see routine use.

Something like the above AR with underslung flashlight, IR illuminator, magnifier and eotech, etc, is a *very* expensive piece of kit. Easily $2k+ on top of the rifle.

Different strokes for different folks I guess, about the most I'll put on most guns is a red dot or a scope if warranted.

Personally however, I'm more of a fan of Glorious People's Rifle in the first place.

 Vaktathi wrote:
Tacticool is often an expensive look to go for, particularly when most of said equipment will only ever be used f a controlled shooting lane putting holes in paper. Not that it doesn't look cool, but it's a lot of money for a look and equipment that isn't going to see routine use.

Something like the above AR with underslung flashlight, IR illuminator, magnifier and eotech, etc, is a *very* expensive piece of kit. Easily $2k+ on top of the rifle.

Different strokes for different folks I guess, about the most I'll put on most guns is a red dot or a scope if warranted.

Personally however, I'm more of a fan of Glorious People's Rifle in the first place.

and other then shooting use

Glorious

Spear, tent pole, boat oar, war club, the nugget is like paracord. Unlimited uses.

 Vaktathi wrote:
Tacticool is often an expensive look to go for, particularly when most of said equipment will only ever be used f a controlled shooting lane putting holes in paper. Not that it doesn't look cool, but it's a lot of money for a look and equipment that isn't going to see routine use.

Something like the above AR with underslung flashlight, IR illuminator, magnifier and eotech, etc, is a *very* expensive piece of kit. Easily $2k+ on top of the rifle.

Different strokes for different folks I guess, about the most I'll put on most guns is a red dot or a scope if warranted.

Personally however, I'm more of a fan of Glorious People's Rifle in the first place.

Same can be said about all the "extras" people put on their cars.

It's all about hobbies.

 djones520 wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
Tacticool is often an expensive look to go for, particularly when most of said equipment will only ever be used f a controlled shooting lane putting holes in paper. Not that it doesn't look cool, but it's a lot of money for a look and equipment that isn't going to see routine use.

Something like the above AR with underslung flashlight, IR illuminator, magnifier and eotech, etc, is a *very* expensive piece of kit. Easily $2k+ on top of the rifle.

Different strokes for different folks I guess, about the most I'll put on most guns is a red dot or a scope if warranted.

Personally however, I'm more of a fan of Glorious People's Rifle in the first place.

Same can be said about all the "extras" people put on their cars.

It's all about hobbies.

If it's about looks then I agreed it's expensive. For me it's all about the capabilities those tools give you - hip shooting heads at 100 meters in pitch black is nothing to scoff at, and well worth the money if you ever consider the potential need to use it on man or beast.

For trained military personnel in on deployment in combat, I can see the point of paying for such equipment.

However, typically, at least in my experience, most people couldn't reliably hit a head sized target at 100 meters in full daylight, firing from the shoulder, with off the shelf ammo in a mil-spec barrel (and M855 in such a barrel averaging ~4 MOA anyway), without a rest, and especially if the target were moving (or if both they and the target were moving, also most soldiers can't either, that's why center-mass is prioritized). At night, even through IR, probably even fewer could reliably hit such a target, and fewer still live anywhere where any beasts of sufficient size to worry about exist. I can't even imagine a realistic situation where someone could legally take a shot at human a hundred meters away (and again, even if possible, two or three shots to center mass is probably both easier and more productive) and especially at night.

As such, most of that kind of equipment is usually just for looks and cool factor, which is fine, not saying people shouldn't be able to do that if they want to, I can appreciate the capabilities of such equipment and the aesthetic qualities, and I guess there's always people that want to be equipped for the *unrealistic* situations, but I just find it somewhat overboard for most shooters, at least any that I've seen in real life. Going back to the car example, my opinions are much the same.

I'd much rather have the functionality of a giggly-switch myself

 d-usa wrote:
What are some popular non AR-15 semi-automatic rifles on here? I've got a few different bolt-actions and I'm thinking about branching out and getting my 1st semi-auto. Most likely going to be a .22 for blinking, but I'm keeping my options open.

For .22s:
Your big ones are Ruger 10/22, and Remlins (Marlins and Remingtons which are now one company).
I think CZ may make one as well.
these are typically either mag fed or tube fed.
These are also typically FUN AS HECK TO SHOOT
One can get a cheap semi auto .22LR for less than $150, with a $50 scope and you can have more fun than a wiener dog sitting below a bunch of teenagers eating pizza.

There are also rifles now chambered in .17 hornet which is a newer rimfire round. People like them but I don't know much about them.

To name a few non .22LRs
AR-10 types (7.62 rifles)
AK types
SKS types
Battle rifle types (M1 - aka M14), HKs, FN and FN clones.
newer generation 5.56 types: SIGs, HKs, Tavors
M1 carbine
dedicated semi-auto hunting rifles (Remington as an example) with 5ish round capacities. These are more rare.

Just a random thought D, but if you got an AR15 in .22 and you wanted to diversify what you shoot would you be able to switch out uppers to accept 5.56?

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Just a random thought D, but if you got an AR15 in .22 and you wanted to diversify what you shoot would you be able to switch out uppers to accept 5.56?

I'm not sure there are too many ARs in .22 this would work for. I know the Colt/Umarex I have and posted a picture of could not do this. The rifle looks like an AR, but the innards/working parts function a lot differently. Most people I know of that want dual functionality start with their AR in 5.56/.223 and get a conversion kit (usually consists of a special bolt and magazine). You can get a .22 upper, but I think they are more expensive than the typical kit.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Spear, tent pole, boat oar, war club, the nugget is like paracord. Unlimited uses.

There's no excuse not to own a Mosin. They're so cheap and so useful.
I go for commie rifles myself, but I love optics, so my AK has a red dot and nothing else.

Lets see,
I have Mossberg 500 that Im trying to make look better and be more functional for home defense.

A marlin .22 that I just enjoy plinking with

My newly acquired G19 with wolf barrel. I'm planning on getting my CCW and carrying this.

I do keep ammo by my weapons, they are locked. My lady is familiar with the weapons and there are no children in the house.

 MWHistorian wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Spear, tent pole, boat oar, war club, the nugget is like paracord. Unlimited uses.

There's no excuse not to own a Mosin. They're so cheap and so useful.
I go for commie rifles myself, but I love optics, so my AK has a red dot and nothing else.

Likewise, I've got a red dot on my Arsenal SAM7R, but by Waffen Werks 74 just uses irons for now.

 CptJake wrote:

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Just a random thought D, but if you got an AR15 in .22 and you wanted to diversify what you shoot would you be able to switch out uppers to accept 5.56?

I'm not sure there are too many ARs in .22 this would work for. I know the Colt/Umarex I have and posted a picture of could not do this. The rifle looks like an AR, but the innards/working parts function a lot differently. Most people I know of that want dual functionality start with their AR in 5.56/.223 and get a conversion kit (usually consists of a special bolt and magazine). You can get a .22 upper, but I think they are more expensive than the typical kit.

you dont need to even swap out uppers as cpt jake said

one of my biggest gripes about canuckistan is that I cannot drop my .22 conversion kit into my AR and go gopher/squirrleing while still using the same gun for yotes/boar/ect.


basically you can take a standard 5.56 nato or .223 Caliber AR-15, and buy a drop in bolt and a magazine that let you shoot .22LR out of it.

cost like 150$, and I can swap between the two in about 20 seconds

its awesome, works well, accurate, ect. just takes a bit longer to clean out after .22lr but thats just how .22 works

So...KC will be opening a factory in the US.




I'm not quite sure how to feel about this. Should I be excited? Aghast? Both?

All I know is that I would like to know more.

 Vaktathi wrote:
So...KC will be opening a factory in the US.




I'm not quite sure how to feel about this. Should I be excited? Aghast? Both?

All I know is that I would like to know more.

Not tracking you. I'm a bit distracted...

 Vaktathi wrote:
So...KC will be opening a factory in the US.




I'm not quite sure how to feel about this. Should I be excited? Aghast? Both?

All I know is that I would like to know more.

I'm so emotionally confused right now that I'm not sure what to feel about this.

That being said, I really want to give that girl a box of Twinkies.

GIVE ME MY NEW PRODUCTION SVDS!

yeah, if they're able to do US produced SVD's, it'll be a license to print money.

They'll definitely get mine if they do.

 Stonebeard wrote:

That being said, I really want to give that girl a box of Twinkies.

I has the same thought

I want to give her something, but it ain't a box pastry.

I'd probably buy two SVDs if they're selling them.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Just a random thought D, but if you got an AR15 in .22 and you wanted to diversify what you shoot would you be able to switch out uppers to accept 5.56?

Dreadclaw, as others have mentioned there are .22 LR conversion kits for AR15s that work great.

I've had one by Spike's Tactical and three by CMMG. The CMMG kits win by a MILE, and CMMG makes their own mags.

Hrm, apparently it's not KC at all but a US group doing it.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/20/news/kalashnikov-made-in-usa/

So apparently on the surface they're not allowed to have any contact with KC in Russia...but they're using KC logo's and product line names.

Interesting...

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
Dreadclaw, as others have mentioned there are .22 LR conversion kits for AR15s that work great.

I've had one by Spike's Tactical and three by CMMG. The CMMG kits win by a MILE, and CMMG makes their own mags.

Thanks for the info

 Vaktathi wrote:
Hrm, apparently it's not KC at all but a US group doing it.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/20/news/kalashnikov-made-in-usa/

So apparently on the surface they're not allowed to have any contact with KC in Russia...but they're using KC logo's and product line names.

Interesting...

It's almost as if someone's executive order is being made fun of

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
GIVE ME MY NEW PRODUCTION SVDS!

New...production...SVD's?
I think I just drooled on myself a little.