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Releasing 2 new Army Books simultaneously wouldn't have the same impact . . . ok so you would pull in a wider range of people, but you wouldn't be able to have the same affect on sales, and be able to properly tailor the New Release shelves to properly show off the new models and rules.

Oshova wrote:I collect Ogres . . . They are the minimalist army, small amount of expensive troops. They are like no other army.

Because at the time Ogre Kingdoms was released the Chaos book didn't fulfill that at all.

@TK421
You bring up the fact that all three types of elves are represented because, historically, we have had myths of different types of elves. Alright, that's cool, but what makes you think we haven't had good and evil dwarves in all of our myths? In fact, with CD not being represented for the past 10 years, Warhammer is one of the few settings that HASN'T had evil dwarves represented.

I, personally, can't wait to see them redone.

As far as I know, the myth behind dwarves held that they were evil, malicious creatures to begin with, and the good Dwarves people knw of these days was a more recent invention.

Thank you, Walt Disney.

As far as we know, the 7 dwarves could've been helping Snow White for all sorts of nefarious reasons. Maybe they were secretly planning an insurrection against the queen to cause as much human suffering as possible. Maybe they wanted to keep Snow White to themselves and the Queen was an elaborate ruse to capture her Who knows? They're evil.

Railguns wrote:As far as we know, the 7 dwarves could've been helping Snow White for all sorts of nefarious reasons. Maybe they were secretly planning an insurrection against the queen to cause as much human suffering as possible. Maybe they wanted to keep Snow White to themselves and the Queen was an elaborate ruse to capture her Who knows? They're evil.

Sounds like you've been watching the more adult oriented Snow White.

Rule 34 says there's adult versions of everything.

And seriously, who doesn't want to see a girl with 7 midgets?

Let it be known that all the rule 34 references came AFTER my post.

The internet is as horrible as it is brilliant.

And seriously, who doesn't want to see a girl with 7 midgets?

Not I....

JohnHwangDD wrote:Rule 34 says there's adult versions of everything.

And seriously, who doesn't want to see a girl with 7 midgets?

7 midgets dressed as Hitler for the w1n!!

In the nordic myths (where elves and dwarfs come from) they are both good and evil. The god's best weapon, the hammer of Thor, was dwarf forged.

So good dwarfs arent a recent invention

JohnHwangDD wrote:Rule 34 says there's adult versions of everything.

And seriously, who doesn't want to see a girl with 7 midgets?

The sad 8th midget?

JohnHwangDD wrote:Rule 34 says there's adult versions of everything.

And seriously, who doesn't want to see a girl with 7 midgets?

Ah, that explains the hats then.

The idea of revamped Chaos Dwarves has me reasonably excited. That is as long as they go back to the original Chaos style, like the Chaos Hellcannon.
Here's one vote against the stupid looking stove pipe hat and blunderbus look.

The 'original' Chaos Dwarfs had neither hats nor masks. They were more like stunted Chaos Warriors in full plate armour (which could still look awesome if updated)

http://www.solegends.com/marauder/mm90cdwf.htm

I still think we'd all be happy if they somehow found a way to merge both styles.

Losing the Assyrian/Babylonian theme would be a mistake, in my opinion...

Grimstonefire wrote:The 'original' Chaos Dwarfs had neither hats nor masks. They were more like stunted Chaos Warriors in full plate armour (which could still look awesome if updated)

http://www.solegends.com/marauder/mm90cdwf.htm

The first Chaos Dwarves I remember seeing were a boxed set of Chaos Dwarf Renegades. An eight Dwarf set that included a two headed Dwarf, and Dwarves in Chaos armour. I was disappointed when they moved away from this look. The Hell cannon Dwarves remind me of those (a bit).

http://www.solegends.com/citboxes/bc6chaosdwarfs.htm

Alpharius wrote:I still think we'd all be happy if they somehow found a way to merge both styles.

Losing the Assyrian/Babylonian theme would be a mistake, in my opinion...

The beards can stay, those I don't mind, but everything else just looks bad, IMO

Alpharius wrote:I still think we'd all be happy if they somehow found a way to merge both styles.

Losing the Assyrian/Babylonian theme would be a mistake, in my opinion...

New style beards with old school armour, keep that suit of armour with a beard look. Tone down the Ork and Hobgobin elements too. Oh, and they should get Defilers!

Great chance for OTT steampunk chaos midgets with bizarre walking machines and the chaos dwarf bazooka! Oh and those weird bull-centaur pushed wheelbarrows of doom from waaaaaayyyyy back (there were two, one with scythes and flails, the other with hammers and maces).

I had the one with the flails that was used as a dwarven death steamroller for bloodbowl it was sweet.

Sent an email to GW about this, mainly because nothing I want GW to do ever actually happens and I had to be sure.

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We’ve heard the same rumors (probably form the same sources), but we have not heard anything official about Chaos Dwarfs being redone. Unfortunately, we wouldn’t have more information until they were closer to coming out (if they are).



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I actually believe that they're closer than we think. After all, there was a small CD codex on the old Aussie GW website, before it was axed.

Random question:

Are Chaos Dwarves still legal? I know they have a list in the old Ravening Hordes thing - can that still be used at tournaments?

Depends on the event. UK GTs don't allow them any more.

Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:I actually believe that they're closer than we think. After all, there was a small CD codex on the old Aussie GW website, before it was axed.

I'm assuming this was the Ravening Hordes list, before GW got on the whole "must have a GW-printed Army Book to play" business.

Isn´t ist naive to believe that GW would revive an army it doesn´t allow on its own tournaments ?
An army I never saw in my local gamestore or elsewhere for all the time about 10 years long ?
Sure, evil industrial slavetaking capitalists with big hats are a funny idea, but why should they bother to write an new army book for them.
I would be most happy if they just would fit them into a chaos book as an option together with their meaniest warmashines, they werre named Chaos Dwarves after all
I really don´t know why GW would bother to drag them out of the oblivion they fell into, what would be their motivation to do that ?

Because the mere rumour of a possible return causes threads like this, and the sentiments therein, to spark up all over the Warhamms related websites?

H.B.M.C. wrote:Random question:

Are Chaos Dwarves still legal? I know they have a list in the old Ravening Hordes thing - can that still be used at tournaments?

Most Us Tournaments do allow them. But there are a few that don't even know they are still an army..


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JohnHwangDD wrote:

Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:I actually believe that they're closer than we think. After all, there was a small CD codex on the old Aussie GW website, before it was axed.

I'm assuming this was the Ravening Hordes list, before GW got on the whole "must have a GW-printed Army Book to play" business.

if it were nearer to 5th edition it could very well be the list the Tuomas Pirenen was working on before he left GW.

the_ampersand_man wrote:

The first Chaos Dwarves I remember seeing were a boxed set of Chaos Dwarf Renegades. An eight Dwarf set that included a two headed Dwarf, and Dwarves in Chaos armour. I was disappointed when they moved away from this look. The Hell cannon Dwarves remind me of those (a bit).

http://www.solegends.com/citboxes/bc6chaosdwarfs.htm

Man, Khazek Doomlord was one baaaaad lookin' little fellow. Actually intimidating, despite being about 4' tall in scale. That's a feat.

Dwarves a so cool!!

I have a 'large' collection of reg dwarves, and I still possess 2 of my favorite 'old skool' CD models, the lamassu, and the Fire Bull (PLEEEEEASE MAKE THESE AGAIN GW!!!!!). I love the way that reg (good) dwarves are portrayed in the GW fantasy setting, and I think that the Chaos dwarves are the perfect antithesis to them. Whereas the wood, high, and dark elves all still have (somewhat) similar characteristics, the chaos dwarves (they really need a different name than 'chaos' in my opinion) seem like an entirely different race than their brethren.

I love that they use sorcery and turn to stone. Their mutations are muted, and consistant for the most part, compared to other races which 'dabble' in chaos. And while I do think the 'style' of the older models (the big hat ones) separates them nicely from any other race, it is a bit 'silly' when you look at how detailed and more mature the figures have become. I like the bull centaurs, but I think they should bring minotaurs into their army too, since they would be good 'bruiser' units for them, and because I like minotaurs. I would hope that they'd clean them up a bit, so that they loot more presentable compared to the beasts of chaos ones, but that would require GW to sculpt new models (or maybe just new heads) specifically for them, and with a line which currently possesses NO models, that would be a bit of a tall order I"m sure.

I think the fact that they use riding beasts is excellent also, and that fact that it's not just 'a dragon' which almost every other army uses makes them unique. The Lamassu is perfect in that it fits well with the babylonian background, but the fire taurus thing, is just beyond cool. An evil dwarf flying around on a giant flaming bull brings a smile to my face.

If forge world is in fact going to do this line, I will just send them my bank account info, and let them withdrawl what ever it takes.

Thank you for listening to my nerdy rant about bad dwarfs!!