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Delephont wrote:Absolutely pants...., and yet sooo typical of GW! The graphics are decades behind in quality, come on seriously, this looks like its fan made....I've been watching some of the trailers for the new Star Wars games, even the new Star Wars Force Unleashed II, and really, if GW arn't knocking out stuff of that quality then they shouldn't even bother....seriously! Unless they intend to give this "movie" away as a freebie on the cover of the next WD, then good luck.....
What a load of kak!
decades?
somehow I doubt you were even born in the 80's-90s, even less remember what animation was like in them.
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Kanluwen wrote:Have you actually watched any recent animated movies?
I'll put this question down to stupidity, and end by saying...its your money and time, if you're so lost up GW's back passage as to think the quality of the "movie" is to latest CGI standards, then I wish you well and enjoy....but for your own sanity and to avoid the shock associated with the realisation that there is a whole other level of "quality" out there, please don't go looking anywhere else for a Sci Fi fix....oh, what am I saying.....of course you won't!
It's not a blockbuster theatrical wide release feature film so it'd be understandable that it's not quite Pixar level. It still looks good for what it is, a direct to DVD movie.
Iron Angel wrote:Your one angry person... i actually hope its going to be a good movie. Without being lost in passages somwhere .
Oh and please can you tell some great Sci Fi animated movies?
I'm not angry at all, its just the way you're reading my post.....
Plus, its takes more than great graphics to make a good movie! I can't comment on the content of Ultramarines, obviously, lets get that clear. I'm only talking about the graphic content! If we're discussing graphics alone, then here are some visually stunning Sci Fi movies, Final Fantasy, Avatar....
Iron Angel wrote:Your one angry person... i actually hope its going to be a good movie. Without being lost in passages somwhere .
Oh and please can you tell some great Sci Fi animated movies?
I'm not angry at all, its just the way you're reading my post.....
Plus, its takes more than great graphics to make a good movie! I can't comment on the content of Ultramarines, obviously, lets get that clear. I'm only talking about the graphic content! If we're discussing graphics alone, then here are some visually stunning Sci Fi movies, Final Fantasy, Avatar....
If you say so then i was wrong.
Indeed it does take more... thats why Avatar and Final Fantasy both are very bad movies (at least to me). When we are talking graphics alone you are indeed correct.
But dont forget that those movies most likely had a way larger budget and also made it to theatres across the globe, while Ultramarines is a DVD production.
So i do believe its kind of unfair to compare those against each other..
Clone Wars for example is also not state of the art if you ask me. It looks horrible AND has a bad story.. I really like Ultramarines more and hope the story is better.
Well ok i bet i like the story better...
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Ultramarines according to this trailer looks like a starcraft brood war cutscene. That is not acceptable by any stretch of the imagination. When they noted that it was the bionicle team doing the movie I didn't think they would just make a bionicle 40 thousand film.
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Don't anyone think for a second this is going to be a full avatar/final fantasy. GW just dosnt have the budget for a amazing movie, but it will still appeal to the current 40k market. If it gets of the ground though we could expect another movie down the line with a better budget.
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Does it really have to do with budget? I mean, sure the money you can spend means more goodies to play with, but who here really knows the breakdown of a movie budget? For all we know most of the money could be going towards expensive catering......for example....
But ok, check out these two preview scenes, now I'm sure the budgets of these companies are comparible to GW.....
Delephont wrote:Does it really have to do with budget? I mean, sure the money you can spend means more goodies to play with, but who here really knows the breakdown of a movie budget? For all we know most of the money could be going towards expensive catering......for example....
no actually we dont know the breakdowns of the budget. But it has to be for equipment and people to some degree. Expensive catering actually is not that unimportant either ^^ pros like to work in a good working environment .
On the preview scene, im not sure that these cars are so much better. I think they look good, no doubt about that.
I have some questions: Is the Ultramarines trailer in HD? Is the Ultramarine movie nearly finished? Are the cars in the trailer actual ingame graphics or in some way enhanced?
no actually we dont know the breakdowns of the budget. But it has to be for equipment and people to some degree. Expensive catering actually is not that unimportant either ^^ pros like to work in a good working environment .
On the preview scene, im not sure that these cars are so much better. I think they look good, no doubt about that.
I have some questions: Is the Ultramarines trailer in HD? Is the Ultramarine movie nearly finished? Are the cars in the trailer actual ingame graphics or in some way enhanced?
Cheers
Sorry, I linked the wrong scenes! I was thinking, whats this man talking about cars for? Try these instead!!
By the laws of internet discussions i have to disagree ... but well you are right these are way better.
Actually thanks for these links ^^ i didnt know of these. Which has to change obviously.
no actually we dont know the breakdowns of the budget. But it has to be for equipment and people to some degree. Expensive catering actually is not that unimportant either ^^ pros like to work in a good working environment .
On the preview scene, im not sure that these cars are so much better. I think they look good, no doubt about that.
I have some questions: Is the Ultramarines trailer in HD? Is the Ultramarine movie nearly finished? Are the cars in the trailer actual ingame graphics or in some way enhanced?
Cheers
Sorry, I linked the wrong scenes! I was thinking, whats this man talking about cars for? Try these instead!!
The thing is, cinematics like these (and the ones at the beginning of the Dawn of War games) are very, very expensive. There are studios (like Blur) who specialize in making 2 minute long cinematics for games like this. The kind of money you'd need to get them to make an entire film would be exorbitant. People think good animation just happens out of thin air without having any idea how it gets made.
I dont get why people are complaining so much about the quality of the graphics etc.
Sure, the trailer wasnt top-notch, and looks a little dated, but come on; do we actually want to see a piece of high art, or do we want to see giant space men shoot giant spikey space men with their space guns?
Also as mentioned, in game cinematics cost a huge amount of money, just look at the quality of say Square Enix cinematics (not sure if they do them in house or not) compared to just about every animated film out there.
del'Vhar wrote:
Sure, the trailer wasnt top-notch, and looks a little dated, but come on; do we actually want to see a piece of high art, or do we want to see giant space men shoot giant spikey space men with their space guns?
I would really like both ^^ but giant space men with space guns are ok for the moment .
del'Vhar wrote:Sure, the trailer wasnt top-notch, and looks a little dated, but come on; do we actually want to see a piece of high art, or do we want to see giant space men shoot giant spikey space men with their space guns?
That's the problem. The trailer does not show Space Marines shooting Chaos Space Marines. It shows Space Marines firing at an unseen target, then some Space Marines getting shot.
I'm not asking them to make Citizen Kane, all I want is for them to not make stupid mistakes. Making a trailer that throws away opportunities to make the movie appear entertaining is a stupid mistake.
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Delephont wrote:Does it really have to do with budget? I mean, sure the money you can spend means more goodies to play with, but who here really knows the breakdown of a movie budget? For all we know most of the money could be going towards expensive catering......for example....
But ok, check out these two preview scenes, now I'm sure the budgets of these companies are comparible to GW.....
Game cinematic are what, a few minutes long? Of course they can afford to make good looking cinematic on a comparable budget, they only have to make it last for 1/20th the length at most.
2010/08/30 04:25:24
Subject: Re:Ultramarines (Movie) News from Games Day
Jericho wrote:Don't anyone think for a second this is going to be a full avatar/final fantasy. GW just dosnt have the budget for a amazing movie, but it will still appeal to the current 40k market. If it gets of the ground though we could expect another movie down the line with a better budget.
The trailer looked below the quality I would expect from the money a company like GW could put on the table. This looks like either a rush job or a poor studio, and given the nature of the bionicle films I would assume the latter.
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2010/08/30 12:34:55
Subject: Re:Ultramarines (Movie) News from Games Day
Delephont wrote:Does it really have to do with budget? I mean, sure the money you can spend means more goodies to play with, but who here really knows the breakdown of a movie budget? For all we know most of the money could be going towards expensive catering......for example....
But ok, check out these two preview scenes, now I'm sure the budgets of these companies are comparible to GW.....
You know all this talk of budget, blah blah blah.....if I own an I.P and lets say its important to me for artistic reasons, and financial reasons, why would I want to do something that will damage it in some way?
My point is this, if you're gonna do it, do it right! Why a half assed effort that achieves little if nothing for the setting?
All you fan bois out there are making excuses for it, but the bottom line is, people are going to compare this "movie" with other Sci Fi movies, whether they be two minute long game trailers or big hit cinema affairs like Final Fantasy.....just a putting a WH40K movie out there for the sake of it is stupid, if they can't compete with the industry standard, then they should stick to doing what they can do.....heaven help us, there are enough calls for improvements on the things they say they are "specialist" at.......
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then i was wrong.
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