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People who don't know their codex in general just piss me off. How hard is it to read the codex (rules stuff not fluff) from front to back when you buy it?

Last experiance was a BT player attempting to use 5th ed POTMS rules on his Vindicators and drop pods by moving 12" and still firing at BS 4. BT can only move 6" and use their POTMS.

Other notable example was a Necron player rolling 3+ for all WBB rolls (seriously?). Also claiming that Necrons had Army-wide fearless

I took my Necrons to regionals in the first Ard' Boyz event. Smashed round one and drew round two, so I really needed a win in three. My opponent got to regionals by being the only player to show at his local qualifier. He was running Ravenwing with Belial(?) in a speeder from hell.

Deployment was diagonal with about 24" between zones. We deploy, and I deploy warriors and destroyers back from the line with a good field of fire, outside of his charge range. This was fourth edition so we rolled for first turn after deployment and he won. He's preparing to start one and all of a sudden remembers his scout moves. I should have allowed the scout moves and forced a reroll for turn one, but a good look at his move still left him out of charge range, so I said go ahead. He rolls up his bike squads for scouting then moves them for turn one, does a little shooting, and declares his assault phase. Nothing is in range so I say whatever, but then he starts assaulting my squads with three bike squads, moving 10"-12" with each squad.

My response is WTF?!, but he explains to me that Ravenwing bikes can move 12" and assault 12" as an army special rule. I'm feeling really low for making such a huge error, but I make a little joke about Ravenwing being my next army if they are that badass. The game is effectively over for me, there is no way to recover. He is wrapping up his assault moves and I finally shake it off and get a little suspicious. "You know, I would just like to check real quick." I tell him, and since the judge is in the other room, I throw it out to the other players. "Hey, can Ravenwing bikes assault 12?" After multiple variations of "nope" and "what the hell are you talking about" I really get suspicious and give my opponent my best staredown. "No, no, it's a special rule just for Ravenwing!" he keeps telling me.

I get the judge, (who knows this guy as a sneak, by the way) and he simply demands to see the rule. Of course my opponent has no rule to back it up. At the judge's prodding he backs his bike squads out of combat, into the nice open field.
On my turn I gun down 15 or 16 bikes, effectively castrating him, and spend the rest of the game hunting down the remainder of his army. Belial and his armor 14 speeder went down to multiple glancing hits, which could still kill vehicles in 4th.

Word got around, and sneaky Ravenwing's opponent from round two cursed and wept bitter tears. I think his name was Scott, and he was or is the top Tau player in the country. He traveled a long ways to get to this regional location. Most times you can tell the hardcore gunslingers from the local talent, and I knew he was here to win it. At the beginning of the day he saw me unloading three monoliths onto my army tray and asked me if I was using all three. When I said yes he shook his head and admitted he did not want to play me no way. Round one he finished first with a big score. I wrap up my game and he asks me how I did. Turns out we had the exact same point total and I see him go a little green around the gills.

Pairings for two are announced, and I'm not playing Scott. Curious, I ask the judge, and now Scott has one less point. "Hey Scott, I thought we were tied!" I holler, and Scott replies "Oh, it turns out I had a point I didn't really score in the first game..". Now that is some of the most honest gameplay I've seen in a while.

So instead, Scott actually played Ravenwing in round two, and got pasted because he didn't question the "Ravenwing special assault rule". Sometimes I really wish I could watch some games, and this was one of those times.

Surprised that goes on in proper tournaments. Maybe i shouldnt be!

Its finding out too late that you were screwed over that hurts.

Krak_kirby wrote:

Word got around, and sneaky Ravenwing's opponent from round two cursed and wept bitter tears. I think his name was Scott, and he was or is the top Tau player in the country. He traveled a long ways to get to this regional location. Most times you can tell the hardcore gunslingers from the local talent, and I knew he was here to win it. At the beginning of the day he saw me unloading three monoliths onto my army tray and asked me if I was using all three. When I said yes he shook his head and admitted he did not want to play me no way. Round one he finished first with a big score. I wrap up my game and he asks me how I did. Turns out we had the exact same point total and I see him go a little green around the gills.

Pairings for two are announced, and I'm not playing Scott. Curious, I ask the judge, and now Scott has one less point. "Hey Scott, I thought we were tied!" I holler, and Scott replies "Oh, it turns out I had a point I didn't really score in the first game..". Now that is some of the most honest gameplay I've seen in a while.

So instead, Scott actually played Ravenwing in round two, and got pasted because he didn't question the "Ravenwing special assault rule". Sometimes I really wish I could watch some games, and this was one of those times.

I want to know what the Ravenwing player has done right in his life to be set-up like that for the same stunt next round ^_^ Karma sorta

The "extra armor" on a rhino gives it +1 to armour, making it a 12/12/11 vehicle.

Vindicators and Predators became 14/12/11

And the LR, because of the extra armoured plates made of (insert fake mineral name here) became 16/16/16

Needless to say my missile launchers did not like that game...

zeekill wrote:
And the LR, because of the extra armoured plates made of (insert fake mineral name here) became 16/16/16

Needless to say my missile launchers did not like that game...

I like this. I can almost read the thought process:

A +1 to LR, well thats only 15. That means lascannons can still get glancing. But 16. Best of luck suckers!!

Were the plates made of unobtanium?

"my hive tyrant has a 2+ invulnerable"
errrrr...... check yer codex.

Versing a SW player who had a unit of blood claws. He said his blood claws without a wolf leader didn't have to assault the dreadnought within 6 inches of them because the dreadnought wasn't a troops choice.

I asked to check his codex, and he tried to bluster his way out of it, hence his sportsmanship score was 0.

Wow this has been quite the successful necro. On page 2 there was a post on 9/25, then one on 11/30.

grizgrin wrote:One of the worst I found was against an old friend. Really nice, smart guy in his 30's. We came up to a critical point in a game, rolled scatter on a battle cannon. He kept measuring the direction of scatter about 45 degrees out from what the die showed. I mean, he would line up his ruller on the arrow on the scatter die, and twist it 45 degrees as he moved it to the point I had dropped the shot on, then tried to establish this rotated point as the center of the blast. I called over a few other friends, thinking maybe I was missing something, that this couldnt be what it looked like. Turned into them shouting at him. I waved them off and let him take the shot. Turned out to not matter a bit, he still lost. And never returned, which is what I had been trying to avoid by letting him take the shot.

Hows a grown ass man act like that?

This is one thing that really annoys me. Everyone I know does it and when we call a third person over they just say: "Well everyone does it so it doesn't matter." One thing I have noticed is that it never detracts from the shot as much as the original scatter.

Anyway back on topic. I would like to say in advance that I know this was a misinterpretation of the rules. I know someone who believed that which peice of armour you shot depended entirely on line of sight. So if you can see it you can shoot it. I lost a lot of preds and vindis before I worked out what was going on.

Bye
Waaagh!

Ordo Dakka wrote:I experienced the classic "twin linked = twice as many shots" thing.

To be fair, twin-linked weapons used to be two weapons.

Another good one was in one game I ended up charging a unit of Wraiths into a squad of space marines and rolled incredibly well on the assault. Every attack hit, every attack wounded. The Space Marine player sighed, and started pulling his models out, which prompted the following exchange:
Me: "You're not going to take your armor saves?"
Him: "They're got power weapons, don't they?"
Me: "Nope, just regular CC attacks."
Him: "Huh, they always did before. Is that an upgrade?"

I imagine somewhere, some other player got a really rude awakening when he tried pulling that trick on my opponent again.

Me and my friends always rolled 3 dices for first turn, as it's more random than just one. One day I got a 6, 5 and a 3, while they both got 6, 6 and 1. Then they declared that they tied and I lost. Wtf happened and they claimed that "general consensus" was that you roll all three dice, compare the highest numbers together. if that was a tie, you'd compare the second highest and so on. If your second was lower than your opponents, you do not consider the third highest at all. I called bs on that, since whenever you roll 3 dices, most people tend to think that you add them together. The older of the two then pulled the "general consensus" line and then proceeded to accuse me of wanting to go first above all else, despite the fact that, going by what he said, he would go first (he later beat his brother in a second dice-off while I was arguing). His brother even admitted that it wasnt common knowledge, and it was a house rule they never actually told me about, just assumed I knew since all of our dice rolls up until that point had been identical except for the lowest. We agreed to a second dice-off and I won. He then pulled a Seize the Initiative roll and got that (he usually called shenanigans on us whenever we used Seized the Initiative), but we thoroughly destroyed him in the end.

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:. Wtf happened and they claimed that "general consensus" was that you roll all three dice, compare the highest numbers together. if that was a tie, you'd compare the second highest and so on. If your second was lower than your opponents, you do not consider the third highest at all.

These were the official rules in 3rd and 4th edition for strategy rating.

grizgrin wrote:Played the Tyranid Kid, this little chunker who used to come up to our FLGS back in 3rd edition. Back when the Nids had that fully customizable codex, think it was 3rd. Anyway, he's stackin models on the table like there is no tomorrow, and when I realize he has more warriors on the table than I have Marines (no vehicles in my list, no termies or scouts). I ask to see his list as something isnt right. Turns out that he "thought" that the dash (-) right before the price of each upgrade option was a minus, so he was subtracting the upgrade costs from the base cost of each model. Most of his models were completely tricked out wiht options and therefore had negative points costs. In a 2000 point battle he prolly had 4-5k worth of bugs.

Wow. You must have injured yourself facepalming that moment.

It actually took some doing to convince him that I was right. He blamed dyslexia. I blamed his parents.

grizgrin wrote:It actually took some doing to convince him that I was right. He blamed dyslexia. I blamed his parents.

Can I put that in my signature? For some reason it made me laugh real hard

someone tried to convince me a thunderfire cannon was invincible and i could only kill the techpriest, when he died another could take the cannon over when within 2 in from it

i didnt fall for it.

zman111 wrote:someone tried to convince me a thunderfire cannon was invincible and i could only kill the techpriest, when he died another could take the cannon over when within 2 in from it

i didnt fall for it.

I'm almost afraid to ask but...isn't that how it works with artillery? *hides behind a big object, peeking out*

Sure Ixias. I don't mind being quoted so long as its not out of context.

Ixias wrote:

zman111 wrote:someone tried to convince me a thunderfire cannon was invincible and i could only kill the techpriest, when he died another could take the cannon over when within 2 in from it

i didnt fall for it.

I'm almost afraid to ask but...isn't that how it works with artillery? *hides behind a big object, peeking out*

Not in 40k. In 40k you need more training the bigeer the guns get.

I played a chaos player who would point out a chosen in a squad of normal marines and when he was killed would then "re-Elect" another one

Melissia wrote:There was a Marine player that attempted to claim that because his Marines were male they were BS5 while because my Sisters were female they were BS2.

I don't play against him anymore.

Sorry but this is by far the funniest one so far.

That guy sounds like an A-class douche. Speaking of which...


Second thoughts: Mel, you should've just thrown your Iron at him.
Sorry, I really couldn't resist.

Guys, we finally found out where nooblet gets his crap from! We reckon he played DoW a whole heap, and just reasoned that 40K was exactly the same.

We told him we'd kick him out if he couldn't prove his rules, which sorted him out a bit.
Nooblet: Don't flamers automatically demoralise people?
Us: No.
Nooblet: Do they at least put a negative modifier on it?
Us: No.


Nooblet: Oh yes, it's within 12" of my terminator captain, that makes it Leadership 10!
Me: What the?... Firstly, that's bullcrap, Secondly, it's a Sergeant!


One time, near the end of a lunchtime, we were so annoyed with him because of all his fake rules. He hates us calling him nooblet, and so we took advantage of that. What follows is a resounding scream, "DON'T CALL ME NOOBLET!!!!!"
He told the school coordinator, and we where all waiting for her to start handing out detentions, but instead she said to us in a kind voice, "Guys, you know he doesn't like it, please stop calling him nasty names."

Brilliant!

EDIT: That sounds very sexist, about Manrines being BS5 and Sisters being BS2. I bet he'll never get a girlfriend.

DarknessEternal wrote:

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:. Wtf happened and they claimed that "general consensus" was that you roll all three dice, compare the highest numbers together. if that was a tie, you'd compare the second highest and so on. If your second was lower than your opponents, you do not consider the third highest at all.

These were the official rules in 3rd and 4th edition for strategy rating.

Strategy Rating is for finding which mission you're playing, not who gets first turn. On top of that we were playing 5th edition. He also never mentioned Strategy Rating, only that we roll 3 dice and whoever got the highest wins.

Aduro wrote:I think it was the very first game I played. My opponent told me his Storm Bolters could all shoot twice because their gun had two barrels.

Same guy later tried to convince me that his Power Field got to roll it's 2+ inv save on two dice because the guy was also wearing Terminator Armor. (2nd ed)

At the `Ard Boyz before this most recent one, had a guy Deep Strike in a Drop Pod that only had the floor and the doors, then set the Dreadnought on top of it. When the `Nid player went to assault the Dreadnought he was told he couldn't because the Drop Pod was in the way. Instead of calling him on it right there he assaulted the Drop Pod. Got several Immobilized resulted against it, but was told that the pod was an Immobile vehicle and thus ignored those results entirely. When I found out about this he was DQed from the tournament. Hasn't ever come back to the FLGS for 40k again. I think he was also banned from Magic night for cheating in drafts there too.

Uh, storm bolters do get 2 shots, dude...

EDIT: Did he mean it fired four projectiles or what?

Melissia wrote:There was a Marine player that attempted to claim that because his Marines were male they were BS5 while because my Sisters were female they were BS2.

I don't play against him anymore.

Wow, ummm did he also state they could not vote either? What the hell?

Regards,
Carl

Ixias wrote:

zman111 wrote:someone tried to convince me a thunderfire cannon was invincible and i could only kill the techpriest, when he died another could take the cannon over when within 2 in from it

i didnt fall for it.

I'm almost afraid to ask but...isn't that how it works with artillery? *hides behind a big object, peeking out*

they work as a unit, when hit roll a d6 for deciding what to hit, the gun or the crew. Thats why Big gun kannons are so awsome, 12 krew.

zman111 wrote:

Ixias wrote:

zman111 wrote:someone tried to convince me a thunderfire cannon was invincible and i could only kill the techpriest, when he died another could take the cannon over when within 2 in from it

i didnt fall for it.

I'm almost afraid to ask but...isn't that how it works with artillery? *hides behind a big object, peeking out*

they work as a unit, when hit roll a d6 for deciding what to hit, the gun or the crew. Thats why Big gun kannons are so awsome, 12 krew.

Ah yeah that's right, I knew that I promise *cough cough* Nah but I'm still picking up the rules.

Which brings me to my story, when I played my first game (my orks against his tau) my opponent made up a few rules. I didn't know that back then and since he was way more experienced than me I just trusted him, but when I retold the game to my friends they told me he was cheating.

For example, his marker lights remained on marked units for ever, meaning he could stack them up over several turns. I can't remember the name, but his tank had some missile that was a one-shot weapon. When he had used it, he claimed that it was still a valid pick for weapon destroyed results which my friends told me was not legal although I'm not sure of that.

I once mistook the 'move through cover' USR to simply mean that I could move my units through cover, no rolls needed. Oh and when I was testing out Necrons, I made the big booboo mentioned above (thinking that Necrons had a 3+ WBB). Thankfully I wasn't stupid enough to think that they all were fearless, but still... goes to show how much of a noob I was last year when I first got into the game.