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KingCracker wrote:

Bromsy wrote:Yeah, it totally depends on the style of zombie. "Infected" type ala 28 days later, it would be a hold up til it blows over situation - by the way, was anyone else super pissed off at the second one and them "looking for a cure". The cure was lots of bullets and fire, and don't let it spread.

If it's like the new Dawn of the Dead - runners that are fully dead, we could have some problems.

Shamblers, I just don't see as being able to overwhelm the world at large, unless a whole lot of people make a whole lot of incredibly stupid decisions. That's been my problem with The Walking Dead, much as I love the show so far. How do they spread from city to city in large enough numbers quickly enough to overcome all resistance? All it takes is a good chain link fence to stop anything except overwhelming hordes.

First part, yes. The 2nd wasnt a horrible movie, but yea there were parts that annoyed me about it. Yea I too would just hold up like a hermit forawhile and let it die out.

Yes

Really? You are letting the fact that they are slow cloud how dangerous they are. Also a scratch or bite can infect you. Youve ALSO got to remember that in a situation like that, the military will set up "safe zones" where they will be taking people in at first. Thats where the zombie infection will breed like crazy. Then people will run away from there to hide, and naturally there will be people that are infected and either not know it at first, or wont tell anyone. BAM POW!!!!! Another small out break. And so on and so on and so on.

Sure we will be able to run past them if they are in small numbers, but in big groups man, its been said many times.

See, the assumption made in a show like The Walking Dead is that prior to the Necropocalypse nobody had ever heard of a zombie. In our world, we have quite a lot of theoretical discussion on the very subject, my guess is that if (somehow) a zombie plague were to hit the world, it wouldn't take us very long to figure out what we're dealing with as well as how to effectively deal with the situation.

I think a zombie apocalypse is extremely improbable. Not that a virus/infection/what have you can't ever exist to replicate the symptoms, but because of how it's spread. Only spreads by bites? That's not going very far. If I was father Nurgle, it would be spread in the air/water as well as bites. Then I am satisfied.

Goddard wrote:I think a zombie apocalypse is extremely improbable. Not that a virus/infection/what have you can't ever exist to replicate the symptoms, but because of how it's spread. Only spreads by bites? That's not going very far. If I was father Nurgle, it would be spread in the air/water as well as bites. Then I am satisfied.

exactly. if it is ever anything,it will be rabies.

http://www.zombiewaffe.com/index.htm

like in this.

chaos0xomega wrote:

KingCracker wrote:

Bromsy wrote:Yeah, it totally depends on the style of zombie. "Infected" type ala 28 days later, it would be a hold up til it blows over situation - by the way, was anyone else super pissed off at the second one and them "looking for a cure". The cure was lots of bullets and fire, and don't let it spread.

If it's like the new Dawn of the Dead - runners that are fully dead, we could have some problems.

Shamblers, I just don't see as being able to overwhelm the world at large, unless a whole lot of people make a whole lot of incredibly stupid decisions. That's been my problem with The Walking Dead, much as I love the show so far. How do they spread from city to city in large enough numbers quickly enough to overcome all resistance? All it takes is a good chain link fence to stop anything except overwhelming hordes.

First part, yes. The 2nd wasnt a horrible movie, but yea there were parts that annoyed me about it. Yea I too would just hold up like a hermit forawhile and let it die out.

Yes

Really? You are letting the fact that they are slow cloud how dangerous they are. Also a scratch or bite can infect you. Youve ALSO got to remember that in a situation like that, the military will set up "safe zones" where they will be taking people in at first. Thats where the zombie infection will breed like crazy. Then people will run away from there to hide, and naturally there will be people that are infected and either not know it at first, or wont tell anyone. BAM POW!!!!! Another small out break. And so on and so on and so on.

Sure we will be able to run past them if they are in small numbers, but in big groups man, its been said many times.

See, the assumption made in a show like The Walking Dead is that prior to the Necropocalypse nobody had ever heard of a zombie. In our world, we have quite a lot of theoretical discussion on the very subject, my guess is that if (somehow) a zombie plague were to hit the world, it wouldn't take us very long to figure out what we're dealing with as well as how to effectively deal with the situation.

I can partially agree with this, given the amount of "common" zombie knowledge there could be an effective cut in the " What the feth is going on" factor...but...just because people/ Gov. Agencies/ Law enforcement..etc know what's happening in a crisis doesn't mean they still won't botch how they handle things.

Another problem I'd have during a zombie Apocalypse would be that I wouldn't get to talk to FITZZ about the zombie apocalypse.

/sadface

Chowderhead wrote:Another problem I'd have during a zombie Apocalypse would be that I wouldn't get to talk to FITZZ about the zombie apocalypse.

/sadface

Wait, weren't you numbered amongst those who were planning to head to the shelter JP and I had discussed?
I could have sworn you were.

FITZZ wrote:

Chowderhead wrote:Another problem I'd have during a zombie Apocalypse would be that I wouldn't get to talk to FITZZ about the zombie apocalypse.

/sadface

Wait, weren't you numbered amongst those who were planning to head to the shelter JP and I had discussed?
I could have sworn you were.

shelter? already? but i havent released my super rabies yet

FITZZ wrote:

Chowderhead wrote:Another problem I'd have during a zombie Apocalypse would be that I wouldn't get to talk to FITZZ about the zombie apocalypse.

/sadface

Wait, weren't you numbered amongst those who were planning to head to the shelter JP and I had discussed?
I could have sworn you were.

I was! Right!

Sucks that I'm underag- Wait, no gov't. Booze for all!

Goddard wrote:I think a zombie apocalypse is extremely improbable. Not that a virus/infection/what have you can't ever exist to replicate the symptoms, but because of how it's spread. Only spreads by bites? That's not going very far. If I was father Nurgle, it would be spread in the air/water as well as bites. Then I am satisfied.

In most zombie fiction the virus is spread not only via bite ( primary means) , but also through contact with tainted fluids ( blood,saliva,etc) entering the healthy blood stream, so scratches, certain blood splashes ( in the eyes etc) can also lead to spreading the virus.
Not to mention, when those carrying the virus tend to be very " bitey"...transferance of the virus via bite can be very effective.


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lord commissar klimino wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Chowderhead wrote:Another problem I'd have during a zombie Apocalypse would be that I wouldn't get to talk to FITZZ about the zombie apocalypse.

/sadface

Wait, weren't you numbered amongst those who were planning to head to the shelter JP and I had discussed?
I could have sworn you were.

shelter? already? but i havent released my super rabies yet

...Release away.
I've been planning for the zombie apocalypse since I first saw Dawn of the Dead back in 1978.


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Chowderhead wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Chowderhead wrote:Another problem I'd have during a zombie Apocalypse would be that I wouldn't get to talk to FITZZ about the zombie apocalypse.

/sadface

Wait, weren't you numbered amongst those who were planning to head to the shelter JP and I had discussed?
I could have sworn you were.

I was! Right!

Sucks that I'm underag- Wait, no gov't. Booze for all!

Underage ?...I would care less if you drank...the world is over run by the walking dead...normal rules do not apply.
However, get drunk while your on watch...or let your drinking endanger others...and I'll shoot you myself.

Chowderhead wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Chowderhead wrote:Another problem I'd have during a zombie Apocalypse would be that I wouldn't get to talk to FITZZ about the zombie apocalypse.

/sadface

Wait, weren't you numbered amongst those who were planning to head to the shelter JP and I had discussed?
I could have sworn you were.

I was! Right!

Sucks that I'm underag- Wait, no gov't. Booze for all!

Underage ?...I would care less if you drank...the world is over run by the walking dead...normal rules do not apply.
However, get drunk while your on watch...or let your drinking endanger others...and I'll shoot you myself.

Chowderhead wrote:

Chowderhead wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Chowderhead wrote:Another problem I'd have during a zombie Apocalypse would be that I wouldn't get to talk to FITZZ about the zombie apocalypse.

/sadface

Wait, weren't you numbered amongst those who were planning to head to the shelter JP and I had discussed?
I could have sworn you were.

I was! Right!

Sucks that I'm underag- Wait, no gov't. Booze for all!

Underage ?...I would care less if you drank...the world is over run by the walking dead...normal rules do not apply.
However, get drunk while your on watch...or let your drinking endanger others...and I'll shoot you myself.

I'm one of those "Happy Drunks". I'd be laughing when you killed me.

Chowderhead wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Chowderhead wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Chowderhead wrote:Another problem I'd have during a zombie Apocalypse would be that I wouldn't get to talk to FITZZ about the zombie apocalypse.

/sadface

Wait, weren't you numbered amongst those who were planning to head to the shelter JP and I had discussed?
I could have sworn you were.

I was! Right!

Sucks that I'm underag- Wait, no gov't. Booze for all!

Underage ?...I would care less if you drank...the world is over run by the walking dead...normal rules do not apply.
However, get drunk while your on watch...or let your drinking endanger others...and I'll shoot you myself.

I'm one of those "Happy Drunks". I'd be laughing when you killed me.

Hows about you just don't get drunk when there's business to handle...that way you stay alive and I keep my comedian...win/win.

Besides, I have no idea how much you actually know how to do.
We may have to teach you a whole lot, how to shoot, fix cars, clean game, clean weapons...lots.
You may not have a hell of a lot of time to get drunk.

lord commissar klimino wrote:

Goddard wrote:I think a zombie apocalypse is extremely improbable. Not that a virus/infection/what have you can't ever exist to replicate the symptoms, but because of how it's spread. Only spreads by bites? That's not going very far. If I was father Nurgle, it would be spread in the air/water as well as bites. Then I am satisfied.

exactly. if it is ever anything,it will be rabies.

http://www.zombiewaffe.com/index.htm

like in this.

Nice web comic. can't believe i haven't seen that before now.

Goddard wrote:I think a zombie apocalypse is extremely improbable. Not that a virus/infection/what have you can't ever exist to replicate the symptoms, but because of how it's spread. Only spreads by bites? That's not going very far. If I was father Nurgle, it would be spread in the air/water as well as bites. Then I am satisfied.

My Answer:

Firstly, are there any mathematic majors out there? No. Well I hope, my fellow survivalists, you all gain a shred of knowledge from this document. Just know that your brain will fry by page three. If not, then something is seriously wrong with you and I advise you see a doctor A.S.A.P.

http://mysite.science.uottawa.ca/rsmith43/Zombies.pdf

Well, according to the article which I viewed, this document, summed up, is an actual thesis which primarily stats the chances of a zombie epidemic engulfing the wold. It also stats various statistics surrounding the epidemic, including global food rationing and infection rate.

I'm glad to see use Canadians are prepared.

I must be sick and twisted, because i actually understood some of that. I couldn't understand the formulas, but I could understand how it worked. And Im still in grade 9...
They didn't take the chance of immunity into consideration however, what if somebody was immune to the virus in the first place? Like in "I am Legend". What if they couldn't be infected, and once dead were dead? Forever?

I just find it unlikely that every human on Earth will have become a zombie having been infected by a bite and/or fluids. For this plague to spread over-seas, you'd have to have some really stupid people for it to take a foot hold there too.

Goddard wrote:I just find it unlikely that every human on Earth will have become a zombie having been infected by a bite and/or fluids. For this plague to spread over-seas, you'd have to have some really stupid people for it to take a foot hold there too.

QFT

If the whole zombie thing came about I'd do the smart thing and turn the game of life off. I'm sorry but that's just bs. Life itself is an obnoxiously difficult game, and if wants to go and be even more cheap and difficult, than I'm not playing. feth that.

DickBandit wrote:If the whole zombie thing came about I'd do the smart thing and turn the game of life off. I'm sorry but that's just bs. Life itself is an obnoxiously difficult game, and if wants to go and be even more cheap and difficult, than I'm not playing. feth that.

so...suicide? lame'o.

lord commissar klimino wrote:

DickBandit wrote:If the whole zombie thing came about I'd do the smart thing and turn the game of life off. I'm sorry but that's just bs. Life itself is an obnoxiously difficult game, and if wants to go and be even more cheap and difficult, than I'm not playing. feth that.

so...suicide? lame'o.

Got to admit, that is some pretty dark thinking there man.

Sabet wrote:
They didn't take the chance of immunity into consideration however, what if somebody was immune to the virus in the first place? Like in "I am Legend". What if they couldn't be infected, and once dead were dead? Forever?

Even though the very though of multiples and dirigibles scares the living crap out of me, I can tell you that the document does take into correlation the chance of an immune individual, or a "survivor", if you will, surviving in a post-apocalyptic, zombie-infested world. Although, these individuals are usually factored out as a result of other life-threating variables, such as starvation, sickness and infection (other then the so-called zombie plague), and yes, severe depression which may lead to other things.

DickBandit wrote:If the whole zombie thing came about I'd do the smart thing and turn the game of life off. I'm sorry but that's just bs. Life itself is an obnoxiously difficult game, and if wants to go and be even more cheap and difficult, than I'm not playing. feth that.

Same here.

Karon wrote:

DickBandit wrote:If the whole zombie thing came about I'd do the smart thing and turn the game of life off. I'm sorry but that's just bs. Life itself is an obnoxiously difficult game, and if wants to go and be even more cheap and difficult, than I'm not playing. feth that.

Same here.

if it comes to that,i can help turn it off for you.

but seriously? suicide?

Alot of the things people are mentioning can be avoided with a little bit of preparation now, and it's useful in the more likely event of a natural disaster. Food can be stored for up to 10yrs with the right methods (though bean and rice get mighty old), water for a good long while if using food/medical grade containers and a bit of bleach. If your Doc/Insurance allows it, it's nice to have a 3 months supply on hand and cycle it out, ask them, you may be surprised. Smokes are easy if your a smoker, pipe tobacco and empty tubes with a packing machine, I rolled my own for years before switching to a pipe.

I just wouldn't count on being able to go steal crap from people, looters tend to get shot rather quick, and people will get a tad defensive of what they do have.

I love end of the World movies and stuff like that, just got done watching Jericho, but I tend to think things will be more like "The Road", and I gotta admit my will to live would plummet really damn fast in that situation, just so...bleak.

And as a after thought, if the Just in time system ever gets interrupted, watch how fast the supermarkets run out of food, during Hurricane Katrina, I think it was less than 12hrs before the stores were stripped bare (and more so in some situations). Got a bit under 1mil people in my city, think I'd rather deal with zombies than a bunch of people rioting for food...

Sckitzo wrote:Alot of the things people are mentioning can be avoided with a little bit of preparation now, and it's useful in the more likely event of a natural disaster. Food can be stored for up to 10yrs with the right methods (though bean and rice get mighty old), water for a good long while if using food/medical grade containers and a bit of bleach. If your Doc/Insurance allows it, it's nice to have a 3 months supply on hand and cycle it out, ask them, you may be surprised. Smokes are easy if your a smoker, pipe tobacco and empty tubes with a packing machine, I rolled my own for years before switching to a pipe.

I just wouldn't count on being able to go steal crap from people, looters tend to get shot rather quick, and people will get a tad defensive of what they do have.

I love end of the World movies and stuff like that, just got done watching Jericho, but I tend to think things will be more like "The Road", and I gotta admit my will to live would plummet really damn fast in that situation, just so...bleak.

mine would get stronger lets just say id be the one shooting looters

lord commissar klimino wrote:

Sckitzo wrote:Alot of the things people are mentioning can be avoided with a little bit of preparation now, and it's useful in the more likely event of a natural disaster. Food can be stored for up to 10yrs with the right methods (though bean and rice get mighty old), water for a good long while if using food/medical grade containers and a bit of bleach. If your Doc/Insurance allows it, it's nice to have a 3 months supply on hand and cycle it out, ask them, you may be surprised. Smokes are easy if your a smoker, pipe tobacco and empty tubes with a packing machine, I rolled my own for years before switching to a pipe.

I just wouldn't count on being able to go steal crap from people, looters tend to get shot rather quick, and people will get a tad defensive of what they do have.

I love end of the World movies and stuff like that, just got done watching Jericho, but I tend to think things will be more like "The Road", and I gotta admit my will to live would plummet really damn fast in that situation, just so...bleak.

mine would get stronger lets just say id be the one shooting looters

Don't get me wrong, I take self defense seriously, and your not taking what I own without a fight, but wanton murder of people looting Walmart for made in china crap is not my concern, not to mention, you know, it's murder still. And no matter how big of a dog you think you are, there is always a bigger one, like the National Guard.

Unless your implying you are in the National Guard, and look forward to shooting looters....

Sckitzo wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

Sckitzo wrote:Alot of the things people are mentioning can be avoided with a little bit of preparation now, and it's useful in the more likely event of a natural disaster. Food can be stored for up to 10yrs with the right methods (though bean and rice get mighty old), water for a good long while if using food/medical grade containers and a bit of bleach. If your Doc/Insurance allows it, it's nice to have a 3 months supply on hand and cycle it out, ask them, you may be surprised. Smokes are easy if your a smoker, pipe tobacco and empty tubes with a packing machine, I rolled my own for years before switching to a pipe.

I just wouldn't count on being able to go steal crap from people, looters tend to get shot rather quick, and people will get a tad defensive of what they do have.

I love end of the World movies and stuff like that, just got done watching Jericho, but I tend to think things will be more like "The Road", and I gotta admit my will to live would plummet really damn fast in that situation, just so...bleak.

mine would get stronger lets just say id be the one shooting looters

Don't get me wrong, I take self defense seriously, and your not taking what I own without a fight, but wanton murder of people looting Walmart for made in china crap is not my concern, not to mention, you know, it's murder still. And no matter how big of a dog you think you are, there is always a bigger one, like the National Guard.

Unless your implying you are in the National Guard, and look forward to shooting looters....

err..nope,not in the guard here. as for the bigger dog,i know when i cant win,thats why ill always have a plan b.

that does bring up the quesion. the hell is wrong with the military in zombies things? they always get over run very...easily in my opinion.

Breaking the quote tree

Yes, they do, but it would make for bad cinema if half way through the movie they military rolled in and won the fight , that and guys like Romero likes showing the "evils of mankind" through his movies, meh.

Though I did 8yrs in the military, I honestly wonder how many of my former coworkers, across all branches, would really stick around and fight it out and not bail and run for home to protect their families.

Sckitzo wrote:
Though I did 8yrs in the military, I honestly wonder how many of my former coworkers, across all branches, would really stick around and fight it out and not bail and run for home to protect their families.

this.THIS. this answered the question how the military would ever loose. cause instead of sticking as a powerful group and fighting til them undead be dead,the men run home to defend the useless civilians.

never thought of that as a reason before. thanks

Goddard wrote:I just find it unlikely that every human on Earth will have become a zombie having been infected by a bite and/or fluids. For this plague to spread over-seas, you'd have to have some really stupid people for it to take a foot hold there too.

Don't get out in traffic much do you? Stupid people are everywhere.