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Worst ive read was palace of the plauge king. And Enforcer is knid of slow.

I have read a lot of other good ones but the king in my mind by a million miles is blackhearts. I loved that book. And the one gaunts ghosts novel ive read (Necropolis) was very good.


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Gotrex and Felix are cool as well.

Still need to finish Redemption Corps some day, but it grew very stale very fast, so chances of me finishing it are slim to nil. Same with Dark Apostle, Eye of Terror, Titanicus, Gunheads and Dawn of War 2. *deep sigh*

All cs goto books in general, why he is on the pay roll is beyond me, descent of angels was just beyond description for how bad a book could be.
Sons of dorn, as much as I wanted to like it, being a Imperial fist player and all, was just bad
Battle for the abyss, most powerful vessel ever created and you let it be destroyed by a squad of marines- serious plot holes everywhere, and the characters were completely lacking in anything close to common sense

Hated Battle for the Abyssmal. Also hated Fire Warrior.

Loved Mechanicum.

Thought the DA books in the HH worked better as a pair and maybe should have been released back to back, or as a stand-alone trilogy with the wrap-up volume.

We all like popcorn. Some like sweet, others salty.

Goto has been let go though right? Right!?

BrookM wrote:Still need to finish Redemption Corps some day, but it grew very stale very fast, so chances of me finishing it are slim to nil. Same with Dark Apostle, Eye of Terror, Titanicus, Gunheads and Dawn of War 2. *deep sigh*

See, I REALLY liked Gunheads... it's allot of fun, and at least Steve Parker managed to get the charecter of the Commissars good! Well, better than Rebel Winter, I mean. Has anyone read Rebel Winter? Commissar Karif is perhaps the "nicest" Commissar ever!

The Fire Warrior tie-in Tau do not work that way.

But the one I loathed the most was 'Eye of Terror' by Barrington J Bailey. what a steaming pile of drek that was.

Hunt for Voldorius courtesy of Mr Andy Hoare. I've read most of the 40K novels & maybe a third of the fantasy & Hunt has been the ONLY book that I felt like giving up on after the first couple of chapters.

The start was so cliched as if it had been copied from various other novels / typical actions films & only improved upto 'dull' by the end of the finale.

The bit where the White Scar commander, a chapter who hold honor as a virtue, is losing one on one combat with the Alpha Legion champion & allows an another marine to shoot the Alpha champion in the head with a bolt gun, before then finishing him off in the same manner ! So much for martial honor

I just finished "Courage and Honour". A He-Man novel without any inspiration or new idea, just "Space Marine X is sooo Godlike, shots a Fire Warrior left and slices a Crisis Suit in half on the right, yeah, and did I mention that Space Marines are sooo Godlike!" Even Jean Claude Van Damme movies are more subtle for Christ's sake. Tau Antigrav tanks fight for a bridge over a river! One Space Marine eats a Tau brain to get the manual for a Tau vehicle! And I thought the choking of an Eldar Avatar in Fulgrim was a single mishap. McNeill gets worse and worse. If the Tau were worshipping Slaanesh and the Ethereal a fat drooling child molester, I would have thought, Goto is back!

P.S.: I had to read the book because of Tau/Kroot references from that book in the last "Tau are TH3 3VULZZ" thread.

FordPrefect wrote:The bit where the White Scar commander, a chapter who hold honor as a virtue, is losing one on one combat with the Alpha Legion champion & allows an another marine to shoot the Alpha champion in the head with a bolt gun, before then finishing him off in the same manner ! So much for martial honor

There are more important things than honour. If a commander is willing to die and have a traitor escape for the sake of honour, he is not fit to lead.

Fists of the emperor wrote:All cs goto books in general, why he is on the pay roll is beyond me, descent of angels was just beyond description for how bad a book could be.
Sons of dorn, as much as I wanted to like it, being a Imperial fist player and all, was just bad
Battle for the abyss, most powerful vessel ever created and you let it be destroyed by a squad of marines- serious plot holes everywhere, and the characters were completely lacking in anything close to common sense

damn ninjad.... also multilasers........

I'm really suprised i haven't seen James Swallow's name dragged through the mud here.
That Blood angel trilogy was just awful.
Terrible Dialogue, even worse plot. It was just pure garbage.

Daggermaw- I just read the first two Blood Angel books over a period of 4 days and quite enjoyed them... or maybe my brain was melted in the process.

Worst BL book i've ever finished has to be Murder in Marienburg, absolutely dire and the author had some weird fixation on the idea of "tossing halflings"...

Worst BL book though has to go to the first Blood Raven book by the notorious CS Goto, the only GW book i've started reading and given up on. 50 pages in and that was it.

I've got Ian Watsons Inquisitor lined up as my next book to read so my opinion may change shortly

I am reading Brunner. I like it, but I have a feeling someone here must hate it.

I have yet to finish Redemption Corps.. it really is that bad.

The only reason i finished the first DoW book, by Goto, was because i was in Iraq, and literally had nothing better to do with no mission running.

Ive also not been able to finish Blood for the Blood God, it just cannot hold my interest.

some of my faves, are Brothers of the Snake, Double Eagle, and Gunheads... if you like ww2 history, the Battle of Britain in particular, you'll like double eagle (as this is basically all the story is, only in the 41st millenium.

Kroothawk wrote:And I thought the choking of an Eldar Avatar in Fulgrim was a single mishap. McNeill gets worse and worse .

It was actually a Wraithlord that Fulgrim dismantled with his bare hands. Still OTT, but nothing near Avatar-choking level.

For HH specifically it is, for me, a tie between Descent of Angels and Battle for the Abyss. For both of these novels I would skip over entire pages on my first read-through, desperately searching for the point where the book 'got good', and finding the last page before that point was reached.

For recent BL releases, Hunt for Voldorious and Helsreach were both horrible. I enjoyed Rynn's world quite a bit, though, so I guess I'm glad they got the chapter's of legend or whatever it's called series going.

For entire series, the Blood Angels stuff sucked entirely.

But the all-time-worst has got to be Warrior Brood. That it was on sale in Wal-mart should have tipped me off...

@Sourclams

He did burn his hands smashing open the head of an Avatar though. Wraithlord was the first fight. Avatar was the follow-up

sourclams wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:And I thought the choking of an Eldar Avatar in Fulgrim was a single mishap. McNeill gets worse and worse .

It was actually a Wraithlord that Fulgrim dismantled with his bare hands. Still OTT, but nothing near Avatar-choking level.

For HH specifically it is, for me, a tie between Descent of Angels and Battle for the Abyss. For both of these novels I would skip over entire pages on my first read-through, desperately searching for the point where the book 'got good', and finding the last page before that point was reached.

For recent BL releases, Hunt for Voldorious and Helsreach were both horrible. I enjoyed Rynn's world quite a bit, though, so I guess I'm glad they got the chapter's of legend or whatever it's called series going.

For entire series, the Blood Angels stuff sucked entirely.

But the all-time-worst has got to be Warrior Brood. That it was on sale in Wal-mart should have tipped me off...

Nah it was an Avatar....but I can look past that, he's a Primarch.

re: Warrior Brood...I searched on Amazon for it. The reviews are worth a laugh;

http://www.amazon.com/Warrior-Brood-Warhammer-40-000/dp/1844162346


A highlight;

If you have the option of reading a novel writen by C.S. Goto or punching yourself in the face I recommend you go with the latter.

AgeOfEgos wrote:

sourclams wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:And I thought the choking of an Eldar Avatar in Fulgrim was a single mishap. McNeill gets worse and worse .

It was actually a Wraithlord that Fulgrim dismantled with his bare hands. Still OTT, but nothing near Avatar-choking level.

For HH specifically it is, for me, a tie between Descent of Angels and Battle for the Abyss. For both of these novels I would skip over entire pages on my first read-through, desperately searching for the point where the book 'got good', and finding the last page before that point was reached.

For recent BL releases, Hunt for Voldorious and Helsreach were both horrible. I enjoyed Rynn's world quite a bit, though, so I guess I'm glad they got the chapter's of legend or whatever it's called series going.

For entire series, the Blood Angels stuff sucked entirely.

But the all-time-worst has got to be Warrior Brood. That it was on sale in Wal-mart should have tipped me off...

Nah it was an Avatar....but I can look past that, he's a Primarch.

re: Warrior Brood...I searched on Amazon for it. The reviews are worth a laugh;

http://www.amazon.com/Warrior-Brood-Warhammer-40-000/dp/1844162346


A highlight;

If you have the option of reading a novel writen by C.S. Goto or punching yourself in the face I recommend you go with the latter.

So many 5 star ratings. I HAVE to read it now

Of the ones that I've read... Hunt for Voldorius is the worst.

I obtained the book a month before its official release and I'm still not finished with it. I'm struggling to get through it because the writing just isn't that good. I feel like I'm reading a high schoolers book report on Hunt for Voldorius rather than the actual novel.

That entire series is pretty condescending in format. How much larger can the print get to bump up to $12? Don't tell me the maps justify that nonsense.

Well I have one to add. I was reading Sabbat Worlds and then came across the short story: "The Headstone and Hammerstone Kings". Horrible! Couldn't even tell you what its about or what happened. Also contains a non-ending that better not be a cliffhanger for continuation of this story. It get my vote for worst BL story.

I have only read a few BL books, mainly Abnett books ( Gaunt's Ghosts, Eisenhorn and Ravenor), but also Rynn's World by Steve Parker, and the only book I did not like was one of the Soul Drinkers books, Chapter War, by Ben Counter. The plot was tedious, the battle parts not that well writen, and the characters were not very good; I stopped reading the book after about 80 or so pages. One of the worst books I have ever read, luckily I had just checked it out of the library and did not buy that piece of trash.

liam0404 wrote:I actually enjoyed Abyss. Wasn't massively heresy related, but it was a simple story that allowed you to see that not all of the members of the traitor legions were bad.

I agree I thought it was a good space marine book but an atrocious Horus Heresy book. I vote the worst ever as Eldar Prophecy. I am still proud that I had the intestinal fortitude to actually finish that book (and I only cried four times).


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AgeOfEgos wrote:The dialogue, the stereotypical character elements, the pacing, the rushed ending, the cover, the price....

You do know it is just pulp fiction right?

spot goes to school - nothing!!! not even a grot

Ben Counter can't write worth a damn.

Dull, dull, dull, dull.....

Kroothawk wrote:One Space Marine eats a Tau brain to get the manual for a Tau vehicle!

I don't know what's worse: The fact that this made it into a novel, or the fact that this is an real ability that Space Marines have according to GW fluff.

I know if I would research the background of Space Marines in order to write a book about them, and come across the GW listing of implants and see that one of them gives them the ability to gain the memories of enemies by eating their tissue, I would roll my eyes about how stupid this is and then put it in the book just to make a point.

I hate how Lucian Soulban turned Necromunda into a generic cyberpunk setting with skyscrapers, bike chases and mega corporation spies.

Grimblades - Nick Kyme

Couldn't even read through the entire book. Cliche/boring plot. Dull characters etc

I haven't read many of the titles talked about on here, mainly because I've avoided them and as such never picked up any C.S. Goto books because every single person I know whose ever read them said exactly the same thing (they are bad), but a few books have rather irked me. Brothers of the Snake was a well written piece of fiction, but utter garbage in respect to 40k fluff. Space Marines are not in the chain of command of the Imperial Guard and can't just waltz in and bark orders and have officers arrested, and a tactical squad isn't going to kill *thousands* of Dark Eldar, and they certainly aren't going to send just one Space Marine after an unknown number of Dark Eldar raiders on an Imperial world.

Likewise Dark Creed was decently written fiction but pretty bad fanwank where the author makes it out that the tens of *Billions* of trained,experienced, heavily fortified, prepared and well equipped Imperial Guard troops were obviously no match for 6,000 Space Marines. Really? Each Word bearer is worth several *million* entrenched normal troops? Total Gak.