WarOne wrote:I also found this image lurking the webs:

Brother Ramses wrote:So what were the results Dash? Did you get overall or best general?

RiTides wrote:That's silly. If they gave you the win on-site, it should stay put... I'm not a fan of "recounts". I'm guessing that means you would've had Best General (by a long shot) anyway.

I hope the last place guy you gave the prize to gets to keep it... that was a really nice gesture, imo.

Dashofpepper wrote:

Game #5: They had announced game start, and I was starting to freak out because David still hadn't returned from lunch. I was randomly asking people if they knew who David Light was so that we could get our game underway. When he finally did show up, the player who was on the table before us was still packing his stuff up. Slowly. One model at a time back into his battlefoam so that he could go over to his table and take them back out again. I was starting to stress. David had quite a bit to drink over lunch apparently, and was still going at it...and had to take several breaks to use the restroom. So we got off to a late start because he got back late from lunch, a later start because our table wasn't cleared yet, and several delays so that he could go relieve himself. During the game, I tried several gentle "Alright, whatcha got?" to try speeding him along as he stood there studying the table. And the big one....we had a 30-40 minute pause in our game at the top of turn 2 because of a rules dispute. Wyches have surrounded and assaulted a storm raven and wrecked it. They didn't get a run far enough to COMPLETELY surround it, and left a 3" or so gap on one side of the base. Thus begins the rule dispute on disembarking. It went like this:

David: Alright, I'm going to get out 6 guys, and the other 4 and the dreadnought are destroyed.
Dash: I'm pretty sure that if the entire unit can't get out, then the unit is destroyed?
David and Dash consult rulebook.
David: No, it specifically says models that can't get out are destroyed.
Justin: But on the column next to it, it talks about the unit disembarkation.
David: But the model rule is more specific.
Justin: Hrm...alright. But you should still be able to emergency disembark, yeah? All 10 guys get out without 2" of the hull?
David: No, because that would put me within 1" of you.
Justin: <I'm actually arguing for his benefit here, I know> My models are 1", your models are 1", which means that 2" out from the hull puts you precisely 1" away from me.
David: No, I'd still be within 1".
Justin: Dude, its just addition. Its a mathematical certainty that you can get out.
David: Then my dreadnought can get out over here! <Puts dread on the other side of wyches>
Justin: Uh...no, you can't move through my models to disembark your own.
David: Yes I can, it says ANYWHERE within 2" of the hull, it doesn't say I can't move through you.
Justin: So they magically teleport to the other side? You can't get there without going through me and moving within 1" of my models.
David: It doesn't say that I can't.

Meanwhile, the judges are looking at the rulebook...and we're 40 minutes into repeating the same things over and over...and they haven't ruled one way or the other. Finally, I'm freaking out even more about the time and our game not finishing and say, "Alright...look - lets just do it your way so we can get on with the game." Judges say, "So you're good here?" I say, "Yeah, we're fine."

This is the ONE tournament that I didn't bring the GW FAQ with me. And in big bold text in the main rulebook FAQ, it says that disembarking models must follow the rules for normal model movement, and can't move through enemy models to disembark.

The end result was him getting a dreadnought out that he shouldn't have been able to

thehod wrote: @AlamoGT players

How did everyone feel about the scoring and scenarios this year?

Caldera02 wrote:Converted raider!? really? what did you convert? You added two guns to the front, big whoop. And wrong guns at that. You didn't even try. Most DE players went out of their way to actually convert a venom from vypers or something similar. They are CLEARLY smaller than a raider in the book. Tyranid players went out of their way to convert tervigons. So don't sit there and try to say your raiders are converted.

Here are the things that bothered me about our game. The very first argument was you trying to tell me that of the 4 pieces of terrain on the board, the two hills did not count as cover. I thought that was a bit rich considering you have 9 venoms... So I didn't let you get away with that one.

Second, you were not always consistent with your dice rolls. You said anything that rolled outside your dice box would get re-rolled. That only happened once during our game but the final match I watched you do it repeatedly. Just very shady in my opinion that you would follow your own rule when it suited you.

Third, now this isn't exactly against the rules but also very dirty. I watched you measure movement for your side ways counts as venoms and then rotate them to gain inches. Normally I would just shake my head at such cheasy tactics just to get a win but couple that with your extra long venoms, you actually gain a lot of extra distance by doing this.

Fourth and the one that bothered me the most. You cheating me out of that charge. My base was clearly touching yours without being "under" your so called venom. Also in this instance if you had a correctly modified venom I could have charged around the other side but it was so close the judges did not want to make a solid ruling on it. So we diced off on a game changing move that should never have even been a question.

Out of the 5 people you played this past weekend, 4 of them gave you bad games. how does that make you feel? Do you feel better by cheating to win? I don't know how you won having such a crappy sportsmanship score. And giving your prize to the last place person does not redeem you. That is an act of kindness done only by winners.

I hope you come to wargamescon and try to have fun by not cheating your opponents. But I will tell you this, cheating will not be tolerated. Have fun little man.

After each game the players will have one question on the score sheet which asks, "Did your opponent's behavior make this a bad game for you?" Here are the criteria to apply:

1) Did the opponent play sloppily (sloppy measuring, sloppy movement)?

2) Did the opponent appear to deliberately slow play to avoid finishing the game?

3) Was your opponent prepared (on time, had a copy of his list for you, etc.)?

4) Was your opponent open with die rolls—i.e. did he clearly announce what rolls were for, did he allow you to see all dice results before picking them up, etc.

5) Did the opponent remain consistent in his rules interpretations—i.e. did he interpret a rule one way when it worked in his favor, and another way when it did not work in his favor?

6) Did the opponent treat you with respect? He doesn't have to be your best buddy, but can't be a total asshat either.

This list is not exhaustive, but please reserve bad game votes for people who really deserve it.

thehod wrote: @AlamoGT players

How did everyone feel about the scoring and scenarios this year?

I won Best Overall.

However, John sent out an e-mail this morning noting that his matrix was messed up, and apparently I didn't win.

*shrugs* I was the only one who went 5-0, and that's what I truly care about.

Ratius wrote:

I won Best Overall.

However, John sent out an e-mail this morning noting that his matrix was messed up, and apparently I didn't win.

*shrugs* I was the only one who went 5-0, and that's what I truly care about.

I dont get that
If one goes 5-0 and say the second guy goes 4-1 how can you not finish top? Would sportsmanship/painting points account for that much of a difference?
I acknowledge someone else might have gone 5-0 and had a better painting record or something.

Some excellently painted armies btw, really love the blue Eldar (Smittys was it?).