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chaos0xomega wrote:You miss the part where I had my nose broken? Maybe I should throw in that I was wearing my glasses at the time as well, yeah those were shattered and scratched up my face underneath my eyes and along my eyebrow ridge. How about the fact that the bottom halves of my two front teeth are artificially filled in, because some dick decided to push me down a full flight of stairs. Yeah, social pressure my ass, getting beat up isn't social pressure.
Thank goodness your experiences have given you compassion for other people who experience bullying.
You are truly and inspiration to us all.
The way I see it, it helped me grow as a person, and I'm stronger because of it. I hate it when I see kids being bullied, but from the description of what Rebecca Black is dealing with, its just teasing, she isn't being threatened or beat up over it. Besides that, she made money off of it and has achieved worldwide notoriety/fame as a result. If I were her I'd be laughing along w/ everyone making fun of me all the way to the bank.
Unfortunately, you aren't the one who decides how someone feels about the way they are being treated, and your positions in this thread have actually been pretty insensitive considering what you allegedly went through.
Piling on with everyone else makes you just as bad as the bully themselves, and that's exactly what you did in the OP.
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chaos0xomega wrote:
As for the homeschooling bit, I know a couple kids that have been homeschooled, and they're some of the coolest kids I know. They certainly get more action with the girls than I do.
From your posts it sounds like it'd be pretty difficult -not- to.
Personally, I plan on having my kids go to a private school or have them homeschooled. Seems so much easier as a parent, and anecdotally it's harder to get in with a bad crowd that way
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ineptus astartes wrote:Private schools can have bad crowds too.
Boy howdy.
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Monster Rain wrote:
Unfortunately, you aren't the one who decides how someone feels about the way they are being treated, and your positions in this thread have actually been pretty insensitive considering what you allegedly went through.
Piling on with everyone else makes you just as bad as the bully themselves, and that's exactly what you did in the OP.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
Unfortunately, you aren't the one who decides how someone feels about the way they are being treated, and your positions in this thread have actually been pretty insensitive considering what you allegedly went through.
Piling on with everyone else makes you just as bad as the bully themselves, and that's exactly what you did in the OP.
:shrug: maybe I'm just a 'runt elitist' but I went through way worse than her, I know others that have been through/are going through way worse than her, and they haven't/didn't quit. I have no sympathy for her given how trivial her 'plight' is by comparison. After all I've dealt with, I now have thicker skin than a rhino unless something really pisses me off, and I am incredibly insensitive to pretty much everything. You are talking to someone who regularly bitches people out for complaining that they had to wake up for class at 7 A.M. (I've most likely been up since 5), or because the steak they ordered at a restaurant was slightly over/under cooked (there are people out there that are lucky to even have food), etc. Personally, I call it manning up.
Maybe I am just as bad as the bullies, but the way I see it, I'm not because I'm not (nor would I) do anything to her in person... in fact, I am more likely to be a bully when I hear someone is quitting/giving in than I am to make fun of them for the way they dress, how gakky their song is, etc.
ineptus astartes wrote:Private schools can have bad crowds too.
Fact, I was in private school between 5th and 8th (really where all my troubles started), and that was actually by far much worse than the public high school I went to.
Vladsimpaler wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
As for the homeschooling bit, I know a couple kids that have been homeschooled, and they're some of the coolest kids I know. They certainly get more action with the girls than I do.
From your posts it sounds like it'd be pretty difficult -not- to.
Har har. Im way better off nowadays, but I still have terrible luck (my timing is terrible). Still these guys are not only some of the smartest guys I know but they're massively popular with the ladies, moreso than the vast majority of the people I know/have met (and I know some MAJOR players).
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chaos0xomega wrote:
:shrug: maybe I'm just a 'runt elitist' but I went through way worse than her, I know others that have been through/are going through way worse than her, and they haven't/didn't quit.
You know Ms. Black, then? You have seen what she goes through on a daily basis?
Didn't you try to tell me off for not "knowing you"?
chaos0xomega wrote:
After all I've dealt with, I now have thicker skin than a rhino unless something really pisses me off, and I am incredibly insensitive to pretty much everything.
No you don't. Your angry rant earlier may have been a special case, but I have sparred with you in the past and you have gotten seemingly irate as a result. Either I am especially irritating, which is certainly possible, or your skin is not so thick as you believe; which unfortunately means that this "big man" attitude is a defense mechanism.
chaos0xomega wrote:
You are talking to someone who regularly bitches people out for complaining that they had to wake up for class at 7 A.M. (I've most likely been up since 5), or because the steak they ordered at a restaurant was slightly over/under cooked (there are people out there that are lucky to even have food), etc. Personally, I call it manning up.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
Monster Rain wrote:Funny, my definition of "manning up" would include sticking up for people when some donkey-cave is bullying them.
This.
Also, you seriously bitch people out for wanting their food cooked a certain way because some people don't get food?
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Monster Rain wrote:Funny, my definition of "manning up" would include sticking up for people when some donkey-cave is bullying them.
Agreed. In fact, it's a source of constant surprise that so many Americans males consider 'manning-up' to mean 'acting like an obnoxious dick'.
Nobleness is the measure of a man, not that.
I agree in part...
While I believe one should speak up against those that would push another around I also believe that the person who finds him/herself as a target of abuse should stand up for themselves as well...
One can only keep another " under their wing" for so long.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
Personally I don't see the point in insulting people, it never really makes me feel better than anyone else so I don't do it, although I can be critical at times.
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Monster Rain wrote:Funny, my definition of "manning up" would include sticking up for people when some donkey-cave is bullying them.
Agreed. In fact, it's a source of constant surprise that so many Americans males consider 'manning-up' to mean 'acting like an obnoxious dick'.
Nobleness is the measure of a man, not that.
I agree in part...
While I believe one should speak up against those that would push another around I also believe that the person who finds him/herself as a target of abuse should stand up for themselves as well...
One can only keep another " under their wing" for so long.
chaos0xomega wrote:
:shrug: maybe I'm just a 'runt elitist' but I went through way worse than her, I know others that have been through/are going through way worse than her, and they haven't/didn't quit.
You know Ms. Black, then? You have seen what she goes through on a daily basis?
Didn't you try to tell me off for not "knowing you"?
I told you off for in effect calling me a liar more than anything else. According to what she said, her problems are whatever, pretty much every kid is going to get teased for saying or doing something or other. She is not being beat up, she did not have pornographic images of her plastered on the walls of the school, she wasn't raped, she isn't claiming vicious rumors are spreading about her giving the black rapper from her video a blowjob or anything like that, etc. I have checked multiple articles, and all of them basically say the same thing, kids singing her song in a funny voice/poking fun at her about the lyrics, thats called life. Maybe there is more to it than that, but she hasn't admitted it thus far. Besides that, what has she got to complain about, she has sold thousands of copies of her song on iTunes, she has been on Good Morning America, Katy Perry featured her in at least one of her music videos, Lady Gaga went to her house to meet her, Simon Cowell said that he is a big fan of her song... Simon fething Cowell liked her song. As far as I'm concerned, at that point, people can say whatever the hell they want, it's all motivated by jealousy.
No you don't. Your angry rant earlier may have been a special case, but I have sparred with you in the past and you have gotten seemingly irate as a result. Either I am especially irritating, which is certainly possible, or your skin is not so thick as you believe; which unfortunately means that this "big man" attitude is a defense mechanism.
It is a defense mechanism. It didn't come about as a result of me living in a world of gumdrop smiles and lemonade streams. As for being irate in previous sparring matches, I can't say I can recall really being upset by something you said. I have my own personal opinion of you, that is true, but its pretty hard to READ a tone of voice...
Funny, my definition of "manning up" would include sticking up for people when some donkey-cave is bullying them.
Been there, done that. I don't consider off key singing to be bullying. Honestly, unless things are different in California, school isn't even in session right now. Either kids are calling her up and harassing her at home (which IS actual bullying, but she has made no mention of this), or she is just taking advantage of her 'situation'. As far as I'm concerned, she is old news anyway, like most internet related meme's, her lifetime of popularity has expired. This is honestly the first time I've heard/read/seen her name all summer, and my guess is that if she is enduring a fresh round of bullying, it might be motivated by her new song, which I honestly can't even be bothered to listen to, and I just asked a bunch of the people I know if they had (including the group that first introduced me to that original terrible terrible song), and half of them didn't even know about it. I mean honestly, when was the last time you saw/made a reference to Star Wars kid? Numa Numa? Hell, i haven't even heard a Justin Bieber reference for a while now.
In any case, most of the times I do stick up for the victim, once the bully disappears I usually give the victim a lesson from my school of hard knocks on not taking crap from people and sticking up for themselves. I've earned the respect of many of the people I know for the way I handle these situations. You know, its that whole 'give a man a fish, teach a man to fish' thing. Someone isn't always going to be there to help you, you need to learn to figure out how to handle things yourself.
Also, you seriously bitch people out for wanting their food cooked a certain way because some people don't get food?
Read that comment again. I have nothing against people wanting their food cooked a certain way. Its when they get their food and everyone at the table is enjoying their meal, and the one dick in the corner is sitting there saying "Eh, this steak is terrible, its just way to dry, and look the color and texture is all wrong, and there is a little bit of pink in the center, I wanted medium well and this is clearly medium, and its over seasoned, and yadda yadda yadda." If the steakk is bad, we get it, you can go ahead and say so, its when you spend the entire time we are sitting their eating complaining about it that I have an issue and tell the guy to stfu and deal with it.
Agreed. In fact, it's a source of constant surprise that so many Americans males consider 'manning-up' to mean 'acting like an obnoxious dick'.
chaos0xomega wrote:
I told you off for in effect calling me a liar more than anything else.
I assume everyone is lying.
chaos0xomega wrote:
According to what she said, her problems are whatever, pretty much every kid is going to get teased for saying or doing something or other. She is not being beat up, she did not have pornographic images of her plastered on the walls of the school, she wasn't raped, she isn't claiming vicious rumors are spreading about her giving the black rapper from her video a blowjob or anything like that, etc. I have checked multiple articles, and all of them basically say the same thing, kids singing her song in a funny voice/poking fun at her about the lyrics, thats called life.
Well, right, but being hit in the head with a brick is also part of "life", and yet people seem to object to it.
Quite honestly, you sound vindictive.
chaos0xomega wrote:
Maybe there is more to it than that, but she hasn't admitted it thus far. Besides that, what has she got to complain about, she has sold thousands of copies of her song on iTunes, she has been on Good Morning America, Katy Perry featured her in at least one of her music videos, Lady Gaga went to her house to meet her, Simon Cowell said that he is a big fan of her song... Simon fething Cowell liked her song. As far as I'm concerned, at that point, people can say whatever the hell they want, it's all motivated by jealousy.
And yet another defense mechanism.
chaos0xomega wrote:
It is a defense mechanism. It didn't come about as a result of me living in a world of gumdrop smiles and lemonade streams. As for being irate in previous sparring matches, I can't say I can recall really being upset by something you said. I have my own personal opinion of you, that is true, but its pretty hard to READ a tone of voice...
Not as hard as you might think. For example, were I speaking these words, the tone would be exceptionally smug, as I am generally smug, and quite arrogant. Of course, you probably knew that at first breath.
Anyway, the funny thing about defense mechanisms is that they tend to produce false insecurity. For example, I don't trust people because I have issues trusting people in the past, and so I am comfortable with my own lies, and those of others. You appear to simply be angry, as it appears you have had experience dealing with anger in the past. My objection revolves around whether or not your anger is really the best recourse here.
Monster Rain wrote:Funny, my definition of "manning up" would include sticking up for people when some donkey-cave is bullying them.
Agreed. In fact, it's a source of constant surprise that so many Americans males consider 'manning-up' to mean 'acting like an obnoxious dick'.
Nobleness is the measure of a man, not that.
I agree in part...
While I believe one should speak up against those that would push another around I also believe that the person who finds him/herself as a target of abuse should stand up for themselves as well...
One can only keep another " under their wing" for so long.
Sometimes you only have to do it once for a person though. I've personally interrupted people who were giving someone a hassle, and once I did the victim (who was obviously at fault for his predicament ) took care of the problem on their own.
In some cases you just need to give a little nudge to get the ball rolling, that's all.
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dogma wrote:
You are an adorable little Cialis commercial.
ROFLMAO HAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAH sigged and exalted.
As for the rest of your post, meh.
Petulance. The true hallmark of an internet tough guy.
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I'm surprised the video of the large kid being bullied by the small kid and going mental hasn't been posted yet. Surely that's how all bullying should be solved, with pile drivers?
Prestor Jon wrote: Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
MrDwhitey wrote:I'm surprised the video of the large kid being bullied by the small kid and going mental hasn't been posted yet. Surely that's how all bullying should be solved, with pile drivers?
Agreed, lol
Monster Rain wrote:
Petulance. The true hallmark of an internet tough guy.
Petulance? No, I really found that hilarious. I actually posted that quote to my facebook too.
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MrDwhitey wrote:I'm surprised the video of the large kid being bullied by the small kid and going mental hasn't been posted yet. Surely that's how all bullying should be solved, with pile drivers?
Agreed, lol
Fun fact from a former bully: making things physical is usually the wrong route. Not only are we generally popular with students, we tend to be popular with administrators. It is very much a case of win the battle (maybe) and lose the war.
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Monster Rain wrote:That wasn't the part I was referring to, hoss.
Also, I've read more cringe inducing things than that National Review article. But not many.
I think we can all agree that Frank Miniter has a giant forehead.
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Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
I would hope for an administration implemented pile drive system for students. A man can dream.
And that forehead could be used as a landing strip if he were lying down.
Prestor Jon wrote: Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
MrDwhitey wrote:I'm surprised the video of the large kid being bullied by the small kid and going mental hasn't been posted yet. Surely that's how all bullying should be solved, with pile drivers?
Agreed, lol
Fun fact from a former bully: making things physical is usually the wrong route. Not only are we generally popular with students, we tend to be popular with administrators. It is very much a case of win the battle (maybe) and lose the war.
Fun fact from a former victim: this isn't true. At least it wasn't for me, most of the bullies were popular in their own cliques, but with the general population of the school they were kinda meh. Not unpopular, but by no means were they popular and well liked/respected. As for teachers/administrators, I was one of the star students at my school and well loved by all but a handful of the administrators, which was both a blessing and a curse (blessing because I had my ass saved by the teachers more often than not, a curse because it earned me additional ire from my peers as well as the reputation of being a teachers pet).
CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
MrDwhitey wrote:I'm surprised the video of the large kid being bullied by the small kid and going mental hasn't been posted yet. Surely that's how all bullying should be solved, with pile drivers?
Here you go. Truly inspiring stuff.
And here's the interview.
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Also, you seriously bitch people out for wanting their food cooked a certain way because some people don't get food?
Read that comment again. I have nothing against people wanting their food cooked a certain way. Its when they get their food and everyone at the table is enjoying their meal, and the one dick in the corner is sitting there saying "Eh, this steak is terrible, its just way to dry, and look the color and texture is all wrong, and there is a little bit of pink in the center, I wanted medium well and this is clearly medium, and its over seasoned, and yadda yadda yadda." If the steakk is bad, we get it, you can go ahead and say so, its when you spend the entire time we are sitting their eating complaining about it that I have an issue and tell the guy to stfu and deal with it.
I DID. You don't say that, you say complain.
That's not complaining, that's bitching.
Your wording suggested something entirely different than your clarification.
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chaos0xomega wrote:
Fun fact from a former victim: this isn't true. At least it wasn't for me, most of the bullies were popular in their own cliques, but with the general population of the school they were kinda meh. Not unpopular, but by no means were they popular and well liked/respected. As for teachers/administrators, I was one of the star students at my school and well loved by all but a handful of the administrators, which was both a blessing and a curse (blessing because I had my ass saved by the teachers more often than not, a curse because it earned me additional ire from my peers as well as the reputation of being a teachers pet).
If you were as heavily abused as you claim, then you have little credibility when it comes to judging popularity. It is a strange, but predictable, mistress which generally sides with those folk who have groups to begin with; making said folks more popular than those who lack any group.
Also, being a star student doesn't necessarily make administrators love you. Indeed, it often makes them resent you. If you want them to love you, then you do things which help them profit.
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dogma wrote:In this thread: people who have never been psychologically abused.
Personally, I would have contented myself with the fact that unlike all of the donkey-caves that hung around my school (half of them doing one form of drug or another) I actually managed to accomplish something.
And pointed this out in as vicious a way I could (whether subtle or not) any time they tried to start anything.
But then, spite is a very good motivator.
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