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Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Think BoK has got a troll feeding him info.

I agree.

Unfortunately, that troll is GW.

Slackermagee wrote:If this were a political blog, the BoK site would get something akin to a 'clickbait for ad revenue' tag.

He expects people to just believe him and post up? It works the other way around, one person gets pushed off the iceberg first and if the sharks in Nottingham don't get worked up into a froth, the rest follow shark-bait after a day or two.

QFT

Eh. I don't really like the look of those rumours, but I do believe them; they sound v. much like something GW would design.
Just to clarify, it sounds to me like Dreadnoughts are basically getting renamed and slightly different rules, but will allow the use of the old models; like Pariahs & Crypteks/lychguard.

Can someone who's got a BoK account ask Tastytaste if there are legion rules, as the description of the special characters may suggest otherwise.
Also, who's writing it?

Harriticus wrote:1 codex for an entire year is shameful. Especially when one considers the last year has seen 4-5 Fantasy Codex's.

Well, but the year before, when Fantasy 8th was released, they only had one armybook as well. This might well be a patter with similarities for 40K.

2012 6th Edition 40K (and one Codex, see 2010 Fantasy)
2013 Several 40K Codexes and possibly an expansion (see 2011 Fantasy Codexes and Magic-Storm-thingy).

BDJV wrote:Well he posted. http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2012/04/26/network-news-new-csm-codex-rumors

With that said let us get started.

Troops choices will be Chaos Space Marines and Cultists
All Cult Marines are Elites
No new Special Characters
Special Characters will unlock Cult Marines as troops (Kharn for Berserkers and so on)
Typhus makes Cultists into Zombies
Chaos Dreadnaught is removed and replaced with a new unit (like how pariahs were replaced with Lychguard)
CSM now get a Flyer a Mechanical Chaos Dragon (model is done will be part of initial release)
Lesser and Greater Demons are gone
Spawn replaced by “Fell Beast”

I feel like I am missing something…

Oh yeah…
Almost Forgot...
Rules for Traitor Guard are in!

I hope this rumour turns out to be bollocks, this all just sounds daft to me.

If this is going to be a Legions Codex then how will there be no daemons, what will happen to Word Bearers?

I just lost my grain of salt.

Has any credible rumour-guy (or girl) confirmed the Legion-thing?

I keep saying that Legion-codex rumour sounds like net-wishlisting taking on a life on its own (largely because it would require massively changing the existing fluff that states fairly clearly that most Legions are defunct, or at best represented by Renegades that have split with their Legion like Ahriman). But since I am on the record as a fan of Corsairs and Renegades, I only ever get accussed of trolling for brining it up. For other reasons than most, perhaps, but I'd also love to know if someone can pinpoint that "Legion-Codex"-rumour with some precision? Anyone?

AlexHolker wrote:

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Think BoK has got a troll feeding him info.

I agree.

Unfortunately, that troll is GW.

Actually, the key question here is where is he getting his info?

It just looks like an extrapolation of what most people, or those who spend enough time pondering it, think is probably going to happen, rather than 'I know someone in the development team of GW who told me this' - now that would be a real rumour.

The problem is there have been positively zero leaks from GW over recent months, they are closed up tighter than the arsehole of a man who has eaten nothing but bananas for 2 weeks. Unless there are some leaks from the Polish printing company of WD again, or someone gets very brave and decides to leak something (I'm guessing the penalties must be very harsh, considering this hasn't happened) then we are going to continue to behave like beggar children, sifting through the bins with the hope that someone has inadvertently thrown out a packet of crisps with a few crumbs left in the bottom of it.

Or simply making stuff up, in an attempt to get more site traffic, as I think is the case here.

Yes, the guy with a very accurate track record must just be making it up.

Aye.
He knew pretty much what Yak knew for the Necrons (which was itself a VERY comprehensive leak), so it wouldn't surprise me if he's got a reliable source or an early version of the 'dex, as seemed to be the case with the info Yak was given, IMHO.

That it goes inline with much of what's been said by reliable rumour mongers adds credence too.

Hehe this seems like BS, if this was true I may consider selling my chaos.

Mechanical dragon???? Come on seriously, it just seems... not right
No demons, thats just stupid, sorry bye bye word bearers. Unless he means named demons are back in, then this I love.
SC for cult troops? Personally I never use any SC, it's just not my style and so this is my main dealbreaker, that I have to field a SC to get khorne bezerkers as troops. Actually, I guess I don't mind having them as elites again, yeah I can live with this actually.
Fell beasts now? Sounds cooler but, why change the name?

Meh, just my thoughts on it, don't know if I like or hate these rumours if they were true tbh.

Edit: I have now decided I like these rumours As long as I could make traitor guard then GW can have my wallet.

I do not believe they will drop chaos dreadnoughts as they habe always been in every codex since rogue trader and that just seems rather stupid to me. Dropping daemons and what he is saying about sc's is also hard to believe but the rest seems ok to me (give me back my latd XD)

Hi
God I love a good rumor, but its going on forever.

Were not going to really know until one month before, so why stress, just enjoy iy when and if it comes.

unmercifulconker wrote:Hehe this seems like BS, if this was true I may consider selling my chaos...
this is my main dealbreaker, that I have to field a SC to get khorne bezerkers as troops...
Actually, I guess I don't mind having them as elites again, yeah I can live with this actually...
Meh, just my thoughts on it, don't know if I like or hate these rumours if they were true tbh...
Edit: I have now decided I like these rumours

Say whaaa?

GentlemanGuy wrote:I do not believe they will drop chaos dreadnoughts as they habe always been in every codex since rogue trader and that just seems rather stupid to me. Dropping daemons and what he is saying about sc's is also hard to believe but the rest seems ok to me (give me back my latd XD)

BoK wrote: Chaos Dreadnought is removed and replaced with a new unit (like how pariahs were replaced with Lychguard)

The Dreadnought's probably still there, just with a different name and maybe stats etc.

Just Dave wrote:

unmercifulconker wrote:Hehe this seems like BS, if this was true I may consider selling my chaos...
this is my main dealbreaker, that I have to field a SC to get khorne bezerkers as troops...
Actually, I guess I don't mind having them as elites again, yeah I can live with this actually...
Meh, just my thoughts on it, don't know if I like or hate these rumours if they were true tbh...
Edit: I have now decided I like these rumours

Say whaaa?.

Hehe I was going off into my own little world

Just Dave wrote:

The Dreadnought's probably still there, just with a different name and maybe stats etc.

What would the point be though, we have Dreadnoughts already well established in previous codices and Black Library books.

Same as Spawn, I can understand if the Fell Beasts is to be different from Spawn, but if it's just giving it a new poncey name, why bother. We know that a Chaos follower becomes a spawn if he doesn't kick enough or kicks too much ass.

And a Mechanical Dragon... where are they pulling this tonk from?

My level of nerdrage is increasing with every rumour

Chaos Dreadnaught is removed and replaced with a new unit (like how pariahs were replaced with Lychguard)

This conflicts with the rumor of a Chaos Dread being in the starter set.

Breotan wrote:

Chaos Dreadnaught is removed and replaced with a new unit (like how pariahs were replaced with Lychguard)

This conflicts with the rumor of a Chaos Dread being in the starter set.

Maybe they look very similar and so they thought it was a dread?

Pacific wrote:Actually, the key question here is where is he getting his info?

It just looks like an extrapolation of what most people, or those who spend enough time pondering it, think is probably going to happen, rather than 'I know someone in the development team of GW who told me this' - now that would be a real rumour.

BoK have proven themselves to be an accurate source, even if they seem to always be the bearers of bad news. When they say that there's only going to be one codex this year it's possible that they're simply missing some of the information, but when they say GW is continuing to run Chaos into the ground, I believe them.

Breotan wrote:

Chaos Dreadnaught is removed and replaced with a new unit (like how pariahs were replaced with Lychguard)

This conflicts with the rumor of a Chaos Dread being in the starter set.

Not if that Chaos "Dread" in the yet-to-come starter-box is gonna get the new name. But either way, two rumours conflict each other? That's the nature of rumours isn't it?

Mechanical Chaos Dragon and Fell Beasts?

Seems Legit...

Someone at Warseer made a good point (how rare is that!) that the "removal" of Dreadnoughts and Spawn could really just be folding them into broader, highly customizable unit entries.

Like a single Daemon Engine entry that could cover Dreads, Defilers, Mecha Dragons, Rending Ponies or whatever.

Rending Ponies.

Welp.

There goes my budget.

Codex: Ponies is go.

Medium of Death wrote:Mechanical Chaos Dragon and Fell Beasts?

Seems Legit...

Funny thing is, that stuff is so out there that it gains a new kind of credibility all its own. It comes from a known rumour-monger with, presumably, an interest to keep his blog and reputation alive. It may just be an elaborate troll, but if it is, he's gonna sell his "rep" for this for a lifetime of "Lolz, just like the 40K-Chaos Dragon back in 2012? Riiiightt?". Unless its a final sucide-troll-run, I would think he'd not post something quite so outlandish if he hadn't something to back it up.

Mechanical Dragon does sound like the kind of large new kit Chaos likes to produce these days, like the Dreadknight, Tombstalker, Tyrannofex and WHFB stuff.

Mechanical dragon sounds goofy and impractical. Yeah, that kind of sums up Chaos' Saturday morning cartoon villainy, but that just sounds out of left field. I'm hoping I see some misunderstanding with "Special Characters" unlocking cult units as troops, and instead it's just appropriately marked Chaos Lords unlocking them. Finally, the Dreadnought thing is probably just a renaming, like how the Ork Dreadnought became a Deff Dread.

Just Dave wrote:Aye.
He knew pretty much what Yak knew for the Necrons (which was itself a VERY comprehensive leak), so it wouldn't surprise me if he's got a reliable source or an early version of the 'dex, as seemed to be the case with the info Yak was given, IMHO.

Which came first? The rumour from Yakface or BoK?

AlexHolker wrote:BoK have proven themselves to be an accurate source, even if they seem to always be the bearers of bad news. When they say that there's only going to be one codex this year it's possible that they're simply missing some of the information, but when they say GW is continuing to run Chaos into the ground, I believe them.

The problem is that they have been wrong with more than one rumour in the past, so you can't except everything they say as being a done deal.

In conclusion: Really, the OP is nothing new at all, more an attempt to fish for news, and more importantly (for them) just an attempt to get more hits on the site. They've shown in the past that they will do anything to achieve this including plagiarising other people's work from their blogs, then making out if was something written by themselves.

Personally i can believe these rumours even if they are dishearting i mean really GW do you want to make me buy into privateer press all you have to do is say so.
on a more helpful note i do trust BoK as he was pretty direct hit with the greyknights and newcrons but there just seems to be a little....feeling i've got when he says its not the quick fix we want? does this mean that 6th edition going to be bad? bland? boring? i'm really scared in their attempts to change the game their going to break it

I'm...OK with this.

I mean, as an IW player, mechanical dragon sounds awesome!