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Aueritian (SP?) Tecnocracy or whatever the one in Prospero Burns would be awesome. A heavy infantry/TEQ list with big tanks and fancy robots

TheAngrySquig wrote:Aueritian (SP?) Tecnocracy or whatever the one in Prospero Burns would be awesome. A heavy infantry/TEQ list with big tanks and fancy robots

So, Space Marines?

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Huh. I guess that's why they say that. Explains a lot

Testify wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:Aueritian (SP?) Tecnocracy or whatever the one in Prospero Burns would be awesome. A heavy infantry/TEQ list with big tanks and fancy robots

So, Space Marines?

But more shooty oriented. Like if Tau had battlesuits as troops, but they would look cooler

I didn't read all the replies, so this may be redundant, but I read that in the next Chaos codex, there will be Chaos Cultists as an option. These guys will probably be something like IG statwise, but with some Chaos thrown in. As long as the models don't have an electronic voice option, that's fine by me (those of you who have played DoW know what I'm talking about.)

I say that first GW needs to get all their current codices up to date and update the older models. IG still have a lot of crappy kits (Ogryns) that cost too much. Not that anything doesn't cost too much, but that's beside the point.

After that, and if 6th Ed flows better than 5th, should they release new armies.

I, personally, would like to see more variations on Chaos. Yeah, the marks and stuff make them varied, but compared to the Loyalists, they don't have a ton of diversity (ie. codex black templar, blood angel, etc.)

Also, I miss Chapter Traits from the previous SM codex...

zilegil wrote:I still think they should do a Mercs race like Malifaux or Warmachine. It is a bit mainstream and could give you some pretty scary combos but it might be fun.


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clively wrote:I'd like to see a race that we could identify as the "good guys"

Yes, I'm familiar with Grim and his cousin Dark. However, there is simply not a single race currently represented that, IMHO, deserves to run the galaxy.

I tend to play DE and 'crons, so it's not like I actually want to buy that race. Instead, I want to take joy in kicking the snot out of them.

It's just not as much fun enslaving and torturing a race that were already slaves to begin with.

Hmm. Tau?

The Tau are the Mormons of 40k. Brainwashed into believing their way is righteous and all of the slaughtering they do is "For the Greater Good!".

Edit: As in they're Mormons about brainwashed zealots, not the killing part.

More Nazi Space Zombies!!! *sigh*

Barring that, I think a Human race that embraces technology would be cool, but I think it goes against the whole Grim Dark woe is me theme.

I have always yearned for more info on the Interex and I think there are a bunch of like minded fans who wouldn't mind this race to be expounded upon.

Or perhaps a Codex: Minor Races.

I'd settle for the Ad Mech, however.

Then, I'd make my own splinter of the Ad Mech who... BREAK THE BONDS OF TYRANNY and set themselves apart on some lone world with a functioning STC and, and, and...

felixander wrote:

zilegil wrote:I still think they should do a Mercs race like Malifaux or Warmachine. It is a bit mainstream and could give you some pretty scary combos but it might be fun.


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clively wrote:I'd like to see a race that we could identify as the "good guys"

Yes, I'm familiar with Grim and his cousin Dark. However, there is simply not a single race currently represented that, IMHO, deserves to run the galaxy.

I tend to play DE and 'crons, so it's not like I actually want to buy that race. Instead, I want to take joy in kicking the snot out of them.

It's just not as much fun enslaving and torturing a race that were already slaves to begin with.

Hmm. Tau?

The Tau are the Mormons of 40k. Brainwashed into believing their way is righteous and all of the slaughtering they do is "For the Greater Good!".

Edit: As in they're Mormons about brainwashed zealots, not the killing part.

Do you actualy know any mormons? Like, personally? Because if you really did know a couple of mormons, and looked past their religion for the person they are, you'd realise that they aren't that bad. Any religion looks like mad gibberings and old-fashioned, innappropriate ideals if you dig hard enough.

loota boy wrote:

felixander wrote:

zilegil wrote:I still think they should do a Mercs race like Malifaux or Warmachine. It is a bit mainstream and could give you some pretty scary combos but it might be fun.


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clively wrote:I'd like to see a race that we could identify as the "good guys"

Yes, I'm familiar with Grim and his cousin Dark. However, there is simply not a single race currently represented that, IMHO, deserves to run the galaxy.

I tend to play DE and 'crons, so it's not like I actually want to buy that race. Instead, I want to take joy in kicking the snot out of them.

It's just not as much fun enslaving and torturing a race that were already slaves to begin with.

Hmm. Tau?

The Tau are the Mormons of 40k. Brainwashed into believing their way is righteous and all of the slaughtering they do is "For the Greater Good!".

Edit: As in they're Mormons about brainwashed zealots, not the killing part.

Do you actualy know any mormons? Like, personally? Because if you really did know a couple of mormons, and looked past their religion for the person they are, you'd realise that they aren't that bad. Any religion looks like mad gibberings and old-fashioned, innappropriate ideals if you dig hard enough.

i went to school with a mormon. he was weird. he was in our philosophy and ethics class but he pulled out because he was so offended by peoples beliefs.. what a ass

anyway my philsophy teacher who is one of the smartest people i have ever meet before read to us a passage from the bible ( i really wish i could remeber it for you but it was over a year ago now)

but basically there is a word in this passage used 3 times. the first two times mormons interpret it with one meaning and then the thirds time they interpret it with a different meaning. it changes the whole pages meaning.
the whole mormon argument is based of a misread misentepritation. it is a fallacy too do this i cant remeber what one either ( ahah!)

another argument that falls down is that they belive jesus went to america and australia and africa and peopel wrote books about him all over the world. in america they claim to have found some.. the books they MADE ... i mean umm.. found... were made of solid gold weighting more than 200kg-300kg (big tablet kind of thing) and anyway the book is writen in english... which makes no sense cause native maericans didnt know english... but aprently god told them to write it in english... and yeah HOW THE HELL DID ONE GUY JOSEPH SMITH CARRY A 200KG BOOK FROM ONE SIDE OF THE COUNTRY TO THE OTHER!?!

THE ALSO BELIVE THAT WHEN U DIE U BECOME A GOD OF YOUR OWN GALAXY AND THE GOD OF OUR GALAXY IS JUST A DEAD HUMAN WHO IS NOW THE GOD OF THIS GALAXY> they belive you can have more than 1 wife they dont belive in alot of new science and medicine like stem cell research abortions.... oh yeah and they think that "god" lives on a planet close to neptune. yep. neptune...

Its basically a bogus religion that Mr Smith made up so he could be polygamous and get a cult of fanatical followers. Kinda sad actually.

Meanwhile, at the Hall of On Topic,

The Tau codex is rumored to feature two or three new species like the Demiuge (sp?) and a new insectoid species.

I don't think that they need to introduce new armies. They could stand to include a bit more variation within each codex, though.

Split up the Eldar army in two. Like fantasy has High- and Wood Elves. "Craftworld Eldar" and "Death World Eldar" or something. Then you've got the whole set.

I still don't think either of you have actually took the time to talk to mormons. Some of my best friends are mormons. I have neighbors who are mormons. None of them are fanatical cult followers who blow up at the mere idea that someone doesn't like their religion. None of them twist words of every thing they hear about into their own use. Also, mormons aren't polygamous anymore. Anyone who is well-informed on the subject can tell you that. Sure, it all sounds strange when you first hear about it, but who the hell cares? Mormons are nice people in general, and fairly friendly and neighborly.

Personally Lost and the Damned, something like Eye of Terror.

But lets not forget we may be seeing Chaos Legions

Right I thought that they were going to do Codex: Chaos Legions which as supposed to be a mix of Daemons and Chaos marines, as a replacement for both codexes. Then I thought that there was going to be something like Codex: renegades that was more of a mix between IG and marines that didn't have more of the "new" things that both armies have. Probably loosing orders and ATSKNF, but representing those forces that have left the imperium but not turned to chaos.

Chaos Legion: Thousand Sons

all of the other ones can stay in the eye of terror for all i care lol.

ADEPTUS MECHANICUS! That would be awesome. However, just for the lulz, I'd take Blood Ravens. Just so I could field Indrick Boreale and shout SPESS MAHRENS every 5 seconds and annoy everyone.

No need to drop Demons, just fold them back into Chaos Marines like they always were... can also add them into a cult army too. The Sisters have always been a bastard child afterthought army, so there's no need to drop them, lol. They haven't had a proper codex in years so it isn't like they are even on the schedule, let alone holding it up.

Tau seem pretty well established. Not my favorite army aesthetic (Japanese mecha) but they aren't a bad army concept or rules wise.

Sisters could do with a proper release.

Failing that Hrud =p

I don't think Daemons should be dropped at all. They bring a great deal of variation and I know a lot of Daemon players wwho simply aren't interested in other races nearly as much, I doubt GW would turn away all of those players. PLUS, they already make the figures for WHF, not get double use out of the some models?!?

loota boy wrote:I still don't think either of you have actually took the time to talk to mormons. Some of my best friends are mormons. I have neighbors who are mormons. None of them are fanatical cult followers who blow up at the mere idea that someone doesn't like their religion. None of them twist words of every thing they hear about into their own use. Also, mormons aren't polygamous anymore. Anyone who is well-informed on the subject can tell you that. Sure, it all sounds strange when you first hear about it, but who the hell cares? Mormons are nice people in general, and fairly friendly and neighborly.

You seem well informed on the people you know. Between living in 3 different cities in the US I was harassed by them and in two of those cities I was told that my beliefs were lies, despite them not knowing what I believed. I'll agree that a minority can ruin the majority. I have met plenty of Mormons and have had different experiences than you. And saying that Mormons can or cant' do this or that is wrong because different sects believe different things (And that goes both way about fanatical and polygamy in favor and against them). I am well informed on the subject, just because I disagree with you doesn't mean otherwise. Nevertheless we have different opinions on the same topic (and that's never happened before on the internet ), but I agree we went too far OT, so I will leave it as it may. To each their own, I meant no offense to your friends or neighbors.

I agree, fold Daemons back into the Chaos codex. Keep all their HQs and stuff.

It would be a monster of a codex but thats ok. 1 product, many people buy

In MY perfect world the codexes would be structured like this:

Space Marines
Imperial Guard
Inquisition with the ability to field Sisters or Guard as troops and Marines/Deathwatch or Grey Knights as elites, with stats in the book.
Eldar
Dark Eldar
Orks
Chaos
Necrons

Then the books would have supplement books, ie more money for GW, that flesh out niche armies in a fashion similar to the Angels of Death, Craftworld: Eldar and Codex: Catachans books were.

Examples include:
Marines of Every Flavour, Guard Regiments of Various Tastes, Legion lore for Chaos lovers, Ork Klan books. Maybe even one for each of the specific Ordos.

Failing, that, I wish FW would do more standalone armylist variants.

Armies I'd like to see changed in 6e:

Order:

1. The Inquisition becomes represented by 3 codex's, Xenos (Deathwatch), Malleus (GK's), and Hereticus (Sob's).

2. IG: I'd like to see what happened with SM's happen with the IG, where it's one thing to be in the IG, it's another thing entirely to be in the DKOK, Cadian, or Valhallan armies because they get different mechanic bonuses (DKOK = Static Defense, Cadia = Faster more mobile armies, Valhalla = Swarms of cheap infantry and stratagems revolving around massed artillery barrages.), but can always refer to the standard IG codex.

3. Eldar are split into exodites and craftworld codex's.

4. The addition of the Ad Mechs stand-alone codex.

Destruction:

1. The addition of Traitor Guard. It's been far too long that they have been represented in the lore, but only partially represented in the game.

2. Chaos Space Marines need to be A. Divided into 4 much more distinct followings, and should really be fit into a codex about the size of the current SM codex. (So each God should have more options to choose from.) B. Chaos undivided should remain a strong contender by continuing to play off of all 4 God's strengths.

I also think that's about all the tampering GW can handle with their IP atm, adding completely new races (Like Rogue Traders - which would be an awesome race imho) would negate the long overdue changes and additions GW has been backlogged with because everyone would be trying to play a brand new race over the updated ones. Like myself, they probably won't be able to pick and choose to play more than one at a time either, because of how much a new army is probably going to cost in the new edition as well. This is why I'd like to see some division of most of the armies we already own over ones that have entirely different models.

DemetriDominov wrote:Armies I'd like to see changed in 6e:

Order:

1. The Inquisition becomes represented by 3 codex's, Xenos (Deathwatch), Malleus (GK's), and Hereticus (Sob's).

2. IG: I'd like to see what happened with SM's happen with the IG, where it's one thing to be in the IG, it's another thing entirely to be in the DKOK, Cadian, or Valhallan armies because they get different mechanic bonuses (DKOK = Static Defense, Cadia = Faster more mobile armies, Valhalla = Swarms of cheap infantry and stratagems revolving around massed artillery barrages.), but can always refer to the standard IG codex.

3. Eldar are split into exodites and craftworld codex's.

4. The addition of the Ad Mechs stand-alone codex.

Destruction:

1. The addition of Traitor Guard. It's been far too long that they have been represented in the lore, but only partially represented in the game.

2. Chaos Space Marines need to be A. Divided into 4 much more distinct followings, and should really be fit into a codex about the size of the current SM codex. (So each God should have more options to choose from.) B. Chaos undivided should remain a strong contender by continuing to play off of all 4 God's strengths.

I also think that's about all the tampering GW can handle with their IP atm, adding completely new races (Like Rogue Traders - which would be an awesome race imho) would negate the long overdue changes and additions GW has been backlogged with because everyone would be trying to play a brand new race over the updated ones. Like myself, they probably won't be able to pick and choose to play more than one at a time either, because of how much a new army is probably going to cost in the new edition as well. This is why I'd like to see some division of most of the armies we already own over ones that have entirely different models.

And you would expect this to all happen in your lifetime?

Adeptus Arbities.

Brother SRM wrote:The Deathwatch don't need a codex, you can already make a solid Deathwatch list with Sternguard. They use almost the exact same rules. I'd be down for Ad Mech or a return of Lost and the Damned or Genestealer Cults.

I disagree with this. The basic story of the Deathwatch is known yes but, that's it. More over, rules wise it isn't easy to try and stern guard. Also, the Deathwatch coming from different chapters means that their rules should be varried based on every member hails from a differ doctorine. Also, as to what sort of organization and equipment they use. I really want to see them in 6th edition. Their history, how long a member serves with Ordos, and the rules that they should follow. The only rules that can be found come form an article in chapter approved back in 4th edition. Also, the tau came out towards the tail end of 3rd edition.

Kiryu Mk 3 wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:The Deathwatch don't need a codex, you can already make a solid Deathwatch list with Sternguard. They use almost the exact same rules. I'd be down for Ad Mech or a return of Lost and the Damned or Genestealer Cults.

I disagree with this. The basic story of the Deathwatch is known yes but, that's it. More over, rules wise it isn't easy to try and stern guard. Also, the Deathwatch coming from different chapters means that their rules should be varried based on every member hails from a differ doctorine. Also, as to what sort of organization and equipment they use. I really want to see them in 6th edition. Their history, how long a member serves with Ordos, and the rules that they should follow. The only rules that can be found come form an article in chapter approved back in 4th edition. Also, the tau came out towards the tail end of 3rd edition.

The problem with Deathwatch is the rarity of them assembling as an entire army.

I think Traitor Guard or Adeptus Mechanicus both are:

1) Not another Marine dex
2) Field actual armies

Akroma06 wrote:Right I thought that they were going to do Codex: Chaos Legions which as supposed to be a mix of Daemons and Chaos marines, as a replacement for both codexes. Then I thought that there was going to be something like Codex: renegades that was more of a mix between IG and marines that didn't have more of the "new" things that both armies have. Probably loosing orders and ATSKNF, but representing those forces that have left the imperium but not turned to chaos.

I say they do some consolidation. Combined CSM and CD codexes into a big chaos codex with traitor guard tossed in. Perhaps abandon an SM codex simply to allow focus on other codexes, and as I have suggested for a while, make a single inquisition codex.


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Unit1126PLL wrote:

Kiryu Mk 3 wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:The Deathwatch don't need a codex, you can already make a solid Deathwatch list with Sternguard. They use almost the exact same rules. I'd be down for Ad Mech or a return of Lost and the Damned or Genestealer Cults.

I disagree with this. The basic story of the Deathwatch is known yes but, that's it. More over, rules wise it isn't easy to try and stern guard. Also, the Deathwatch coming from different chapters means that their rules should be varried based on every member hails from a differ doctorine. Also, as to what sort of organization and equipment they use. I really want to see them in 6th edition. Their history, how long a member serves with Ordos, and the rules that they should follow. The only rules that can be found come form an article in chapter approved back in 4th edition. Also, the tau came out towards the tail end of 3rd edition.

The problem with Deathwatch is the rarity of them assembling as an entire army.

I think Traitor Guard or Adeptus Mechanicus both are:

1) Not another Marine dex
2) Field actual armies

Honestly one could use grey knight rules pretty nicely, perhaps use psybolt ammunition and maybe some fancy weapons with your squads while simply ignoring psychic powers.

While not a bad idea, it just doesn't sit well with me to do that.

While I would literally kill someone for a good Lost and the Damned codex, I think they need to update or consolidate the armies they do have. GW already has 16 books out (7 of which are space marine FYI).

And demons is not a new race.