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mikhaila wrote:

Deadshot wrote:I'll be playing 2 games specially designed for flyers, on the 9th and 23rd June respectively and will try to squeeze in a few more games of 5th as I can. After that I will round up anyone who likes 5th over 6th and try to convince GW staff to let us play it.

Just to play Devils Advocate here, but why would a GW manager want to encourage a bunch of people who don't want to, or can't afford to buy the new book? When 6th comes out, that has got to be the game given priority in a GW store, not 5th. I'd just try to get in games of 6th with someone that has a rulebook.

Cause he's dead on?

jbunny wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:I'd wait until I read the rules before doomsaying.

Hi, you must be new to the internet.

I've been on forums for a very long time, and I still don't understand why people feel the compulsion to go all Chicken Little every single time there's the slightest chance something might not go 100% the way you want to. I'm not even an overly optimistic person here, I just don't see the point in bitching and moaning about something that, as far as the population here is concerned, doesn't exist yet. I'm fine to read dissenting/praising opinions of the rules once they're out and people have actually read them.

SRM,

You actually DO understand the reason people feel that compulsion. Stupid people fear change. They fear it because they don't understand it, or themselves. Then to provide themselves with some measure of comfort, they doomsay the failure of said change in hopes that it will go away.

But you knew that.

G. Whitenbeard wrote:

tetrisphreak wrote: Im organizing a combat patrol 2-week event at my FLGS, with the winner receiving a new 6th Ed book when they arrive.

That is a phenomenal idea. I might have to pitch a similar idea to the owner of my FLGS.

We are using the adepticon 2012 combat patrol rules (available on their site), with buy-in being dependent on the # of participants. Games can be played any time during store hours, using score sheets to keep track. Win - 3 points, draw-2 points, and losses score 1 point. Pretty simple and easy to manage. Good luck should you choose to get one running at your store!


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Archo wrote:6th Edition will be released before July... Trust me


My sources are very reliable.

Before July as in, June 30? Because that's pretty much a given with June 23 as the white dwarf release.

If they are in warehouses already...people have access to them...people...with scanners...hurr durr.

I can't wait to get a first look! Friend's going to get the big book anyway at release but the sooner I get a first look...the better!

matphat wrote:SRM,

You actually DO understand the reason people feel that compulsion. Stupid people fear change. They fear it because they don't understand it, or themselves. Then to provide themselves with some measure of comfort, they doomsay the failure of said change in hopes that it will go away.

But you knew that.

He's also calling himself a SPESS MAHREN, so...

ALL kidding aside, let's try to avoid insulting anyone, even in a roundabout way, OK?

Agreed Alpha. I shouldn't get drawn in like that. I'll chill out.

pretre wrote:

Archo wrote:6th Edition will be released before July... Trust me


My sources are very reliable.

Never trust someone who has to say 'Trust me' with their statement.

Unless he is the Doctor....

Taeken wrote:

pretre wrote:

Archo wrote:6th Edition will be released before July... Trust me


My sources are very reliable.

Never trust someone who has to say 'Trust me' with their statement.

Unless he is the Doctor....

"Trust me" and "Trust me, I'm the Doctor" are two very different statements.

Personally, I am stoked for the new edition! I enjoy cracking open a new rules set and trying to break it.

Brother SRM wrote:

jbunny wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:I'd wait until I read the rules before doomsaying.

Hi, you must be new to the internet.

I've been on forums for a very long time, and I still don't understand why people feel the compulsion to go all Chicken Little every single time there's the slightest chance something might not go 100% the way you want to. I'm not even an overly optimistic person here, I just don't see the point in bitching and moaning about something that, as far as the population here is concerned, doesn't exist yet. I'm fine to read dissenting/praising opinions of the rules once they're out and people have actually read them.

I hope you realize that I was just pointing out that this is just how the internet works. Personally I'm not looking forward to 6th, but I will buy the book, read it, and then decide if I want to play 6th or keep with 5th.

Leth wrote:
Well before the lockout I would check the rumors every few months, maybe. Now I check at least once a day hoping to see something new

tetrisphreak wrote:The tension is palpable. All this waiting to read the new rules is seriously getting to me, much in the way Christmas excites my children for all of December.

Wow, it's almost like GWs policy is doing what it's meant to!

Lorizael wrote:Wow, it's almost like GWs policy is doing what it's meant to!

Maybe for some.

I generally don't waste the energy getting excited based on internet rumours. Yes, some people are getting excited now, with the vague rumours that we have about 6th. But how many more would be getting excited if GW had actually put some effort into hyping this over the last couple of months?

There's no point planning for 6th at this point, because we still don't actually know for sure. If nothing else, that's bloody annoying for anyone trying to organise events.

Can you imagine if they'd spent the past 3 months hyping up the next edition of their best selling product in WD? They could have tied the new flyers into a 'sneak peak' of the new flyer rules. They could have used April, May and June to get people ready to go for 6th Ed - maybe even a battle report in that final week between a Dark Angel and Chaos Force (hint hint!). But no. We won't hear squat out of them 'til 10 days prior.

Games Workshop PLC: "Marketing is for idiots!"

H.B.M.C. wrote:Can you imagine if they'd spent the past 3 months hyping up the next edition of their best selling product in WD?

Imagine there's no rumors, it's easy if you try
No vague hints before us, released by some guy
Imagine all the gamers
Playing for today

Imagine there's sneak previews, it isn't hard to do
No need to leak or pirate and no castings too
Imagine all the gamers
Playing games in peace

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday GW'll join us
And the hobby will game as one

Imagine no price increases, I wonder if you can
No need for Swap or eBay; a solid business plan
Imagine all the gamers
Buying from the stores

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday GW'll join us
And the hobby will game as one

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
Take my hand GW, join us
And the hobby will game, will game as one

It will be fun to see how the new edition changes army mechanics and the usefulness of different styles of play and units. It will (hopfully)present new challenges for already powerful armies under good players and maybe breath new life into some armies and/or units. As a newb I'm excited because I've only really been actively playing for the last year and a half or so, so I'm excited to start a fresh edition and play it through. i'm a little worried because there are some things about 5th edition 40k that I really prefer to fantasy and if any of the fantasy bound rumors are true I'll have some pills to swallow but shaking things up a little should be good for the game. Extended mission combination just as an example. There is also a glimmer of hope that as games workshop ages through editions it works out more and more refined and precise rule sets and get better and better at serving it's customer base. Granted like any company progress will remain behind the curve of what people want but that's just how it goes.

Lorizael wrote:

Leth wrote:
Well before the lockout I would check the rumors every few months, maybe. Now I check at least once a day hoping to see something new

tetrisphreak wrote:The tension is palpable. All this waiting to read the new rules is seriously getting to me, much in the way Christmas excites my children for all of December.

Wow, it's almost like GWs policy is doing what it's meant to!

You mean to have the FLGS clear out their GW stock to make room for other games. That is what my local store is doing, and they had an amazing selection of GW including everything from Epic to Warmaster.

oh boy.... hilarious That needs a youtube video
But can you really imagine?

Personally The release of a new edition doesn't scare me nor does it make me think that I should just keep playing an outdated edition because it's *better*

I have been playing this game through all but the rogue trader edition and there are things that I like and dislike about every one of them. I'm sure this one will be no different!
New challenges, new models and new stuff to mess around with Doesn't sound like a bad thing to me!

logg_frogg wrote:oh boy.... hilarious That needs a youtube video
But can you really imagine?

You'll need to get someone else to do the musical bits. You really don't wanna see me sing.

matphat wrote:SRM,

You actually DO understand the reason people feel that compulsion. Stupid people fear change. They fear it because they don't understand it, or themselves. Then to provide themselves with some measure of comfort, they doomsay the failure of said change in hopes that it will go away.

But you knew that.

Eh... I welcome the new edition. If only because I am hoping that they will at least attempt at right intelligible rules. I have quit playing 5th for about 7 to 8 months now. I would happily go back to playing 40k if the rules are awesome. But, 5th was just full of grey areas and what-not and it really killed my enthusiasm for the game. I'm sure 6th will peak my interests again. But, I am sure that I will ultimately be disappointed due to shoddy rules. After all, this is GW we are talking about here. You know I'm right...

I got two tournaments this month that I am going to in preparation for Nova this fall. Whats cool is that one of them is on the 30th so maybe if the book comes out then we can shoot the gak about the new rules while playing.

pretre wrote:

logg_frogg wrote:oh boy.... hilarious That needs a youtube video
But can you really imagine?

You'll need to get someone else to do the musical bits. You really don't wanna see me sing.

I don't think seeing you sing would be the problem...

Anyway, the cat's out of the bag, clearly.

Odd that GW hasn't at least told us that everything we've heard so far is a lie.

So the Chaos Terminators Masterclass painting class that is being held at Warhammer World on September 1, 2012 will be to paint the ones from the starter box?

Not to derail I just saw that date and thought it was strange to have a "how to paint chaos" out of nowhere. It was the first What's New in a while.

Playing one more tournament with 5th and looking forward to a new ruleset, played 5th from start to finish.

matphat wrote:SRM,

You actually DO understand the reason people feel that compulsion. Stupid people fear change. They fear it because they don't understand it, or themselves. Then to provide themselves with some measure of comfort, they doomsay the failure of said change in hopes that it will go away.

But you knew that.

Way to flippantly dismiss the very reasonable concerns (though admittedly not always reasonably stated) of a heavily invested fan-base. Games Workshop's recent track record with edition changes isn't exactly stellar, and for people that enjoy what they already have, the possibility of losing that game (or active support for it) is something to be concerned about. Don't try to categorize everyone who isn't excited or optimistic about the upcoming edition as "stupid," it just makes you look like some sort of internet troll.

eldartau1987 wrote:Personally, I am stoked for the new edition! I enjoy cracking open a new rules set and trying to break it.

So what do you do with it beyond the first hour?

Alpharius wrote:Odd that GW hasn't at least told us that everything we've heard so far is a lie.

Isn't this usually the point where GW starts telling us that nothing will change and all our armies will still be completely valid?

Then we'll know for sure that some things we've been told are lies!

Kurce wrote:

Ascalam wrote:if i did that, my clean slate would be 7th :(

I'm getting a last few games in with 5th, and hoping 6th doesn't suck ...

As sad as it is to say, we are probably going to be disappointed. I was exciting about getting into Fantasy when 8th came out. Then I realized the game was 100% random and your strategy does not matter at all because of how random it is. I bet 6th is going to mirror 8th and will be the same way. Hell, I remember hearing rumors that your psychic powers are going to be randomly determined now. Not sure if those were dispelled or not but the game just keeps getting more and more random which makes the game much worse in my book.

Clearly it will be terrible. Let me know how much you want to sell your armies for?


Seriously, the game has a lot of randomness in it now - being a good player is about managing this to desirable results.

pretre wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:Can you imagine if they'd spent the past 3 months hyping up the next edition of their best selling product in WD?

Imagine there's no rumors, it's easy if you try
No vague hints before us, released by some guy
Imagine all the gamers
Playing for today

Imagine there's sneak previews, it isn't hard to do
No need to leak or pirate and no castings too
Imagine all the gamers
Playing games in peace

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday GW'll join us
And the hobby will game as one

Imagine no price increases, I wonder if you can
No need for Swap or eBay; a solid business plan
Imagine all the gamers
Buying from the stores

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday GW'll join us
And the hobby will game as one

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
Take my hand GW, join us
And the hobby will game, will game as one

Bravo! <The Hamster holds up a lit cigarette lighter.>

Unfortunately, I doubt GW sees things the same way as you do, sir.

Heh, I don't know that I believe or want all those things.