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It's a thread called rage quit.


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And reading comments, I hope more and more of you do. Happy to buy your probably net-listed armies for 1/4th cost


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There are threads to discuss and critique GW and the new changes. They don't start with the title Rage Quit? This is simply a GW bash post.


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 Boniface wrote:
So we've had the rules well and truly leaked now.

It's just nonsense and I don't want to continue to support a game this badly made.

Does anyone else want to rage quit with me?

How much can I reasonably put my Tau up on eBay for?
I have a partial army in Farsight enclave paint
I have 24 firewarriors 2 painted, some partially, all basecoated
10 pathfinders painted
3 broadsides (HYMP, SMS) 1 painted
Devilfish basecoated
Skyray/Hammerhead basecoated
3 crisis suits basecoated
Farsight Partially

I'll give you $75

 Pyeatt wrote:
It's a thread called rage quit.


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And reading comments, I hope more and more of you do. Happy to buy your probably net-listed armies for 1/4th cost

you really don't know what you're talking about. You do realize that 40k is having problems, right? Even if the problems don't effect you, you should at least realize that some people are having trouble with the game's rules. I was a fluffy casual player and these problems effected me more than they did competitive players. Your inaccurate generalizations do no good for the community or this discussion.

I didn't realize this was a discussion. Seems like an auction. Offer still stands, I'll pay 25% value for anything good.

This is a forum. The entire point of it is discussion. You might not *like* what this thread is about (as is evidence by the temper tantrum you're throwing in it), but it still contains discussion.

If you have issues with it, argue against the premises and point out why rage quitting is absurd. Otherwise, try to do something productive with your time.

My only suggestion to the rage-quitters is this: Don't sell your stuff. You probably won't make your money back (unless you're really good at painting), much less make enough to re-buy stuff when you want to get back into the game in 4 years and GW has hiked up prices even more. I had a friend who played 4th ed Tau, and is just now getting back into the game. Things are more...expensive now. Hang on to those models, put them in storage maybe; if someday the game becomes fun for you again they are there.

If you join "Operation Pitchfork" you'll probably want your models.

Just remember that someday you might move to a new place, talk to someone and find that they have a Blood Angels army, and are interested in a game. If you've invested in this game to this point, then you know you'll hate yourself then for putting your beautiful crisis suits on ebay years ago.

 TychoTerziev wrote:
I ragequit after few games of 7th edition. It felt quite liberating. A week ago I wanted to go back for the sake of the old times , but then the rumors of the eldar codex appeared. Now I am not so sure that I want to burn 600-800 bucks for a game with a completely messed up balance. I still like some of the models, most of the fluff and the epic feel it has, but for this amount of money I can buy a whole new faction for Malifaux or Infinity. Yes, they are low model count skirmish games, but that doesn't mean that they are less fun. In the end ,gameplay is what matters to me the most and GW fails to deliver again. Why am I writing this? Because I am frustrated. I want to like the game, but GW's absurd decisions keeps on turning me off again and again. Fooled me once..... No amount of "accept the challenge scrub" , "It has always beеn broken" and "use house rules" can make me feel any less frustrated, because I am seeing the total destruction of an IP that I used to love passionately. I cannot support that. At least I can voice my frustration.

This. Dropped the game at the start of sixth, but recently came back because I miss my Orks. A bit dismayed to see all this crazy Eldar stuff, and apparantly Necrons were stupid broken too... wondering if its a waste of time to get back into it

My advice to OP is to take a hiatus and play other games, or even Quit but don't go so far as to sell your models - as the quoted post says it can be rather liberating to do so, but you might regret it if you go the whole nine yards.

I used to give a serious gak about all the damage GW was doing to their game and how terrible the balance was. After dropping the game completely for six months, and playing the fantastic other rulesets out there instead, I can look at all this new broken nonsense and not really care - because its not like any of that is going to touch the table I'm playing at lol.

Play 40k for the fluff, with people who want to play for the same reason you do. But if your looking for a competitive game, go play something else - Infinity, X-Wing and SAGA get my votes, but theres a whole world of fantastic games out there

Edit: With all the "can I buy your models durrr dur" I see itt, would be very interested if its possible to get a graph of dakkadakka's 40k forum activity over the past year or so. If its anything like my local meta its dropped into a deep, dark crevasse that it will never recover from

I sold both my armies and used that money to buy into Warmachine and Infinity. I don't regret it for a second.

 Trondheim wrote:
Why stop playing a game because of a single codex? Play a version you enjoyed?

Well, if you were a Tau or Eldar player then the decision was pretty much made for you by the community. No sense trying to play a game you're effectively not "allowed" to play anyway.

As for playing older versions, that doesn't work for Tau players because 1) people don't want your army in the game at all, in any capacity, and 2) there's no older rules for stuff like the riptide to fall back on, so if you're a fan of that particular model then you just can't use it anymore. And I imagine if you're an Eldar player people will still complain because your old book was "broken", too.

Quitting is just easier. No fething whining to deal with anymore, no more money wasted on crap that will gather dust.

 jreilly89 wrote:
Eldar are stupidly OP, but Tau are fine? Nice justifications there.

I don't recall the OP ever saying Tau were fine. Think you guys are letting your Tau hate blind you again and putting words in the OP's mouth.

 raiden wrote:
No, the problem is not enough will. If the players made a loud enough noise, even GW would have to listen.

I think you're being pretty optimistic, there. GW is the kind of company that won't care even if it did hurt their wallet. Kirby's fine, he's got all the money he'll ever need, and I get the feeling he would be just fine sitting back and watching the company burn rather than admit that he did anything wrong. He's got nothing to lose.

ITT:

Tau player quits WH40K after enjoying 6th edition a lot citing 'codex imbalance'.

Don't let the door... etc.

I agree that the rules for 40K feel like they were written by someone that was only tangentially connected to the hobby but you should still keep your models. The fluff really hurts to read sometimes (I shouted 'Bob the Builder, in Space!' multiple times while reading the updated necron fluff), and the rules make no sense (thematically pricing the Lord of Skulls to 888 pts when it is really weak). However A lot of the older 40K fluff is beautiful stories of heroism and fun in a dark universe where heroes and villains pop up everywhere. I keep my favourite kustomised killa kan with a scratchbuilt rokkit launcha and better legs on my desk even though I can never field it on account of its uselessness.

I play with a small group of people and we generally try to keep the gak in our lockers. The rules really hurt tournaments and pick up games, but with you and your buds it can still work. If there are any real problems, then don't play with someone trying to claim that it is reasonable to bring multiple riptides to a small game.

I respect your opinions and desire to quit, but 40K has one of the most interesting settings. Keep your stuff, and remember, the door is always open for you to return.

 Pyeatt wrote:
I didn't realize this was a discussion. Seems like an auction. Offer still stands, I'll pay 25% value for anything good.

So you're only buying Eldar?

Anyone got a land raider?
I need to counter that S6 jetbike spam

 Pyeatt wrote:
Nah, he just stopped by for a good old GW bashing. He's not the only one on the thread, either

lol, it's the best part. imagine if they go under, that will be a glorious thread. everyone will be in lapping up the tears of the fanboys.

Did the Eldar Codex just break the game over its Knee? Yes.

Does that mean I have to Play against Eldar at my FLGS? No.

Does this mean I have to use Wavebike / Wraithguard / Wraithknight Spam when I play Eldar? No.

Has this wrecked the tournament meta? Not really - If you play at tournaments, you should be used to people trying to cheese their way to victory. At least now it is easier to spot.

Don't rage quite, just enjoy painting and modeling for a while. A new codex and BRB will be out in under two years anyway...

I'm totally ragequitting Warhammer 40,000 over the Eldar Codex.

Already burned my codices, and am bashing my miniatures with a hammer ( a warhammer ) as I write.

 Runic wrote:
I'm totally ragequitting Warhammer 40,000 over the Eldar Codex.

Already burned my codices, and am bashing my miniatures with a hammer ( a warhammer ) as I write.

The point of this post being...

I should start an angry marines army then it is OK

Apparently, my wraithguard are broken now. Funny.

I have like 1000 points of Eldar, so it's not a big loss either way. Farseer + 20 Guardians with two ShuriCannon platforms + 2 Wraithlords + 5 Wraithguard + 5 Rangers.

I have no intentions of buying the 7e codex, I guess, so that helps. At an absolute stretch I'd pirate it, but probably not even that. I have no intentions of feeding GW. I am still buying FW, mind you, but that is because FW are not doing their absolute best to be the 'evil corporation' stereotype.

If people were getting rubbish service and goods at supermarket X and supermarket Y around the corner was offering better service and better goods, where would you go?

Most people would say Y

So why should wargames be any different?

Your time is precious. You have to file, glue, undercoat, and then paint your models. That doesn't take 5 minutes. Then you have to get your army to the shop/club, find an opponent, and then set up your forces. That doesn't take 5 minutes.

There is nothing more disheartening than going through all that, and then 5 minutes into the game, you're removing half your army from the table...

You want to lose a game because your opponent was better, or because a tactical gamble backfired in the last turn.

You do not want to lose a game because of a broken rule set.

I mentioned historicals earlier, but there are some good sci-fi games as well. Great models, better customer service, and and companies that appreciate feedback.

Dakka is doing its own game. And unlike GW, beta rules will be free, and yakface and legoburner will welcome feedback about the rules and modify accordingly. They have a great universe, and the models look first class.

I'm not promoting this because I'm part of the team (I'm not and never will be) but because I want to show people there is an alternative to 40k

And I say that as somebody who loved playing 40k for years.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
If people were getting rubbish service and goods at supermarket X and supermarket Y around the corner was offering better service and better goods, where would you go?

Clearly you'd go onto the Internet and find someplace where you can bitch about Supermarket X to your heart's content.

The big problem that most competition-focused arguments about wargames dodge is that 40k is the market leader and is vastly more widespread than anything else. I walk into a game store in a strange city, I can be pretty sure of getting a game of 40k, I can't be sure of getting a game of anything else. To extend your supermarket analogy supermarket X may have rubbish service and goods by comparison to supermarket Y but when you buy a thing at supermarket Y you could easily be getting a really pretty plastic display piece that you can't actually eat.

The other problem is that there isn't anything else that is actually completely and totally better than 40k on every possible front; nobody's gotten as widespread, nobody has the sheer body of lore, nobody has replicated the volume and quality of the models. The only thing I can point to that I can say with a straight face has comparable or better sculpts to 40k is Infinity, and they're all single-pose pewter models without the flexibility/customizability I take for granted in a product range that lets me grab parts out of a dozen different kits and slap them together into one model I can be guaranteed nobody has built before me that looks in-setting consistent.

I can't and won't dispute that people have made better games than 40k and have better customer relations, because doing so would be silly when I've mostly abandoned 40k for WMH and Infinity, but 40k has points in its favour, and ragequitting noisily because the game outweighs the models/lore for you and asking why anyone in their right mind would play 40k when everything else is so much better isn't going to change the fact that some people like the game (silly as it is) or think the models are cool enough to give the game some leeway.


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 Runic wrote:
I'm totally ragequitting Warhammer 40,000 over the Eldar Codex.

Already burned my codices, and am bashing my miniatures with a hammer ( a warhammer ) as I write.

The point of this post being...

Exhibitionism.

Of all the following 40k has to have the most melodramatic

 Grey Knight Janitor wrote:
Of all the following 40k has to have the most melodramatic

You should have seen the rage over the Shifting Stones FAQ for Hordes a couple of months back, that was pretty melodramatic. Doesn't happen every two weeks the way it does with 40k but that's because other games don't change as much.

 Grey Knight Janitor wrote:
Of all the following 40k has to have the most melodramatic

Agreed. Not as if this sort of thing happens all of the time, is it?

(For the curious the FAQ said you could only teleport a model once for a total of 8" instead of chaining three teleports for 24" of movement, the Internet exploded in a frenzy of "THIS SUCKS I'M SELLING CIRCLE", and actual Circle players shrugged and got on with their day without one incredibly, incredibly situational trick that 97% of them had never been in a situation where it would have been possible, let alone made a difference)

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 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
If people were getting rubbish service and goods at supermarket X and supermarket Y around the corner was offering better service and better goods, where would you go?

Clearly you'd go onto the Internet and find someplace where you can bitch about Supermarket X to your heart's content.

The big problem that most competition-focused arguments about wargames dodge is that 40k is the market leader and is vastly more widespread than anything else. I walk into a game store in a strange city, I can be pretty sure of getting a game of 40k, I can't be sure of getting a game of anything else. To extend your supermarket analogy supermarket X may have rubbish service and goods by comparison to supermarket Y but when you buy a thing at supermarket Y you could easily be getting a really pretty plastic display piece that you can't actually eat.

The other problem is that there isn't anything else that is actually completely and totally better than 40k on every possible front; nobody's gotten as widespread, nobody has the sheer body of lore, nobody has replicated the volume and quality of the models. The only thing I can point to that I can say with a straight face has comparable or better sculpts to 40k is Infinity, and they're all single-pose pewter models without the flexibility/customizability I take for granted in a product range that lets me grab parts out of a dozen different kits and slap them together into one model I can be guaranteed nobody has built before me that looks in-setting consistent.

I can't and won't dispute that people have made better games than 40k and have better customer relations, because doing so would be silly when I've mostly abandoned 40k for WMH and Infinity, but 40k has points in its favour, and ragequitting noisily because the game outweighs the models/lore for you and asking why anyone in their right mind would play 40k when everything else is so much better isn't going to change the fact that some people like the game (silly as it is) or think the models are cool enough to give the game some leeway.


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 ImAGeek wrote:

 Runic wrote:
I'm totally ragequitting Warhammer 40,000 over the Eldar Codex.

Already burned my codices, and am bashing my miniatures with a hammer ( a warhammer ) as I write.

The point of this post being...

Exhibitionism.

I agree that getting a game with these other games can be hard in a strange city or FLGS, but it's a chicken and the egg situation.

You say that GW is the market leader, which is correct, but the only way to get more people playing these other games is getting people buying them and spreading the word.

Chicken and the egg

X-wing is a good alternative. Cheap start up costs, massive, established universe, and of course, everybody knows Star wars more than they do GW.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

I agree that getting a game with these other games can be hard in a strange city or FLGS, but it's a chicken and the egg situation.

You say that GW is the market leader, which is correct, but the only way to get more people playing these other games is getting people buying them and spreading the word.

Chicken and the egg

X-wing is a good alternative. Cheap start up costs, massive, established universe, and of course, everybody knows Star wars more than they do GW.

As someone who's having a rocky start getting an Infinity community off the ground I can commiserate.

(Though I'm also grumpy about XWing. I was promised something that played like AI, I ended up with something where manoeuver is almost completely irrelevant and I lose every game because everyone else's net lists are stronger than mine; I was under the impression that something recommended as an alternative to 40k was supposed to not have the exact same problems)

MarsNZ wrote:
Tau player quits WH40K after enjoying 6th edition a lot citing 'codex imbalance'.

Makes sense to me. Codex imbalance affects the people who play the "OP" armies just as much as anyone. It isn't fun playing a broken army and either not being able to get games in at all, or feeling like you only won because of the strength of your codex when you do.

Also, you're assuming the OP "enjoyed 6th edition a lot" because I don't see that in their posts. It's possible they could have noticed early on that the game wasn't particularly well-balanced, which naturally wouldn't be very hard if your own army won the "power lottery" shortly before buying into the game, and the new Eldar codex is just the last straw. Had I been a new Tau player coming into 6th I'd probably think the game was bullgak at this point and be wanting to quit, too. I don't like how armies get either a super-powered update or nerfed into the dirt and made painfully boring or just plain unplayable, all seemingly at random. There's also the realization that armies are now on 2-year update cycles, and with the books being hideously expensive as they are and there being no reason to update armies that quickly (Eldar were a strong army, why do they need a new book?), that alone is a good enough reason to quit.

 the Signless wrote:
I respect your opinions and desire to quit, but 40K has one of the most interesting settings. Keep your stuff, and remember, the door is always open for you to return.

Apparently not, judging from all the "lol, Tau player, good riddance!"-type comments he's getting.

You may well be right, we shall see, but this thread does remind me of the 'let's all rage-quit or boycott GW because of the lousy 'nid codex" thread.


Around the same time, as the 'rage quit tyranids' threads, jy2 posted a thread which looked on the bright side.

The first thread died, and the second one has 300 odd pages. We've kept playing tyranids, hardly changed our list (bought a venomthrope, swapped out an extra flyrant) and had lots of fun in the meantime.

yes, GW do bizarre strokes, yes they do force you to keep buying new rules and (some) new models, but yes, the game still offers plenty of fun.

Personally I quit years ago now myself around the time of the 5th ed tyranid codex. I kept all my models though, and have quietly watched and waited for something to pique my interest. The game just got boring for me, it happens to everyone.

The Tyranid codex still pisses me off. I would have gotten a refund for the book if the store would have let me.

Ugh, I forgot about 5th edition. That one was bad enough, but the replacement being worse, for an army that was already struggling...it really feels like GW doesn't know what the feth it's doing. For a company that sells models it sure doesn't seem to know how to do that, other than forcing you to buy them with the new "decurion-style" detachments.