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I don't mind it but I'd want more Templar details on the model. The chest plate, greaves and waistcloth are very plain.

Nowhere in the article mentions he is a primaris and he is wearing relic armour, "The Armour of Faith", which would predate primaris.

My minor issues with it are the tabard and the pistol holster. The tabard over the belly looks weird, but that is likely just because of the paint job. The pistol holster is positioned for his right hand, in a cross draw, which is holding his sword. The holster should either be on the other side or face the other way for a left handed draw.

What an awesome model! Can’t wait to see the rest of the BT releases.

Tygre wrote:
Nowhere in the article mentions he is a primaris and he is wearing relic armour, "The Armour of Faith", which would predate primaris.

You really think that this isn't a Primaris Marine? Even with the Primaris-style backpack, the hip armour and the knee pad flares?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Tygre wrote:
Nowhere in the article mentions he is a primaris and he is wearing relic armour, "The Armour of Faith", which would predate primaris.

You really think that this isn't a Primaris Marine? Even with the Primaris-style backpack, the hip armour and the knee pad flares?

To me that is a regular marine backpack, I noticed no real difference. Yes his mk6 legs now have flares over the knees. The Armour of Faith supposed to be a relic and artificer armour. Are you telling me that now only primaris can become the Emperors Champion. Or can it be either and GW gave some stylistic similarities to both first born and primaris so it would fit with the different styles.

Tygre wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Tygre wrote:
Nowhere in the article mentions he is a primaris and he is wearing relic armour, "The Armour of Faith", which would predate primaris.

You really think that this isn't a Primaris Marine? Even with the Primaris-style backpack, the hip armour and the knee pad flares?

To me that is a regular marine backpack, I noticed no real difference. Yes his mk6 legs now have flares over the knees. The Armour of Faith supposed to be a relic and artificer armour. Are you telling me that now only primaris can become the Emperors Champion. Or can it be either and GW gave some stylistic similarities to both first born and primaris so it would fit with the different styles.

It can be either, yeah. There are more than one sets of Armour of Faith. This is a Primaris version.


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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 EmperorsChampion wrote:
Nice, I finally got a new model.

Previous 130 didn't count for some reason, i assume?

Missed the name of the person you’re replying to, I assume?

Nah he just wants to complain about gw so twists everything to attack for gw.

Were gw to declare 99% price cut and 100 releases for every faction next month he would still attack　gw. Gw bad, gw evil.

tneva82 wrote:
Were gw to declare 99% price cut and 100 releases for every faction next month he would still attack　gw. Gw bad, gw evil.

No he wouldn't. Your hyperbole doesn't help here.

 Platuan4th wrote:

a_typical_hero wrote:
One of which was limited to a Games Day

No it wasn't. It was an Anniversary Limited Edition but released to all stores as both a blister and in the Heroes of the Imperium box.

My bad. I could have sworn it was GD exclusive. Mandela effect, huh. Never heard of the Heroes of the Imperium box before, despite being quite active from 3rd to 6th.

His backpack has the Primaris round bulge on the back, but lacks the Primaris armour plates on the vent nodules.

His legs are 100% Primaris, they have the hip plates, knee flares, ankle bulges, top of the foot plate.

His helmet lacks the Primaris ear plates.

To me, this looks like a Primaris with older armour marks integrated, no doubt to show off the relic-ness of the armour.
Pretty cool, it's great to see Primaris showing something other than plain, bland, Mk.X.

Ok, is it just me or is the sword nowhere near straight, or even centered correctly?

a_typical_hero wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

a_typical_hero wrote:
One of which was limited to a Games Day

No it wasn't. It was an Anniversary Limited Edition but released to all stores as both a blister and in the Heroes of the Imperium box.

My bad. I could have sworn it was GD exclusive. Mandela effect, huh. Never heard of the Heroes of the Imperium box before, despite being quite active from 3rd to 6th.

Because you (presumably) live in Germany. That box was a USA exclusive, Europe (well certainly the UK) only got the anniversary blister.

Having had another look at this, something I find quite interesting about it is how it mixes Primaris and MkVII design cues in a way we've not seen before. There's some obvious Primaris stuff – the shape/design of the lower legs, the round plate on the back of the power pack – but some other stuff – the "ears" on the helmet, lack of raised gorget on the torso, the shape of the power pack vents and top section – are very old-school.

I want to see a 360 view before final judgment, but so far the model looks like a very expensive source of bits to me. I don't think I would have considered it inspiring if the old model didn't exist. In direct comparison, it boggles the mind that GW would consider the new one an adequate replacement.

Like, how hard can it be for a manager to go and say "this one, but bigger"? It's kind of hard to believe nobody was aware that the old one was a beloved and iconic sculpt and improving on it was going to be close to impossible.

 ph34r wrote:
Ok, is it just me or is the sword nowhere near straight, or even centered correctly?

That probably means the sword is tipped forward. Not that you can't get it wrong, but CAD sculpting is somewhat proof against accidentally building in unintended bends.

I'm gonna go against what most other people have been saying here – the previous one was a very cool sculpt in isolation, but in the context of the rest of the Space Marine range, always felt a bit slight and insubstantial to me, like, almost too elegant to be a Space Marine (arguably, that's Juan Diaz for you). This lad looks like he'd hit like a truck. And I say this as someone who would have largely much preferred to see Proper Marines get the same upscaling job the Chaos fellas got rather than Primaris Nonsense.

 kirotheavenger wrote:
His backpack has the Primaris round bulge on the back, but lacks the Primaris armour plates on the vent nodules.

His legs are 100% Primaris, they have the hip plates, knee flares, ankle bulges, top of the foot plate.

His helmet lacks the Primaris ear plates.

To me, this looks like a Primaris with older armour marks integrated, no doubt to show off the relic-ness of the armour.
Pretty cool, it's great to see Primaris showing something other than plain, bland, Mk.X.

Yeah, it's a mix. Cool concept. And as veteran intercessors are now a separate unit, I really wish they would do a dedicated veteran intercessor kit in this style, primaris armour mixed with the older elements. It could represent veterans that have undergone the Rubicon Primaris and decided to keep some of their old armour.

I much prefer primaris over the older models, but one thing I miss from the older line is the small differences that allow some personalisation; primaris are too uniform for my liking.

I just kit bash my primaris with the more recent classic scale power armoured stuff, 90% of the heads, shoulder pads, weapons and sticky on bling bling look just fine. You even get away with arms if you stick them on a little low in the shoulder joint and cover that with the shoulder pad. I'd like better chapter upgrade sets like the old dark angel veteran and black templar chapter upgrade sets over having too much more bling on the basic kits though, they're expensive enough as it is

Billicus wrote:
I just kit bash my primaris with the more recent classic scale power armoured stuff, 90% of the heads, shoulder pads, weapons and sticky on bling bling look just fine. You even get away with arms if you stick them on a little low in the shoulder joint and cover that with the shoulder pad. I'd like better chapter upgrade sets like the old dark angel veteran and black templar chapter upgrade sets over having too much more bling on the basic kits though, they're expensive enough as it is

Yeah, I do that as well and it works fine. Still, I wouldn't mind that variety being built in. The chests in particular are a bit of a hassle, as they're all identical and customising them takes more than a simple kitbash. I often shave the eagle off and glue various bits, but I would certainly welcome some variant primaris chest pieces!

 Nevelon wrote:

a_typical_hero wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 EmperorsChampion wrote:
Nice, I finally got a new model.

Previous 130 didn't count for some reason, i assume?

2, actually. One of which was limited to a Games Day and both are ~20 years old. Just don't post if you only want to spew some nonesense that you know is wrong?

Also, look at who you are responding to.

A woosh moment...

But i'm excited, it's been 15+ years since the BT had had a new model.

 ph34r wrote:
Ok, is it just me or is the sword nowhere near straight, or even centered correctly?

The things people find to complain about never cease to amaze me.


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 EmperorsChampion wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:

a_typical_hero wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 EmperorsChampion wrote:
Nice, I finally got a new model.

Previous 130 didn't count for some reason, i assume?

2, actually. One of which was limited to a Games Day and both are ~20 years old. Just don't post if you only want to spew some nonesense that you know is wrong?

Also, look at who you are responding to.

A woosh moment...

But i'm excited, it's been 15+ years since the BT had had a new model.

Is there a chance that they would do a squad Grimaldis? Would a Unit of Characters work? Cause that might interest me given my love for the book.

Togusa wrote:
The things people find to complain about never cease to amaze me.

What a notion, am I right? That people's suspension of disbelief can be broken by different things.

Boggles the mind.

I foresee them updating Helbrecht, maybe Grimaldus as well...rumors were floating around about a BT specific Ancient. Seems like a load of new models and we've never seen this kind of primaris release outside of the basic models. I would love a new crusader squad...but I shall not be too greedy.

Both Helbrecht and Grimaldus seem like they'd be way too old to survive the Rubicon. Mind you that doesn't mean it wouldn't happen but I think we'd be more likely to see new characters rather than them getting bumped.

Also I think, much like GKs ant TSs, this will be the only new model in a potential BT box coming.

Nah. They wouldn't be doing a launch box if it was just one new model.

It might be Initiates or packed in with an upgrade frame or something, but there's likely to be a ton of New New New.

Togusa wrote:
The things people find to complain about never cease to amaze me.

What's more disturbing is that anyone would call that a "complaint" rather than just "an observation".

 Kanluwen wrote:
Nah. They wouldn't be doing a launch box if it was just one new model.

It might be Initiates or packed in with an upgrade frame or something, but there's likely to be a ton of New New New.

I mean I'd be crazy happy with that. Primaris Crusade squads would be fantastic.

What would Primaris Neophytes even look like...

How does Primaris recruiting work?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What would Primaris Neophytes even look like...

How does Primaris recruiting work?

Test Tubes where their arms stick out the sides.

 rybackstun wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Nah. They wouldn't be doing a launch box if it was just one new model.

It might be Initiates or packed in with an upgrade frame or something, but there's likely to be a ton of New New New.

I mean I'd be crazy happy with that. Primaris Crusade squads would be fantastic.

The reason I said "Initiates" is that Scouts are due an update and I could see Black Templars actually getting a unique "Initiate" unit in lieu of just using Scouts which could come later with a Kill Team set.

New neophytes/scouts are coming with this release, per folks with inside knowledge. Sword Brethren are also getting a dedicated kit (not an upgrade sprue). It's a sizable release with c. 5 Primaris characters, 2 Primaris units, and an upgrade sprue.