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I'm thinking of using him or Kyrinov with a big blob of guardsmen for objective holding and long range fire. Fearless Infantry Squads and Heavy Weapon Teams are certainly pretty interesting.

I want to keep using him, but I think the disembark problem will make him useless.

I want to keep using him too, specially for re-rolling my faith points. Im gonna try him in a big squad of sisters to hold an objective.

Yeah, I think he'll still be a staple, but the conclave may die to this edition.

I really worry about sisters if the conclave can no longer charge reasonably and hitch a ride midfield.

What else do we have that works well in counter charge situations? Allies? We can't fit a repentia squad in any assault vehicles it seems.

For a new codex, sisters sure get an awful lot of whacky purpose/rule interactions.

Lucre wrote:I really worry about sisters if the conclave can no longer charge reasonably and hitch a ride midfield.

What else do we have that works well in counter charge situations? Allies? We can't fit a repentia squad in any assault vehicles it seems.

For a new codex, sisters sure get an awful lot of whacky purpose/rule interactions.

I haven't played the new rules yet, but it could be a viable tactic to just keep them on foot behind their tank. It's not as safe as being in the tank but with the new rules where you can only kill the models you can see it should provide some pretty good protection.

Well, we have tons of girls with bolters, melta and flamers who get at least one turn of shooting against anyone who pops out of their transport, along with overwatch. That's not too bad. With assault getting harder and shooting getting better, our basic girls are pretty happy.

As for our assault units, they are in the same boat as most other assault units. Still waiting on my book, so not sure which route to go with them. I hear only models in Los can be shot within a unit(?) which might well make using vehicles to blos/give cover to disembarking assaulters a good tactic. Just have to get good at positioning. With fleet and ap2 native, reps might be a bit better comparatively.

I also want to try using Penitent Engines in squadrons to take advantage of hull allocation shenanigans. Might work, might not, we'll see. New rage makes them a lot more tactically flexible.

I really want that assault ramp Repressor in the WD now.

That's a really good idea, Amerikon. Just do the rolling cover idea. lol

Ah poop, this edition is going to make v formation rhino blocking really tricky isn't it? I guess I can kiss the bolter shots goodbye.

Jury is still out on the viability of Penitent Engines, have played 2 games with them scouting (via Creed). One game they utterly demolished some BAs and the next they managed to kill a couple grey knights before getting psycannoned into oblivion. Both games they have done much better than before, and getting 6d3 heavy flamer hits when they are charged is just a cherry on top. They are definitely sturdier, the question is are they sturdy enough...

Depending how the battle conclave fairs I am seriously considering swapping it out for 3 outflanking PEs

Cheese and Crackers! How did I not notice this before?

The rules for both Fearless and Hit and Run require only a single model in a unit for the effects to apply. On top of that, the rules for characteristic tests say that when taking the test "use the highest relevant characteristic in the unit".

So let me get this straight. If I put Celestine in a squad of Seraphim they become Fearless, can Hit and Run at I7, and (if she's positioned right) can pawn off wounds on an IC that can't die?

Yeah, that's going to work pretty well for us.

Ooh nice catch. I might actually run a squad f seraphim now.

Amerikon wrote:Cheese and Crackers! How did I not notice this before?

The rules for both Fearless and Hit and Run require only a single model in a unit for the effects to apply. On top of that, the rules for characteristic tests say that when taking the test "use the highest relevant characteristic in the unit".

So let me get this straight. If I put Celestine in a squad of Seraphim they become Fearless, can Hit and Run at I7, and (if she's positioned right) can pawn off wounds on an IC that can't die?

Yeah, that's going to work pretty well for us.

Hit and Run at I7 ? I missed it too.

It's still a fail if you roll 6 though, isn't it?

Don't think the fail on 6 applies to initiative tests.
it's your ini +d6 against your opponent's ini +d6 if both were to fail because they rolled 6 silliness would ensue.

And yeah Celestine is a decent meatshield for a lot of squads now. Can have her leading repentias as well. Make's her a little slower, but it's fluffy and helps get your beat stick safely into melee.

Didn't have my rulebook before, but have now:
Initiative tests are purely for the model itself, not measured against the opponent. It specifically says a dice roll of 6 is always a fail. (and 1 always success).

Still, a 5/6 chance to escape combat with Celestine is good enough!

You are right.
I was running an initiative test like a sweeping advance.

Anyone hear about the new plastics yet? I might end up playing a legal sisters army one day!

So are retributors still our best bet for reliable multi target torrenting?

Any ideas from allies? Anything that can kill a lot of high armor save targets at once?

Rumor about getting penitent engine alternative in the box, like the prism box, with it's own legal gw rules... Still no word on our repressor though.

Lucre wrote:Anyone hear about the new plastics yet? I might end up playing a legal sisters army one day!

So are retributors still our best bet for reliable multi target torrenting?

Any ideas from allies? Anything that can kill a lot of high armor save targets at once?

Rumor about getting penitent engine alternative in the box, like the prism box, with it's own legal gw rules... Still no word on our repressor though.

Chance of sisters plastics anytime soon? Nil.
Doms do torrent better with flame.
Allies are really only guard. We have ap1 covered we just need long range.

Where'd you hear about a new PE?

Lucre wrote:Anyone hear about the new plastics yet? I might end up playing a legal sisters army one day!

So are retributors still our best bet for reliable multi target torrenting?

Any ideas from allies? Anything that can kill a lot of high armor save targets at once?

Rumor about getting penitent engine alternative in the box, like the prism box, with it's own legal gw rules... Still no word on our repressor though.

Even if the plastics where ready to be dropped, there is such a large rumored release schedule its not anytime soon.

As for allies, imo they aren't worth taking unless there battle brothers which basically leaves guard.
I really (really, really) have been considering a vendetta squadron having multiple twin linked lascanons that don't need 6's to hit vehicles. Maybe a psyker for the HQ choice and a unit or two of flashlight warriors with some auto cannons or missile launcher wep teams. My only issue with it is that i love my pure sisters force but the potential boost to the army vendettas can provide is quite strong.

kore5022 wrote:

Lucre wrote:Anyone hear about the new plastics yet? I might end up playing a legal sisters army one day!

So are retributors still our best bet for reliable multi target torrenting?

Any ideas from allies? Anything that can kill a lot of high armor save targets at once?

Rumor about getting penitent engine alternative in the box, like the prism box, with it's own legal gw rules... Still no word on our repressor though.

Even if the plastics where ready to be dropped, there is such a large rumored release schedule its not anytime soon.

As for allies, imo they aren't worth taking unless there battle brothers which basically leaves guard.
I really (really, really) have been considering a vendetta squadron having multiple twin linked lascanons that don't need 6's to hit vehicles. Maybe a psyker for the HQ choice and a unit or two of flashlight warriors with some auto cannons or missile launcher wep teams. My only issue with it is that i love my pure sisters force but the potential boost to the army vendettas can provide is quite strong.

I've been considering a space marine allied detachment (say Blood Angels, since they are allies of convenience) for an assault squad + assault vehicle + assault HQ. Blood Angels have assault marines as troops after all. Couple it with
a Death Company dreadnought for instance..

Librarian in power armour
Assault Squad of 10 with sergeant with power weapon
Stormraven
Total: 515 pts

Or

Librarian
3 Death Company with power swords
1 DC dread
Stormraven
Total: 530 pts

I think if I allied with the Blood Angels, it'd be for the lols of having Celestine and The Sanguinor in the same army.

Too bad you can't the SR for the battle comclave.

pretre wrote:Too bad you can't the SR for the battle comclave.

Well with a Reclusiarch you can simulate Uriah's re-rolls (and it's to-hit and to-wound). Shame Furious Charge doesn't give +1 I, but at least you get another attack from Rage.

Only problem is it'd be so totally wrong to ally with Blood Angels in my eyes.. heh.

They can't join each other sice they aren't BB.

I meant the Reclusiarch with Death Company friends as a substitute for Uriah + DCA.

+1 favorite rule so far:

Models that move count as having moved while ones who dont, don't. Thank you GW for making something that makes sense happen in the new edition.

With pre-measuring, i was able to move some sniper drones and not others to get them in range. Shots I could not have made I now can and I don't lose the accuracy on the other models. Hooray!

http://natfka.blogspot.ca/2012/07/new-sisters-of-battle-models.html

Rumors! Freely given and freely taken!

ooooo new sisters models. I might just get some now. In that vein, knowing I'm not gonna be too super competitive, but still wanting to do a good fight, any good synergy between sisters and GK?

I'm hoping for a thematic thing. Maybe crowe + celestine and purifiers and seraphim as above?

How about dreadknight + repentias and PE squadron for big choppy goodness?

Throw down a bunch of pipe organs and make a GK attachment for psycannon shootyness?

Heard it before. We will see.

The rumor page seemed reasonable up until the plasma gun/cannon part that would completely go against years of fluff.
Less nekked repentia would be a complete shame tbh