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2018/07/15 12:22:42
Subject: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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At the very least, I'm hoping some sets get parted out on ebay so I can pick up a Fell Beast slightly cheaper! Ditto for the new Theoden, but that's probably going to be fairly pricey on its own unless there's a ton of them on the market.
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2018/07/15 12:32:52
Subject: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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I was actually expecting to have Gondor in the starter, and I was expecting to play them when this comes out, but that Theoden is making me rethink my plans and consider Rohan.
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Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that. |
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2018/07/15 12:42:25
Subject: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Battlefield Tourist
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Oh, wow. Was not expecting this. Will almost definitely pick this set up! Can always use more Orcs, Trolls and Nazgul. I have Rohan force too, and I do not need more warriors or horses, but I do want the plastic Theoden.
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2018/07/15 12:42:28
Subject: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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So those are old models, eh? Didn't even notice...
That puts a damper on my enthusiasm. I was really hoping for some fresh sprues. I like the current Rohan lineup and the orcs as well, but this is essentially just a discount box. Kinda hard for me to get excited about that.
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2018/07/15 12:47:12
Subject: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Battlefield Tourist
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I am a bit excited about the new edition of the rules. I love the One Ring book and it is my favourite GW game, but I am hopeful that the new game might even improve on things.
Plus, if there was a revival in LOTR I could get some games in!
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2018/07/15 13:20:08
Subject: Re: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Stalwart Ultramarine Tactical Marine
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I was there, 3000 years ago, when the last LotR starterbox was released.
Good to see a new box and rules coming. Hence that both forces don´t have enough heroes to field them with the current 12 men per hero rules. So maybe they ditched this rule.
Using the WoR and RoR is a bad move. Both are modelwise too small compared to other LotR minis and don´t hold up against the other sprues in the box. The rest looks fine, but most old players will have already enough of this minis, which were popular back then. So it is good value for a new player, but I will look for the single rulebook and my army book.
Also this Theoden doesn´t hold a candle to the old ones. I´m sorry to write this.
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2018/07/15 14:01:42
Subject: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Inspiring Icon Bearer
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Oh man! That starter set looks awesome! I don't have any of these models, and the new Theoden looks fantastic. Can't wait for this one.
I'm betting $150 for the price. Well worth it as far as I can tell.
Also, Theoden is first of the new plastic characters! Sweet!
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2018/07/15 14:25:51
Subject: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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Absolutely fantastic boxed set. An exciting, pivotal and recognisable scene from the movie recreated in a boxed set with a bunch of great models - and including both a troll AND Fell Beast is just brilliant. Who wouldn't want those?! I'm not a big fan of the foot Theoden model to be honest, but the new mounted Theoden sculpt is fantastic - far better than the old one. Lots of energy and motion in the sculpt. I think there's a place for both though. The old one (mounted armoured Theoden with helmet) has served me well and has a nice steady trotting pose, but this is definitely the 'in the heat of action' one.
This is everything a LOTR boxed set should be and I am so thankful that Games Workshop have gotten back into developing this line. For those complaining about 'old models' being included just remember that this range was utterly dead years back. It seemed only a matter of time until they got rid of it all for good - and now we're here.
I am forever thankful to everyone who demonstrated the love and commitment that was still out there for LOTR SBG which undeniably led GW to recognise that their time in Middle Earth was not over.
Brilliant stuff.
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2018/07/15 15:33:27
Subject: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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His Master's Voice wrote:I love the dynamic posing on mounted Theoden, but the foot version seems way too squat. Oh well, I don't really mind finecast anyway.
Looks to me like all the new stuff is moving away from good proportions and towards "heroic" proportions. Not a good change IMHO.
I am interested in the set, but I'll definitely be waiting to see more pics before I order.
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2018/07/15 16:43:39
Subject: Re: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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Papa-Schlumpf wrote:
Good to see a new box and rules coming. Hence that both forces don´t have enough heroes to field them with the current 12 men per hero rules. So maybe they ditched this rule.
nah; it'll be a starter box with scenarios and then use a normal guy as a captain. Then a "what to get next!" section as standard
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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2018/07/15 16:55:31
Subject: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Fixture of Dakka
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Not sure if I will get this. If it's Forge World only then no. Hate so see the costs if it's FW only.
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
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2018/07/15 16:57:09
Subject: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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Davor wrote:Not sure if I will get this. If it's Forge World only then no. Hate so see the costs if it's FW only.
price is "same as Age of Sigmar set". #95 / $160.
Don't forget, Specialist Games is Forge World. You can purchase Horus Heresy, Necromunda, Blood Bowl, etc, at retail, so...
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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2018/07/15 16:58:52
Subject: Re: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I wonder if it will come with the full kits of the fellbeast and troll, with all the options like building an Isengard troll, or non-Witch king rider on the Fellbeast?
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2018/07/15 17:10:04
Subject: Re: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Slinky wrote:I wonder if it will come with the full kits of the fellbeast and troll, with all the options like building an Isengard troll, or non-Witch king rider on the Fellbeast?
Yes, it’ll just be the full sprues.
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2018/07/15 17:10:09
Subject: Re: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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Slinky wrote:I wonder if it will come with the full kits of the fellbeast and troll, with all the options like building an Isengard troll, or non-Witch king rider on the Fellbeast?
Yes, see drums and isengard shield on troll sprue on right side
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2018/07/15 17:11:22
"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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2018/07/15 17:25:31
Subject: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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New rules, at least, which was honestly the only thing I was truly interested in. Models suitable for LotR are, well, mostly the foundation of every fantasy miniatures manufacturer so I've got nothing to worry about. And that's without even considering historical miniatures!
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2018/07/15 17:46:11
Subject: Re: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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judgedoug wrote: Slinky wrote:I wonder if it will come with the full kits of the fellbeast and troll, with all the options like building an Isengard troll, or non-Witch king rider on the Fellbeast?
Yes, see drums and isengard shield on troll sprue on right side
Awesome, in that case this set includes quite a few things that are on my "to purchase" list, and makes it an even easier decision
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2018/07/15 18:17:01
Subject: Re: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Stalwart Ultramarine Tactical Marine
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@judgedoug: Mostly plausible. But isn´t the "King of the dead" the only thematically correct hero for the ghosts? (Sorry if I mix up the names.)
As a Rohan player myself I wished so long for new WoR and now that won´t happen. Maybe a new commado unit and heroes. But the Perrys are missing and it shows. They were part of the reason for the love this range got in the past.
I would like to see on both sides more "small heroes" like Beregond. Also hopefully the different weapon strikes aren´t available anymore, they just prolonged the game.
And mostly I hope for a localization of the books in different languages.
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2018/07/15 18:51:05
Subject: Re: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I wonder if we also see a smaller Set in the Future. Like for 40k or AoS?
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2018/07/15 19:34:15
Subject: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Fixture of Dakka
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judgedoug wrote:Davor wrote:Not sure if I will get this. If it's Forge World only then no. Hate so see the costs if it's FW only.
price is "same as Age of Sigmar set". #95 / $160.
Don't forget, Specialist Games is Forge World. You can purchase Horus Heresy, Necromunda, Blood Bowl, etc, at retail, so...
I didn't know that HH, Necromunda, Blood Bowl etc was FW. This is good to know. Thank you very much.
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
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2018/07/15 20:02:39
Subject: Re: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Papa-Schlumpf wrote:But isn´t the "King of the dead" the only thematically correct hero for the ghosts? (Sorry if I mix up the names.)
Ahem, Aragorn.
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2018/07/15 20:07:05
Subject: Re: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Stalwart Ultramarine Tactical Marine
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You are technically correct, the best kind of correct. But no Aragorn is in the box to lead the ghosts. So maybe the squad rules are no more or there is a new Undead hero like a captain.
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2018/07/15 20:09:18
Subject: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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That Pelennor box is an instabuy. I already have more LOTR miniatures than I know what to do with, but with Theoden being my favourite character... I just can't resist buying more. It is an addiction!
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2018/07/15 20:38:28
Subject: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Great box set.
If anyone doesn't want their Nazgul from the set i'm going to be on the market for a couple of them.
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2018/07/15 21:36:35
Subject: Re: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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Statline from book shows that SBG officially incorporates the keyword system from AOS and 40k. Rest of stats remain unchanged.
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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2018/07/15 21:53:24
Subject: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Taarnak wrote:
Looks to me like all the new stuff is moving away from good proportions and towards "heroic" proportions. Not a good change IMHO.
I am interested in the set, but I'll definitely be waiting to see more pics before I order.
The Warden of the Keys seems fine to me, as did the Laketown heroes from a while back. I think it's just some unfortunate sculpting decisions with the new Theoden.
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2018/07/15 22:49:47
Subject: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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The keywords arent really a surprise... I mean, the current ruleset kind of uses them already. Goblin, ork, spirit, monster... its just been a bit more formalised I guess. Though I really *am* curious about which things they may have changed...
(also, the box seems to contain most of what I thought it would - the only surprise being the fell beast and warriors of the dead.)
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2018/07/15 22:54:42
Subject: Re: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Nasty Nob
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Wow, the new box set looks like a good deal. I haven't played the ME strategy game or collect the minis, but im a big LOTR fan and I've been admiring the minis from afar for some time. Looks like this might end up on my Christmas wish list.
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2018/07/15 23:13:45
Subject: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I’m not sure if I can go in for this given I do have all the models already... but I must say it does look like a fantastic box and I hope it can bring more players to the game
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I do commissions! PM me if you're interested for prices and details, I am happy to paint a small group group of models first at a different price so that you can see my painting first hand, before making a big decision.
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2018/07/15 23:25:52
Subject: Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game: page 31 new boxset
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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Now if they would return the boxes back to be 24 miniatures for 18€ instead of 12 for 20€ ...
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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