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Lol spongebob.
Anyways, I wonder what the crypteks will look like?

RutgerMan wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:The c'tan were apparently overthrown before the necrons went into stasis and events since then that the c'tan were responsible for were just shards.

This suggests the dragon escaping sharding or perhaps just a large shard is on mars.

Like whaaat? xD the deceiver wasn't in the last codex! well he just deceived many of the others got them destroyed by the nightbringer :O...

Yet so, you are saying that my old codex will have no actual fluff xD

Uuhhh Yes he was. This is the necron codex we're talking about, right?

I just realised something...

There were those rumors about Necron walker that looks like a giant skelton with crystal suspended in it's chest, right?
And yet - the walker with Heat Ray turns out to be a Pretorian riding a Mechano-Scorpion not aforementioned Skelton.

What if that's the model for... C'than Shard?

Bare with me - they can't just make some freeky crossbreed between Deciever and Nightbringer as that would seem stupid and out of place. They need something matching new line of Necrons and something that will put some emphasis on the fact C'thans are now but slaves to the Necronthyr... What do you say?

RutgerMan wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:The c'tan were apparently overthrown before the necrons went into stasis and events since then that the c'tan were responsible for were just shards.

This suggests the dragon escaping sharding or perhaps just a large shard is on mars.

Like whaaat? xD the deceiver wasn't in the last codex! well he just deceived many of the others got them destroyed by the nightbringer :O...

Yet so, you are saying that my old codex will have no actual fluff xD

Uh, yeah old codices are regularly invalidated by new.

What the old codex said was the deceiver is now one of the shards of the deceiver.

So we're talking "shard" in the metaphorical sense then?

i.e. a "shard" looks just like the C'Tan that it is a "piece" of, but isn't as powerful.

Hang on, hang on -- an undead empire you say? With whole lands full of tombs and mausoleums? Clearly Clark Ashton Smith ripped off the necron fluff way back in 1932!

http://www.eldritchdark.com/writings/short-stories/61/the-empire-of-the-necromancers

Mercyful gods, the new Necrons fluff is pants on head slowed. GW truly managed to destroy whatever coolness factor an almost lovecraftian horde of all destroying robots had and replaced it with a bunch of self obsessed nobles. Tomb Knights in space, now with 50% more stupid looking minatures, w00t! ( with the exception of the new Immortals and the Deathmarks, those look pretty cool ).

The us of the word "slowed" as a synonym for bad or stupid or awful, etc., is not acceptable on DakkaDakka. Thanks! ~Manchu

KingDeath wrote:Mercyful gods, the new Necrons fluff is pants on head slowed. GW truly managed to destroy whatever coolness factor an almost lovecraftian horde of all destroying robots had and replaced
it with a bunch of self obsessed nobles. Tomb Knights in space, now with 50% more stupid looking minatures, w00t! ( with the exception of the new Immortals and the Deathmarks, those look pretty cool ).

Well thats one opinion.......

Flashman wrote:So we're talking "shard" in the metaphorical sense then?

i.e. a "shard" looks just like the C'Tan that it is a "piece" of, but isn't as powerful.

Presumably, having just the deceivers head on the tabletop would be a little silly.

Just but a Gold Sliver on a 40mm Base, BOOM! C'Tan shard

corpsesarefun wrote:

Flashman wrote:So we're talking "shard" in the metaphorical sense then?

i.e. a "shard" looks just like the C'Tan that it is a "piece" of, but isn't as powerful.

Presumably, having just the deceivers head on the tabletop would be a little silly.

Yes, ok. When people first started talking about "shards", I was imagining a crystal worn round a Necron Lord's neck or something that gave him the C'Tan's powers.

Moving on...

masterofstuff1 wrote:

KingDeath wrote:Mercyful gods, the new Necrons fluff is pants on head slowed. GW truly managed to destroy whatever coolness factor an almost lovecraftian horde of all destroying robots had and replaced
it with a bunch of self obsessed nobles. Tomb Knights in space, now with 50% more stupid looking minatures, w00t! ( with the exception of the new Immortals and the Deathmarks, those look pretty cool ).

Well thats one opinion.......

Sometimes it is just stupid to make an alien horror relatable, you know, because it becomes less alien and horrible this way.
But hey, just wait for the next Tyranids book where we will get many individual Hive Tyrants which all have their petty little motivations.
Perhaps some could be impressed by martial valour, some others just want to be friends with everyone...

Or hey, perhaps Matt Ward can write the next chaos codex too? Perhaps he could turn the Black Legion into super duper secret loyalists. To make them more relatable.
And some Legions will still try to serve the carriongod.

What about You guys? What are you stocking pre-release?

When they had the Apocalypse bundle deals a few years ago I got both. I got the two Monolith set for $63 when The War Store was trying to get rid of what they had left, then I got the $200 bundle deal with a huge amount of Necrons in it for $160 from The War Store the following summer. Then, like the Necrons, I waited. Next month the wait is over.

Spongebob Trivia:
Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy are played by Ernest Borgnine and Tim Conway, who starred together in McHale's Navy TV series many years ago.

KingDeath wrote:Mercyful gods, the new Necrons fluff is pants on head slowed. GW truly managed to destroy whatever coolness factor an almost lovecraftian horde of all destroying robots had and replaced
it with a bunch of self obsessed nobles. Tomb Knights in space, now with 50% more stupid looking minatures, w00t! ( with the exception of the new Immortals and the Deathmarks, those look pretty cool ).

I agree.

Most races like the Eldar feared Necrons because of their gods.

What doesn't make sense is how the frigg the Necrons managed to deceive the Deceiver and turn him into a shard???!!

Farmer wrote:

KingDeath wrote:Mercyful gods, the new Necrons fluff is pants on head slowed. GW truly managed to destroy whatever coolness factor an almost lovecraftian horde of all destroying robots had and replaced
it with a bunch of self obsessed nobles. Tomb Knights in space, now with 50% more stupid looking minatures, w00t! ( with the exception of the new Immortals and the Deathmarks, those look pretty cool ).

I agree.

Most races like the Eldar feared Necrons because of their gods.

What doesn't make sense is how the frigg the Necrons managed to deceive the Deceiver and turn him into a shard???!!

Would not completely surprise me if the Deceiver IS the Silent King.

This latest incident reinforces something I've been saying a lot this year, that is that someone somewhere will always get their White Dwarf early, there are just too many of them around. All they've done with their mailing policy changes for home subscribers is annoy us to the point where we are outright canceling subscriptions or letting them lapse. Sending them to us 10 days later than they used to hasn't stopped the leaks, but it has really, REALLY angered the customers.

Rumors: New Necrons- Why This is Bad?
http://blog.spikeybits.com/2011/10/rumors-new-necrons-why-this-is-bad-pics.html

masterofstuff1 wrote:

Farmer wrote:

KingDeath wrote:Mercyful gods, the new Necrons fluff is pants on head slowed. GW truly managed to destroy whatever coolness factor an almost lovecraftian horde of all destroying robots had and replaced
it with a bunch of self obsessed nobles. Tomb Knights in space, now with 50% more stupid looking minatures, w00t! ( with the exception of the new Immortals and the Deathmarks, those look pretty cool ).

I agree.

Most races like the Eldar feared Necrons because of their gods.

What doesn't make sense is how the frigg the Necrons managed to deceive the Deceiver and turn him into a shard???!!

Would not completely surprise me if the Deceiver IS the Silent King.

The ultimate deception.

Lt. Coldfire wrote:

Flashman wrote:

Lt. Coldfire wrote:I've never been fearful entering a convalescent home before, which is where Trazyn looks like he belongs.

Ah yes, but have you ever entered an EVIL convalescent home?

Is this a pun to Every Villian Is Lemons (EVIL) in relation to Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy who reside in a convalescent home?

If so, well played.

Wut? Try a Dr. Evil reference from the Austin Powers movies. Pop culture, bub. Know it.

Herr Dexter wrote:I just realised something...

There were those rumors about Necron walker that looks like a giant skelton with crystal suspended in it's chest, right?
And yet - the walker with Heat Ray turns out to be a Pretorian riding a Mechano-Scorpion not aforementioned Skelton.

What if that's the model for... C'than Shard?

Bare with me - they can't just make some freeky crossbreed between Deciever and Nightbringer as that would seem stupid and out of place. They need something matching new line of Necrons and something that will put some emphasis on the fact C'thans are now but slaves to the Necronthyr... What do you say?

I think you're on to something. I am really interested to see this model. And its statline.

Flashman wrote:So we're talking "shard" in the metaphorical sense then?

i.e. a "shard" looks just like the C'Tan that it is a "piece" of, but isn't as powerful.

Even in the 3rd ed book the C'tan didn't look like the models - the model represents a necrodermis which the C'tan is inhabiting. Now it's just that that's what the shard of the C'tan's power/soul/whatever is placed in so that it can be used.

I'm somewhat shy about these new necrons. I can tell they'll be pretty darn good, but paying over $40 for base transports? It'll probably be cheaper to build an imperial guard army now lol

whigwam wrote:

Herr Dexter wrote:I just realised something...

There were those rumors about Necron walker that looks like a giant skelton with crystal suspended in it's chest, right?
And yet - the walker with Heat Ray turns out to be a Pretorian riding a Mechano-Scorpion not aforementioned Skelton.

What if that's the model for... C'than Shard?

Bare with me - they can't just make some freeky crossbreed between Deciever and Nightbringer as that would seem stupid and out of place. They need something matching new line of Necrons and something that will put some emphasis on the fact C'thans are now but slaves to the Necronthyr... What do you say?

I think you're on to something. I am really interested to see this model. And its statline.

This.

Sadly I have a feeling it will be wave 2 though.

As for the transports, perhaps they made the transports really ugly and high priced for a reason?

High priced most likely for the bits to make the doomsday ark, but even then Razorbacks aren't that expensive for the extra sprue.

l0k1 wrote:High priced most likely for the bits to make the doomsday ark, but even then Razorbacks aren't that expensive for the extra sprue.

Or the 20? necrons its comes with. It has a lot of separate bits to make such a complex design.

The transports are also expensive in points though, and most predictions seem to indicate that they will be far less prevalent than Rhinos or Chimerae...

Personally I think it is a not so subtle hint that crons are not meant to be played as a mech army

Mewiththeface wrote:

l0k1 wrote:High priced most likely for the bits to make the doomsday ark, but even then Razorbacks aren't that expensive for the extra sprue.

Or the 20? necrons its comes with. It has a lot of separate bits to make such a complex design.

I haven't seen anything to suggest that the warriors are included in the kit. If that's the case then I can understand. My thoughts are that being a very mech meta and a mexh army you'll want the transports, especially ones with the ability to regen models for troops. Also the possibility if taking them for your elites would put you at a possible 9 transports(depending on the army) plus the possibility of taking 3 in the heavy support slot. As for point costs, raiders are fairly expensive but that doesn't stop dark eldar players from spamming them. Obviously that doesn't mean you MUST take that many but it can make for a very expensive mech army.

l0k1 wrote:

Mewiththeface wrote:

l0k1 wrote:High priced most likely for the bits to make the doomsday ark, but even then Razorbacks aren't that expensive for the extra sprue.

Or the 20? necrons its comes with. It has a lot of separate bits to make such a complex design.

I haven't seen anything to suggest that the warriors are included in the kit. If that's the case then I can understand. My thoughts are that being a very mech meta and a mexh army you'll want the transports, especially ones with the ability to regen models for troops. Also the possibility if taking them for your elites would put you at a possible 9 transports(depending on the army) plus the possibility of taking 3 in the heavy support slot. As for point costs, raiders are fairly expensive but that doesn't stop dark eldar players from spamming them. Obviously that doesn't mean you MUST take that many but it can make for a very expensive mech army.

I think the model being displayed with warriors in an unseen pose on the vehicle in the advertisement picture at least suggests they are sold with it.

"Necron Catacomb Command/Annihilation Barge - Multi-part plastic kit £20.50
The Necron Catacomb Command Barge - a floating Throne from which your Overlord can give command to his troops. This kit may also be used to make the Annihilation Barge, and the Overlord model may be used as a standalone figure. "

Sorry I couldn't see it in the search.
If I buy the Catacomb Command Badge, could I make a Annihilation Barge AND have a stand-alone Overlord model with it? Seems quite cool to have two for the price.

l0k1 wrote:

Mewiththeface wrote:

l0k1 wrote:High priced most likely for the bits to make the doomsday ark, but even then Razorbacks aren't that expensive for the extra sprue.

Or the 20? necrons its comes with. It has a lot of separate bits to make such a complex design.

I haven't seen anything to suggest that the warriors are included in the kit. If that's the case then I can understand. My thoughts are that being a very mech meta and a mexh army you'll want the transports, especially ones with the ability to regen models for troops. Also the possibility if taking them for your elites would put you at a possible 9 transports(depending on the army) plus the possibility of taking 3 in the heavy support slot. As for point costs, raiders are fairly expensive but that doesn't stop dark eldar players from spamming them. Obviously that doesn't mean you MUST take that many but it can make for a very expensive mech army.

Yeah, but raiders aren't that expensive points-wise - you're talking 60 points base (compared to a Chimera at 55 points base), compared to a rumored 120 points?! To use Stelek's lingo, part of what makes mech effective is the 1+1 of efficient and effective unit in an efficient and effective vehicle. When you're talking about crappy Warriors (which, it appears are the only ones who can use a Ghost Ark, and from what rumors have gone 'round don't have any real options other than their Gauss Flayers) running 60 pts for 5 riding in a 120 pt open-topped transport which appears to only be armed with 2 Gauss Flayer arrays (which sounds to me like it's essentially a Hurricane Bolter-style Gauss weapon), I'm not feeling very impressed. That 120 pts is a steep price for an 11/11/11 open-topped transport.