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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/13 15:49:30
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- Back in Black.... well... Gray. (1/12/13)
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Thanks guys- I figured that since the Scorpions' bolters all had the red stripe design on the casing, I'd reflect that on their ccws. Ultimately it worked out rather well, and really adds visual balance to the models.
On the SW swords it was pretty straight forward what areas I had to paint red- either the main casing of the weapon or the embossed area. The vanilla ones, though, were the most fun, mostly because I could stripe them however I pleased!
The grenade throwing guy has a sword painted similar to the guy in back (just not in the picture), though his only has one stripe instead of two (maybe he needs more brownie points or something  )
Now Ice, As to the Razor-
The base color is the biggest hurdle, then after that it SHOULD be easy.
Im going to try to mimic eggroll's blood angels, as well as Ignatius-Grulgor's death guard rhino.
I feel the latter will be my best bet, as eggroll's airbrush skills are clearly based in black magic and voodoo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/13 16:21:20
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- Back in Black.... well... Gray. (1/12/13)
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[SWAP SHOP MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
OH-I Wanna get out of here
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Ok, so for squad/company markings, looks like FW cant make up their minds, so go for it. They don't even seem to be consistent on roman numerals versus the scripty ones used elsewhere.
They used to have the up pointing arrows on the right pad, now they have chevrons. They also used to have company # on the knee pad, now its the squad #.
So, go ahead and make them 8th company, whatever squad you want. Squad # on knee, company.....wherever. I like the chevrons more than the arrow, but whatever there too.
Oh, and Sgt gets a white helm, btw.
Also noticed in the pre-red pic, can see a bit of gits avatar on your pc
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/13 16:53:48
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- Back in Black.... well... Gray. (1/12/13)
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Gotcha gotcha! I just finished purity seals (and I keep finding more tucked away AFTER I put the paints away >< ), so now it'll be final assembly and freehand stuff! I hadnt even noticed Gits Avatar in the pic before now... I guess we see where my time online is spent then, eh?
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/01/13 16:55:41
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/13 17:00:12
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- Back in Black.... well... Gray. (1/12/13)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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That's amusing.... at least I know someone is reading my posts!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/14 00:32:17
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- Back in Black.... well... Gray. (1/12/13)
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[SWAP SHOP MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
OH-I Wanna get out of here
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Played a kill team game with the orks today, and actually won!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 03:24:26
Subject: Re:Rollin' All Ones -- Back in Black.... well... Gray. (1/12/13)
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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@Gits: But of course! I love seeing where your MWs go! Plus Im learning a lot of airbrush techniques from your work! @ WM: Awesome!! I guess da blue wunz iz really lucky! And the Assault squad is done! Here are a few close ups of the individual minis (pics are VERY zoomable, for better or for worse xD) Thanks for reading!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/01/15 03:24:57
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 03:44:18
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- First squad of Red Scorpions Finished! (1/14/13)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
OH-I Wanna get out of here
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Super excited to see them done. Everything came out excellent. Can't tell at all which ones were used, and which were new. Looking forward to seeing them with their apothecary and razorback.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 03:58:12
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- First squad of Red Scorpions Finished! (1/14/13)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Those look great Ramos! Great work on the eyes too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 04:26:04
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- First squad of Red Scorpions Finished! (1/14/13)
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Ragin' Ork Dreadnought
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Very nice work!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 12:47:50
Subject: Re:Rollin' All Ones -- First squad of Red Scorpions Finished! (1/14/13)
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Hoary Long Fang with Lascannon
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Fantastic, Ramos! Love the sergeant and the kneeling guy. Love the ripped flag on that guys shoulder.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/15 13:08:03
Subject: Re:Rollin' All Ones -- First squad of Red Scorpions Finished! (1/14/13)
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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They look great Ramos. What is that helmet on the sergeants base? Is that a Tiger Claw? *shakes fist*
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/16 01:00:28
Subject: Re:Rollin' All Ones -- Razorback and Apothecary started (1/15/13)
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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@Gits: Thanks! Im pleased with how they turned out as well. The picture doesnt show it too well, but I got a bottle of Ultra High Gloss varnish, so they look really glassy too!
@Arakasi: Thanks man!
@YB: The FW Red Scorpion shoulder bits (of which the ripped flag shoulder is a part of) are turning out to be some of my favorite parts. The level of detail on these things is awesome! Not to mention the very designs are cool. I kind of want to get some FW stuff for myself!
@ IA: Yup!! Or at least my facsimile thereof- I think it turned out just a smidge too vibrant. Im glad you got what it was. I was worried that it wouldnt be clear that it was a Tiger Claw helm (thus I added the stripes  )
@ WM: Thanks a ton! To be honest, I cant remember either xD
As to the Razor and apothecary.....
BOOM! The Razor!
And the various little bitz.
Then the Apothecary and Lt. Legless!
Next up is the oil wash!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/16 01:44:43
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- Razorback and Apothecary started (1/15/13)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Ooooh... I'm likin' that razorback!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/01/16 01:45:23
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/16 01:46:58
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- Razorback and Apothecary started (1/15/13)
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[SWAP SHOP MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
OH-I Wanna get out of here
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It's ok if he lost his leg, he is obviously a noob, showing up in non-Maximus armor
Where'd the heavy Bolters get off to?
I love the FW bits as well. If you want to start a FW heavy army, the pre heresy is all the rage these days. Some death guard, or sons of Horus perhaps?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/16 02:06:42
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- Razorback and Apothecary started (1/15/13)
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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I think I ended up painting the Lascannons for the Razor's second turret. Did you want me to paint the HBs instead? Sorry- Coulda sworn you said use whatever turret xD
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/16 02:46:29
Subject: Re:Rollin' All Ones -- Razorback and Apothecary started (1/15/13)
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Hoary Long Fang with Lascannon
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Dude, how do you keep coming up with the exact same ideas for objective markers as I do!?  It's uncanny, mate.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/16 02:51:34
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- Razorback and Apothecary started (1/15/13)
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[SWAP SHOP MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
OH-I Wanna get out of here
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Yeah, lascans are fine too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/17 00:59:47
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- Gray, Gray, and more Gray. (1/16/13)
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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@YB: Im spying on you obviously!! Why else did I send you that Fire Hawk? @ WM: Excellent. That sounds good then. Tonight's progress: Lots of grey edge highlighting after the wash.  I attempted to build a bit of his boot tread with an eagle design. Good old Converse Imperials! Thanks for reading!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/17 13:39:55
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- Gray, Gray, and more Gray. (1/16/13)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
OH-I Wanna get out of here
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I like the chucks. Super flat boots would be pretty awful to muck around in. Greys look good all around. And you were all worried for nothing
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/17 07:53:58
Subject: Re:Rollin' All Ones -- Gray, Gray, and more Gray. (1/16/13)
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Speed Drybrushing
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Excellent stuff, particularly looking forward to the razorback, they always make me a little envious seeing as I only play dirty traitors
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/17 10:23:56
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- Gray, Gray, and more Gray. (1/16/13)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Great skills. Love your Orks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/17 14:39:49
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- Gray, Gray, and more Gray. (1/16/13)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Ever forward Ramos, ever forward!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/18 03:32:40
Subject: Re:Rollin' All Ones -- Yellow on the Razorback (1/17/13)
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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@ WM: I know, right!? Heh. Now that I've got the mixes for my airbrush, the base gray is a BREEZE! Gotta say I'm pleased it turned out well, though now I'm rather low on Codex and Fortress Greys!!
@Ignatius: Thanks! Glad ya like it! And hey- You may not get Razors, but ya can put combi-weapons on your rhinos, right? Thats a neat little bit I wish loyalists had. Not to mention the Reaper Autocannons are a personal favorite Heavy Weapon of mine!
(Aaaand I kinda like daemons, but shhhh... the Inquisitors are listening...)
@Squidbot: Thank you and welcome to the thread! I have a nice little ork surprise Ive been working on in between these marines... Shouldn't be too much longer before its done- keep your eyes peeled
@Gits: Absolutely man! Wish i could join you guys at the con- pics are great and all, but nothing compares to seeing armies in the flesh!
Today I got a few parts finished on the Razor (mostly hatches and targeting lenses), including the yellow stripes on the main body.
Aggravatingly enough, the paint managed to seep under the tape and smudge the lovely gray underneath! The front right inset panel is the worst hit, but it will soon be covered by a decal/freehand squad parking, so I guess its not as bad as it could have been...
There was a worse spot on the top back of it, which was what forced me to paint the arrow shape in the top, but now Im rather glad I did it. It should make the razor that much easier to differentiate from its partner on the gaming table.
Ran into an oddity while painting the yellow on the weapon covers:
Both use the EXACT same color progression, however the part on the right has been airbrushed (with the edge highlight being the exception), while the left one was painted with a standard brush.
The airbrush gave a considerably lighter shade (more pale) and the wash didnt cling as deeply to it.
I dont think it should be too huge of a problem, though.... Its a smaller area, and shouldn't stand out too terribly much.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/18 03:51:47
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- Yellow on the Razorback (1/17/13)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I think that's looking great Ramos. Beautiful job on the little windows and the grey and yellow are looking beautiful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/18 12:28:35
Subject: Re:Rollin' All Ones -- Yellow on the Razorback (1/17/13)
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Hoary Long Fang with Lascannon
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Looks great, Ramos. I agree with Gits: the detail on the hatch is excellent. I'm also really liking the yellow on the weapon casing (?). Would you. Ind describing the airbrush progression you used?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/18 22:04:28
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- Yellow on the Razorback (1/17/13)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
OH-I Wanna get out of here
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Could it also be due to one having the grey under it and the other just being primer? Shouldn't matter much regardless. Next squad should be heading your way tomorrow or Monday.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/19 15:12:05
Subject: Re:Rollin' All Ones -- Yellow on the Razorback (1/17/13)
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Speed Drybrushing
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Razorback is looking great as expected! I've yet to use a wash across the surface of one of the vehicles I've been doing lately, as it seems to wash out the effects I've applied or goes blotchy in some places, and yet you've managed to make it work, clearly it's voodoo. Just took a peek at eggroll's angels you mentioned earlier and it's given me a cracking idea for some of the khorne stuff, if only I'd noticed earlier! Oh and don't you just hate it when masking tape does that, got some iron warriors stuff planned for the near future and they use lots of it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/19 17:38:38
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- Razorback Continues (1/19/13)
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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@Gits: Slowly but surely I'm learning! I kinda wish there were more hatch windows- they're actually kinda fun to paint!
@YB: No! Trade secret!
In truth its not too complex. Just Tausept Ochre airbrushed over black primer, then the center-most areas got airbrushed with Iyanden Darksun. After that it was a wash with slightly thinned Gryphonne Sepia!
I really wish I could more accurately replicate it, but somehow I have a feeling this is one of those results that happens once then vanishes to the ether ><
@ WM: Maybe, but I never would have expected such a massive difference! I think this warrants a little more experimentation. I'll have to mess with it later.
And good! I'll letcha know when they arrive!
@Ignatius: The key here is that it wasnt a citadel wash, but a homebrew oil wash.
I took a small, half-pea-sized amount of oil paint (Blick Artist's Colors "Ivory Black" ) and mixed it with about 8-10 mL of odorless mineral spirits. Then I applied it with a medium sized flat brush, stirring it up a little bit every so often.
The mineral spirits will spread quickly, and will fall into the cracks of a model far more readily than water-based washes due to mineral spirits' lower surface tension. Occasionally you'll find little flecks of the pigment hanging about or blotching in areas, but all you need to do is brush at it with a brush dampened with the mineral spirits. This redistributes the wash, and cleans up the particulates!
An added bonus is that oil paints dry slower than acrylics, so theres more time to adjust the wash. Plus, oil paints can be "removed" somewhat with more clean thinner, so you can always go back and adjust the wash. Acrylics are pretty much immune to mineral spirits, so you dont need to worry much about messing up your paint job!
After all that, you simply put a coat of flat varnish over it to lock it in, and resume painting as normal. This is critical as oil and acrylic aren't very good neighbors unless the varnish is between them.
Normally, you see this technique as a final weathering step over gloss varnish after -everything- else is painted. This makes the wash focus purely on recesses, as the gloss repels most of the wash on larger panels. By using a flat surface, as opposed to glossy, the wash clings more readily to the surface, acting as a filter and toning the color down/shifting its hue.
As to masking tape.... Ugh.... its always in the most conspicuous spot, isnt it? No matter how hard you try to avoid it!
Eggrolls' stuff is epic. Definitely one of my inspirations for this project!
Progress on the Razor since last update:
Reds are done, and whites are at about half to 2/3 done. Golds and silvers are the last bits to go, then the various accessories!
Thanks for reading!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/19 20:46:31
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- Razorback Continues (1/19/13)
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Hoary Long Fang with Lascannon
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Ramos Asura wrote:
@YB: No! Trade secret!
In truth its not too complex. Just Tausept Ochre airbrushed over black primer, then the center-most areas got airbrushed with Iyanden Darksun. After that it was a wash with slightly thinned Gryphonne Sepia!
I really wish I could more accurately replicate it, but somehow I have a feeling this is one of those results that happens once then vanishes to the ether ><
Thanks, Ramos!  Just painting some yellow of my own and was curious what you were doing: Gray primer, Balor Brown airbrush, Averland Sunset zenithal, Yriel Yellow zenithal, Sepua wash. Would prefer Vallejo for the airbrush but don't have them atm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/20 02:24:23
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- Razorback Continues (1/19/13)
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[SWAP SHOP MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
OH-I Wanna get out of here
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Were gunna have to have a "teach whale how to paint" day before you jet off to Japan. It's voodoo like making your own wash and those lenses that you are just crushing my dudes with. Ya meany.
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