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 jmurph wrote:
Can we talk about FTWD? That episode was super slow. We're on a boat. Still on a boat. Dead mom drama was super lame. Also, the girl is shaping up to be a real liability/stupid character.

I agree that it was slow in some respects. However, I'm willing to chalk that up to it being the first episode of the 'season', and the writers wanting to establish the boat setting.

Regarding the girl, she may end up a liability, but she's a completely believable 17 year old character. Carl from TWD would behave differently, but he has experience with other survivor groups that the FTWD group lacks. Strand may be an evil @#$&, but being an evil @#$& gives him some important insight into how the post-ZA world will behave.

And why didn't they see the capsized ship and bodies (or a he smoke bank) from a mile away on calm seas?

Stealth technology. The same kind that's employed on TWD when zombies seemingly materialize just off-camera to threaten characters who should have seen them coming from many yards away.

FTWD discussion should go here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/300/661436.page

 yakface wrote:

FTWD discussion should go here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/300/661436.page

Yak, I am eagerly anticipating your thoughts on the Season Finale. Stat!

Due to stuff I only just watched the finale now. I thought the episode was just bad overall. Besides the weak cop out ending Negan just doesn't feel like Negan and the storyline for the whole episode was just kind of stupid. It's too bad what was otherwise a good season had to end with this episode.

So crazy theory here; I was rewatching TWD and since people were trying to puzzle out Enid, I'm thinking (comic mention in spoiler)
Whatcha all think?

Not too crazy sounding, actually!

And the first I've read about it so...it's yours!


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Wait - didn't we 'see' her parents eaten by zombies?

And that wasn't something she was telling someone, it 'just was'.

So...

Hiding super secret comic talk in the spoiler! Blah blah blah don't want it in the preview...

No she is not Lydia. That's impossible. We know how Enid's parents died, and we know the first people she encountered after their deaths were the inhabitants f Alexandria. She was wearing the same outfit as she was when her parents died, and it was clear that only a few days or weeks had passed.

This was all on screen, we saw it in a long flashback.



If we hadn't seen Enid's back story on screen and her origins were still mysterious then it might have been possible. But the episode JSS proved otherwise.

Hmmmm, I'm still not ready to throw away my idea on Enid.
Anyway, there has been a confirmed death scene filmed! Or rather...there has been a death scene filmed for all 11 people in the lineup, who have been "killed" to throw off spoilers. So did Glenn die? Yup. Daryl? Yeah. Michonne? Rick? Abraham? Yeah. Everybody. So hopefully when the BluRay box set comes out we'll get to see every death that was filmed and how each reaction went. They also put out a C&D on the biggest rumor monger/spoiler site. So I think it's safe to say we really won't get it spoiled who died.
My bet is still on Michonne.

Well, we do know for sure who DIDN'T die. Certain actors were spotted filming new scenes for the next season, so their characters are definitely alive. I doubt the smoke and daggers would extend to filming scenes for a character that's already dead.


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I think it was Abraham.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Well, we do know for sure who DIDN'T die. Certain actors were spotted filming new scenes for the next season, so their characters are definitely alive. I doubt the smoke and daggers would extend to filming scenes for a character that's already dead.


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I think it was Abraham.

I had something written, and my damn phone did a hard reset. Blah. Anyway, they're also filming every episode out of order to hide it, and all dead characters have had flashbacks. So it's still pretty up in the air for a lot of them. Certain characters have been filmed in new territory, which likely rules them out...but not 100% certain. However, there was a huge cast pic that went up, and Carl was strangely absent...
The only thing I dislike about their act of secrecy is the C&D attack against their biggest fans. It could have the potential to cause some really bad blood.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Well, we do know for sure who DIDN'T die. Certain actors were spotted filming new scenes for the next season, so their characters are definitely alive. I doubt the smoke and daggers would extend to filming scenes for a character that's already dead.


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I think it was Abraham.

Flashbacks are a thing in WD

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Well, we do know for sure who DIDN'T die. Certain actors were spotted filming new scenes for the next season, so their characters are definitely alive. I doubt the smoke and daggers would extend to filming scenes for a character that's already dead.


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I think it was Abraham.

Heh.

Apparently, they came out and said that they have filmed deaths for every character.

I'm still betting Glenn's luck ran out.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Well, we do know for sure who DIDN'T die. Certain actors were spotted filming new scenes for the next season, so their characters are definitely alive. I doubt the smoke and daggers would extend to filming scenes for a character that's already dead.


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I think it was Abraham.

Heh.

Apparently, they came out and said that they have filmed deaths for every character.

For last season.

I'm talking about next season. Certain actors have been spotted and photographed filming new scenes entirely unrelated to the Negan execution scene. They might take several takes of that scene with different outcomes, because that doesn't cost too much. But they're not going to waste part of next Season's budget paying an actor to film new scenes for future episodes when that character is dead.

Granted, it could be a flashback though.

Remember when nobody saw Steven Yuen on set after his "death"?

Just because certain actors have been spotted and photographed filming new scenes doesn't mean anything. It just means that certain actors have been spotted and photographed filming new scenes.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Remember when nobody saw Steven Yuen on set after his "death"?

Just because certain actors have been spotted and photographed filming new scenes doesn't mean anything. It just means that certain actors have been spotted and photographed filming new scenes.

Yes it does, it means that those particular actors who have been spotted have not been killed off (or at the very least are filming flashback scenes).

So if we don't even know if the characters that are being filmed are dead or not(since they can be flashbacks and whatnot), we can't really draw any conclusions about who ended up tasting the bat.


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Although if they're putting this much effort in keeping it a secret I imagine they won't follow the comics. All the extra deaths they filmed plus C&D a fan site seems like a bit much for an ending that's already spoiled.

Unless that's what they want you to think! It's all smoke and mirrors!

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Remember when nobody saw Steven Yuen on set after his "death"?

Just because certain actors have been spotted and photographed filming new scenes doesn't mean anything. It just means that certain actors have been spotted and photographed filming new scenes.

Yes it does, it means that those particular actors who have been spotted have not been killed off (or at the very least are filming flashback scenes).

You do know that not every moment of filming is spotted/photographed yeah?

They have a crazy security setup around their sets.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Remember when nobody saw Steven Yuen on set after his "death"?

Just because certain actors have been spotted and photographed filming new scenes doesn't mean anything. It just means that certain actors have been spotted and photographed filming new scenes.

Yes it does, it means that those particular actors who have been spotted have not been killed off (or at the very least are filming flashback scenes).

You do know that not every moment of filming is spotted/photographed yeah?

They have a crazy security setup around their sets.

So? I never said that.

What I have said, ad nauseam, and what people are still failing to comprehend, is that particular actors have been spotted, in costume, filming scenes for the next season. That is strong evidence that their particular characters are likely to have survived last seasons finale.

They werent n spotted on a set, they were spotted on location. There's a big difference there.

I'm still betting on it being Eugene that died. That feels right based on Neegan's comment about whoever it was taking it like champ. He would have expected most of the group to take it like a champ based on their hardened condition.

That said I'm pretty good with whoever goes. I'm just excited for it to come back so we can have more good TV because Fear isn't quite doing it for me and Preacher is moving a bit slowly to start.

This is exactly what those cliffhanger bastards want us to do! That being said I think it's going to be Glenn. That's why they did so many fake out Glenn deaths, so they could surprise us with an actual Glenn death!

Actually, it seems a bunch of people are getting behind the Michonne idea. She's a badass and it would send one helluva message to Rick. Plus no awkward future love triangle as she's supposed to start a relationship with someone else. Actually, I much prefer tv Michonne. Comic Michonne is kind of a slut.

...you know what?

You might be on to something there!

Michone getting offed would really, really deal a blow to Rick, and set him way back - really shatter his confidence, and lead to needing allies from the Hilltop and...possibly that 'other place' that they may have met someone from in the finale...

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Actually, it seems a bunch of people are getting behind the Michonne idea. She's a badass and it would send one helluva message to Rick. Plus no awkward future love triangle as she's supposed to start a relationship with someone else. Actually, I much prefer tv Michonne. Comic Michonne is kind of a slut.

Really - a Slut? What do you mean ?

Considering what she went through at the hands of the Governor she was understandably been reluctant to engage with anyone in that way as far as I recall?

 Mr Morden wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Actually, it seems a bunch of people are getting behind the Michonne idea. She's a badass and it would send one helluva message to Rick. Plus no awkward future love triangle as she's supposed to start a relationship with someone else. Actually, I much prefer tv Michonne. Comic Michonne is kind of a slut.

Really - a Slut? What do you mean ?

Considering what she went through at the hands of the Governor she was understandably been reluctant to engage with anyone in that way as far as I recall?

Even before the governor, she was a bit of a "slut". Tyreese and Carol were in a relationship at the prison. Michonne showed up one day, seduced Tyreese and ended his relationship with Carol.



To be fair though, Michonne had spent a long time alone and was traumatised. Throwing herself at Tyreese was likely out of a desperate need for companionship.

There was Tyrese, then Morgan, then her attempt with Heath who told her "I've heard about you; I'm in a relationship, and I don't want to screw it up", then the guy we haven't met yet. She broke up one relationship, tried to break up another, and verbally bitch slapped and talked a third into it who wasn't ready yet after his own grieving processes. All cuz she was hungry for some sausage.

I'm not saying it's bad that she wanted companionship or to hook up...but she tries to drag two guys out of relationships, sleeps with one guy then runs away (the one we haven't met), and Morgan she kind of sexually attacks before he admits he's ready. She was definitely out taking advantage of guy she wanted.

Well that was a brutal episode. What did everyone think?

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Well that was a brutal episode. What did everyone think?

I thought they killed off the two most fun characters in the group, and now, more than ever, we're left with a bunch of mopedy-mopes.

Also, still felt there was no real need to keep the death reveals until the premiere, especially when it meant slowing down the finale so much. Otherwise, the episode did what they wanted it to do (bum you out).

Well...feth me.

My favorite character...the guy I saw a lot of myself in...he isn't there anymore.