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It must be a squat diorama.

 Cave_Dweller wrote:


Sadly, all I have at the moment is my kitchen table! I need to draft up some plans for a dedicated gaming table, I'm thinking 6x4.

Do it, you must

Ordered a mondo mega bitz bag from the war store...can't wait!

Got the smaller bits bag last year and it was excellent.

Had my first game with my daemons/chaos space marine force.

@ 1500 pts I had

Epidemius
Great Unclean one

20 plaguebearers

6 nurgling bases

CSM:

Typhus

7x plague marines w/ plasma gun & rhino

7x plague marines w/ 2 plasma guns & rhino

Vindicator tank

20 chaos cultists w/ 2 heavy stubbers

This was vs. codex marines and initially this battle went quite poorly for me, with the vindicator getting blown up on turn 2 (big surprise there, eh?) and a terrible deep strike mishap with epidemius and the plaguebearers. They ended up teleporting near a table edge into terrain, and were stuck there for the entire game doing nothing.

But, once the plague marines deployed from their rhinos, they soundly beat a squad of 10 assault marines and slew the chapter master, as well as wrecking a land speeder.

Nurglings didn't do much but managed to keep a squad of devastators locked in close combat and killed one, which kept them from firing.

The great unclean one prooved extremely hard for the space marines to deal with in close combat, and slew 3 devastators in one lucky round, routing the powerfist sgt from that squad.

Typhus blew up a razorback and then slaughtered the fleeing devastator sgt.

So, this is my first win in a long time. Definitely excited about that, as I'm not very good at actually playing 40k.

Overall I'd say the daemons were a dissappointment for me, due to my unfamiliarity with deep strike rules and how to effectively deploy them. It seems like a massive gamble and could go quite badly for you if your dice rolls suck. Daemons can also be completely screwed over by terrain, and I can see that boards with low terrain density would be better for those armies. But, I rather like to see awesome boards with lots of terrain. It's unfortunate that the rules work out that way.

Chaos space marines on the other hand were a vision in battle! The plague marines were the undisputed champions of the battlefield, and seriously angered my opponent. They are pretty damn hard to kill, even in close combat by assault marines. Well worth their points and probably a good idea to get more.

Typhus is also a total bad ass and it might even be worth getting a land raider to get him into battle faster, perhaps.

Also, I picked up a forgefiend kit and can't wait to nurgleify it!

Been a while since an update. I've finished my plague marines and plague bearers, as wel as the 20 chaos cultists with auto guns I bought off eBay. In between sessions of work and saints row III, which is a ridiculously underrated and disturbing game!

Also got a mega mondo bits bag during Black Friday from the war store. I've bought a bits bag from them before, but this was a mondo mega bits bag, and much more expensive. Like, 70 bucks expensive.

What I received, was a bloated bag of bits in a large box, along with the crappy November issue of white dwarf.

The bits were quite dense and varied, yet with a heavy bias towards space marines. I received a complete rhino kit, several decal sheets, a template weapon sprue, many good space marine weapons including an abundance of plasma pistols--several of which were customized with blood Angels junk--and more space wolf chain fists, power fists, lightning claws and assault cannons than I can shake a heavy flamer at, an item which also was included in abundance.

All in all, it was worth buying. And I haven't even listed the fantasy items I received. Enough spears, swords and bows to equip a small army with.

But it wasn't just random bits, I can actually complete at least 8-10 space marines, 6 or so imperial guardsmen and many fantasy characters. I mainly plan to use this stuff to make conversion models for wargaming, RPGs or jut plain fun.

We all are in this for the fun, right?

Well, I haven't done fucl all this week. Work, work and work have been keeping me quite busy.

Actually it's not entirely true. I did do some greenstuff work on my Great Unclean One, which I now realize is a total badass space marine killing machine. I'll post a pic later.

Mainly, I've succumbed to PC gaming. I've played a hell of a lot of Saint's Row 3, which is an excellent game, and I beat it.

I've also exhumed Mass Effect 2 off my recently-repaired gaming PC, and been continuing a game I last played in ought-ten! This is a great game, very enjoyable on every level.

Also, Phoenix HD has been occupying a great deal of idle moments on my i-devices. If you love classic shoot em up type games, wow this is a good one!

And well, geez, that sums it up. Little productivity, but lotsa gaming! =)

Ok, another update. PC gaming and sega genesis have pretty much killed my painting activities. It's a cycle. Beat mass effect 2, now onto mass effect 3 which is mind-blowingly awesome! I just can't get enough, and the end of year steam sales have encouraged me to buy more PC games now that my gaming rig is operational. Tsk tsk.

Model-wise, I purchased a chaos rhino with my companies seasonal gift card, so now I have two rhinos to build for my chaos marines, and a forgefiend, however I discovered the base for that model is deformed. The plastic is all bent out of shape. A friend recommended I call GW for a replacement. Think I will, as that is an expensive model.

Also, genghis con is coming up soon for us Coloradans, and I really enjoyed competing in the painting competition last year. I have several mashinen krieger models I want to enter, all of which are still in box, and I think the groberhund is the one I want to do most. It's a sweet, very detailed ww2 themed sci if scale model kit, that has nothing to do with wargaming that I really want to complete.

After the severe and brutal defeats I suffered last year, I'm not sure I want to compete in the 40k tourney, as it is extremely competitive and cheesy, and you need to have mastered the rules quote thoroughly. With only 2 games of 6th Ed under my belt, I'd be cannon fodder with my flegdling and poorly understood chaos army. I'll leave that to the grey knights and blood angels players.

But still, I will be there and play many board games and other games and see old friends and make new nerdy friends!

Another long overdue progress update. My chaos force has grown considerably.

I now have 20 plague bearers, 14 plague marines, 6 bases of nurglings, a great unclean one, 2 rhinos, 20 cultists and a forgefiend in the works. Still need a proper model for typhus and epidemius, although I may just skip them since i have proxies that I'm quite proud of.

Also, I bought an airbrush! Got a sweet deal on Amazon for a Badger Patriot 105, and a pasche dual-piston compressor. I love this thing, it makes sweet paint jobs, although I still have much to learn.

So, here's a bunch of pics.

First up is a Great Unclean One custom model I've been working on. I've done a lot of greenstuff work on him, to get him properly Nurglified. This model is actually a Reaper troll king or somesuch, won him as a prize at Genghis Con last year.



And here he is with a basic paint job, still a lot of detailing and gore to add:





And here are my cultists. I basically just dipped them all. Although they are nice models, they were very tedious and boring to paint!





And a pic of my army as it stands thus far!



I also ordered a MEGA bits bag from the warstore during thanksgiving, and holy crap did it contain a lot of bits. They also included a White Dwarf, shown for scale here.
I ended up sorting them all and it took days, and there were quite a lot of nice, quality and rare bits in there, definitely worth it.



Ok, next up are two rhinos, one I bought and one was with the bits bag, complete, that I just added chaos bits to.

I wanted to make them as corroded and nasty as possible, and attempt the salt weathering technique. So, the airbrush was needed to do this well IMO.

First, I primered them with a heavy duty Krylon outdoor paint. On top of this I added some highlights and variations with lighter ochre colors, to break up the oxidation color a bit. Then I hit them with a heavy layer of aquanet hairspray and dusted them liberally with salt. In retrospect, I would have used even more salt.



Next I gave them a basecoat of Tamiya Olive Drab paint with the airbrush. I wanted a nice dark green for this phase.



Then I followed up with various Citadel paints to bring the colors up a notch, and give some variation to the paint job, to make it less uniform.



Then I was experimenting with spraying on some devlan mud and more citadel paint. And then I washed one under some mildly warm tapwater in my sink. Well, I discovered the devlan mud washed off completely as well as the salt. It was a total leap of faith. But it wasn't a total loss, as after I took a toothbrush to the model and scrubbed off all the salt, it left the citadel paint job totally distressed and nasty looking. Just what I was after!

Here's a side by side comparison:



Next I spent some time adding more washes and streaks to the models with Track Rust, an enamel wash from AK Interactive. It's really good stuff and gives them a delicious grime layer:



For the final phase, I used Windsor and Newton artists oils to create weathering streaks down the hull, as if from rain etc. I also added some AK Interactive weathering powders: rust and exposed metal weathering.







Carefully chipped and weathered decal:









Both tanks side by side:



Well, that's all for now!

Now THAT'S All-Madden team! Great job!

Great job, those are some suitably disgusting vehicles to get Papa Nurgle's minions to their destinations.

The salt technique is something I want to try out too. I agree with you that more salt might have been a good idea. Then again it might have distracted from their slimyness. I guess it's all about finding the sweet spot to achieve the desired amount of rust.

Did you varnish the model before you tried to take the salt off? I remember that was a really important part of the couple of tutorials I've read/watched. If not that might have been why you lost your wash in the water and the paint was roughed up by the toothbrush. Luckily you got a nice distressed effect anyway. It would have been heart breaking if it had ruined all your hard work.

Everything else looks great too, keep it coming!

 Casey's Law wrote:
Great job, those are some suitably disgusting vehicles to get Papa Nurgle's minions to their destinations.

The salt technique is something I want to try out too. I agree with you that more salt might have been a good idea. Then again it might have distracted from their slimyness. I guess it's all about finding the sweet spot to achieve the desired amount of rust.

Did you varnish the model before you tried to take the salt off? I remember that was a really important part of the couple of tutorials I've read/watched. If not that might have been why you lost your wash in the water and the paint was roughed up by the toothbrush. Luckily you got a nice distressed effect anyway. It would have been heart breaking if it had ruined all your hard work.

Everything else looks great too, keep it coming!

Hey thanks Casey. I didn't varnish them before washing. I was thinking if I did this, it may have sealed the salt in and prevented it from washing off. I'm not sure if there is a 'right' way to do this, as it all depends on the effect you want. It also requires some experimentation. And there are several variations on the technique.

As it stands I'm pretty damn pleased with the result, as I got the nasty textured look I wanted. But you're right, that would suck to ruin a more valuable model than these rhinos...

And you should definitely give this a try, it was a lot of fun and really cool to see them come to life.

Next step for these are the headlights and spotlights. I've previously just given them a lame coating of sunburst yellow and called it good.

This time I'm going to try making them look like headlights that aren't turned on. This will be a lot harder but I hope it will look better than trying to paint lights, or doing OSL and messing it up!

Salt weathering / rust effect looks great! I've used a similar process on my terrain and was happy w/ how it came out but your technique yields some results I want to replicate.

Subbed and will be back!

 Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:
Salt weathering / rust effect looks great! I've used a similar process on my terrain and was happy w/ how it came out but your technique yields some results I want to replicate.

Subbed and will be back!

Well thanks, glad you liked it. Let me know how it goes. I think this is actually not that complex, and much easier than trying to paint realistic chips, which is very time consuming and requires a lot of skill to pull off well.

Now, painting unlit headlights...ugh. Tried it tonight, and I less than satisfied. I'll post some pics tomorrow, but they didn't turn out how I wanted, that's for sure.

Allrighty then! Finished up them chaos rhinos, will take some pics soon.

Now I've gotten some modelers ADHD and have too many projects going on at once. Had a primered Cato and Pedro sitting on my shelf for ages, so attempting them with the airbrush. Also got a forgefield cooking, and a deimos(?) pattern rhino, the old-school looking one from forge world.

This model is sweet looking, but my inexperience with resin caused me to make some blunders here. Namely, the resin grease caused my primer to crack and flake off, much to my distress. So I scrubbed it vigorously with a wire brush and soap and stuff and hope that did the trick.

On the forgefield and this rhino I'm doing the salt weathering again, so wish me luck!

So I've been working on a number of things lately. A Chaos Forgefiend has proven to be a challenging yet excellent model to build. GW really did a cool job on this model, and I appreciate how they made it easily magnetizable. I plan on getting at least one more, maybe run 3 in my army for maximum firepower!

Also been trying to finish up some neglected stuff, mainly my Octoberforce marines. I got fairly burned out painting orange, and on space marines in general.

But I had an old pewter captain I stripped and will now count-as Cato Sicarius, same weapons and everything. Also have had Pedro assembled and primed for a long time, so wanted to finish him as well.

I've been using my airbrush on all of these models extensively. I'm very pleased with the results, but I still have a lot of bugs to work out. I live at 8500ft and paint dries very fast here, and I've had a lot of issues with the airbrush clogging, paint spattering etc.

Here's cato and pedro:



The forgefiend. I primered it with some outdoor grade primer to simulate rust and went with the salt weathering technique a lot. I really love the results I'm getting!



Now this is a Forgeworld Diemos pattern rhino I've had primered forever. I also bought a dozer blade and twin linked assault cannon upgrade for it from a Polish modeller. I wanted this to be a very tactical vehicle I could run as a plain rhino or as a razorback, intended for a quad-plasma gun command squad.

But I ran into some severe problems with oil on the resin. I didn't realize you had to wash this stuff off very well and my white primer ended up peeling and looking like crap. So I got frustrated and shelved it for like, a year.

So I ended up scrubbing off most of the white primer and cleaning the resin oil off, and re-primered it with the rust color.



On top of this I airbrushed some other ochre colors to break it up a bit. You can see the paint spattering issues here on the front, but in this case I don't mind as it makes the rust effect a bit more spotty.



I wanted to do the interior on this one as well!





Scratchbuilt twin linked lascannon!



Here's everything with the salt applied. I've gotten the best results with aquanet hairspray as the adhesive. I'm using a mix of coarse sea salt and equigranular table salt.



I beat up the forgefiend during assembly with gouges, scratches and bullet holes.



Airbrushing. Still getting issues with too much or too little paint flow.



Pre-washing. I broke up the tone of the orange to make it look less flat.



Post washing. I really went almost too far with the weathering on this rhino I think. Still I think it looks cool though.



Magnetized dozer blade and assault cannons. I love the look of this tank!



I'm quite pleased with how the lascannon looks.



And here's the forgefiend post washing. Love how nasty it looks, like the nurgle energies are slowly rotting the metal!



Here it is with the plasma cannons.



Working on the metal details. This was a very time-consuming paint job. First I hit it with a light layer of chaos black.



Following up with a thin layer of tin bitz.



And finally chased up with a thin layer of brass.



Then I liberally washed the entire model with AK interactive track wash, an oil based wash that gives great looking results.

Really excellent weathering - thanks for the step by step shots as well!

What a great vlog - love the recent work and also the amazing rogue trader stuff way back in the beginning!

First rate weathering, those vehicles look really excellent. I've had mixed results with salt weathering, I think you have got a really nice contrast between the rust and paint hues and that's one of the most important things. I don't think I would have tried brown rust with a yellow paint job, but it looks great.

The weathering looks great, really impressed with the forgefiend.

Mate, you're rocking my world somewhat. Those are some great looking models.

Hey thanks for all the comments. It's a really good technique and I think it looks very appropriate in the grimdark 40k setting.

Here's an updated pic of Cato and Pedro, but to be honest I'm finding it hard to be really enthusiastic about painting them. It feels like a chore.



And now onto the Forgefiend, it's pretty much done. I'm tempted to add an evil red glow to the eyes, but I'm pretty damn pleased with how it looks now.

I applied a verdigris wash to the brasswork, just to give it an extra level of corrosion. Only thing that remains is to detail the base and clearcoat it, but its too cold for that. Probably wont be able to clearcoat till march-april with these temperatures outside. Can lead to bubbling/frosting of clearcoat, and I don't want to ruin this model after all this work.

Who wants some of this?



The autocannons are brutal weapons, and look very menacing



The backside sorta reminds me of a shrimp or lobster



And with the plasma cannons





Close up detail



The chaos symbol on the top is just sweet looking

I would lay myself in front of your Forgefiend to have it trample on me and shoot the snot outta me and be damn thankful for the opportunity! Very nice! I've been eyeing it up in the store but I have way too much other stuff to do right now, but I shall dream well tonight.

Can you do me a favor? Pose a space marine by that beast, so I can get a sense of scale? And is that the base that came with it? If so, what size is it?

Thanks!

 Briancj wrote:
Can you do me a favor? Pose a space marine by that beast, so I can get a sense of scale? And is that the base that came with it? If so, what size is it?

Thanks!

It is indeed the base that comes with the kit. I believe it's the same one as used in a storm raven or IG valkyrie. Large oval base. I'll take a pic of it next to a marine sometime, but the kit is about the size of a rhino, more or less.

Taking some of this stuff up to Denver today for Genghis Con. I had a lot of fun in the painting competition last year and hope to have fun today! Gotta put on some last last last minute details here and hit the road in a few hours. Wish me luck!

Hope it goes well, pal. Good luck!

Good luck, I hope your taking the Forgefiend he looks amazing. Love the corrosion effect you've done on it.

Thanks guys, and yes I did bring the Forgefiend, after a feverish session of last minute detailing! Also brought one of my Nurgle Rhinos, my Infinity mecha, and a diorama I made that doesn't really have anything to do with wargaming, but is in the sci-fi vein.

And I couldn't believe I got two 1st place trophies! The competition is always stiff at these things, you really have to bring it. You could have many great painted miniatures, but you're competing against people who have excellent to jaw-droppingly awesome miniatures. I got blown out of the water in the single figure category, where I had my infinity mecha entered.

Anyway, here's some pics!



My UFO diorama, not a very good pic...





Looks like a cool Hirst Arts mold dungeon, 2nd place diorama if I remember right



This was the Masterclass stuff, very tight paint jobs. Winner got a free trip to the Crystal Brush competition



Some of the large figures





The looted ork flyer was 2nd in vehicles and the baneblade 3rd.

From the Rogue Trader 40k tourney, this army got voted best of show, and very deservingly:



And I really liked this Necron army.



The tourney sounded like total cheese, as they always are. There were at least 4 CSM-Necron hybrid armies there, and each one fielded 3 Heldrakes. People were bitching about this and flyers in general quite a lot.

I had a good time, spent a bit of money on more minis, really nice ones from up and coming indie sculptors, and won two boxed sets of some stuff I've never heard of before as prizes. One was a post-apoc car game called Warlands, and the other was a skirmish game not unlike infinity or necromunda. Both came with dice and rules etc, so might be worth a try when I get time to check em out.

Also played Zombies! And this really cool tetris like game, called Blokus, which was really fun with 4 people.

Sounds like great fun, mate. Congratulations on the well deserved wins. That diorama is really funky!