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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/01 12:37:50
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Fixture of Dakka
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Good to see you rollin' again Skalk. Nice recovery job on the bastion, turned it around real nice like. Rather like that last piece you showed too, even if if you consider it old and not-up-to-scratch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/01 17:38:10
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Xenohunter Acolyte with Alacrity
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Damn, dude. If anything, that mistake-turned-success makes that bastion look hard as nails. It's really been way too long since we had a game!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 18:34:56
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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@ Dave- I appreciate the thumbs up, I'm really putting some effort into bringing up the quality of my terrain and I know I'm on the right track.
@ monkeytroll- I'm really happy I was able to save it. If nothing else I could have Nurgled it up, but to date I have no interest in buying fortifications, I'd sooner choke the board w/ infantry and support. As far as the scratch build, see below.
@ Feldenglas- it looks better in person. We'll have to get a game on soon.
Small update today only becasue I'm burning time during lunch (I got to TAKE lunch, so that's a step in the right direction).
To everyone that likes my scrathbuilds, check these out. They are mostly made from bitz that I would not have used, and they are slotted for practice pieces for my wife and ktbb22. They couldn't beat me, so apparently they are going to join me.
Lots of Hurst and Pegasus on those, so technically it's not scratch, but it is an artistic application. It also reminds me of the stuff that Bruticus builds, and that's a good thing. I don't expect to see these on the 40K table but they would be perfect for Necromunda (which I'm going to start steering people towards. I'm sick of not playing it).
Last but not least, here's a shot of my best work to date. Note that my LoER piece is missing from these photos. Had to change the base to meet new base regs for the 40K table, it will be back before too long.
Thanks for looking, and I'll be back soon (I hope).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 18:51:13
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Impressive work Skalk.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 19:01:11
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Fixture of Dakka
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Nice! I like the small pieces, I see no reason not to use them with 40k - although that's speaking with 20 yar old 'logic' towards what should be on a table
But the thought of more 'munda styled terrain from you is certainly appetising
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 19:30:05
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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They look great Skalk!
Find me one city in the entire world where all the architecture matches...Now, since you can't...  Let's un-brainwash ourselves to think all 40K cities should look alike.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 22:04:19
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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@ Gits- Thanks! Appreciate you stopping by. I'm really trying to step up to the next level. I'm getting closer w/ every piece I do, but I still haven't broken the barrier. Too many of my successes have been due to fortunate happenstance. Even with what I've learned so far I still find myself tripping over the same old mistakes. I can't tell you how many times I've built something, gotten to the primary color base, and then tore it apart because I realized I'd made a n00b mistake.
@ monkeytroll & Dave- I'm kaing the board match with a specific and deliberate purpose. I'm not opposed to throwing out more random pieces for a game, but I'm really trying... ahem... "forge a narrative" with my primary terrain. I'll work on the fluff and it will make a lot more sense. However, in a Necromunda game I'd be a lot more eclectic and that would match the spirit of the game 100%.
if you need truly varied terrain from me, I re-submit this:
Muuahhaha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 22:07:22
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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What's the straw lying across the boxes & bog roll behind the cup on the cup thingie supposed to be??
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/05 21:36:47
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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That's looking very nice indeed, and the shot of the four finished buildings is great!
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Theophony"... and there's strippers in terminator armor and lovecraftian shenanigans afoot."
Solar_Lion: "Man this sums up your blog nicely."
Anpu-adom: "being Geek is about Love. Some love broadly. Some love deeply. And then there are people like Graven. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/05 21:49:56
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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those three small terrain pieces look really damn fine... lots of rust i expect there? for what fluffy use these might find a prupose i can´t figure out ... but i think it isn´t really needed to find a purpose for these... the look cool and thus they have purpose.... imagine if all the cool looking people out there would have to be for a certain purpose...and lacking that... would have to be done in  .... well... ok... that theory has it´s flaws...hell... death to cool looking people i say!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/07 20:40:07
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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@ Gits- I have no idea. Really.
@ graven- Thanks, I really enjoyed setting that up. Only 'problem' now is what to do about the rest of the table. Look at all that open space! I guess I'll have to do more modeling.
@ Vik- I have no idea what will become of those, all i did was build them. The artistic expression that will be visited upon them will not be from my hands. As far as the fluff goes, I agree that not everything has to match, and in the 'real world' it normally doesn't, but on this project I'm drawing from my military experience where (at least from installation to installation) everything looks like it was stamped from the same cookie cutter ( STC anyone?) and that is the idea here. There will of course be the variances in each design, and 'important' buildings will at times be significantly different in design, there's always a distinct and unquestionable cohesion that ties it all together with .
Not an 'update', just a 'catch up'. I'm so far behind in posting here. I have nothing new to offer but I have some things from a couple weeks back I wanted to share.
SUPPLY DROP!!!
I posted a while back I had won this. I really scored on this auction. Check this out (also note the newly designated paint pot tray  )
Shrine, and I think all the pieces are there? Not sure. It's wicked cool for what it is though. And there's more!
Manufactorum bitz:
rooftop / walkway bitz:
Random vehicle bitz:
That was all in the same box. Plus on the same day this showed up:
All together, this is what I picked up:
I thought about just gluing it all together and calling it done, but I decided to do something a bit more creative with it.
I've got some more work done but need a full day to sort through pics and upload a post that makes a bit of sense. I'm buried in pictures and notes to sort out.
Last night I could have modeled but did a desk reorg instead. I went through old paint pots, brushes, glue tubes, blades, etc. I threw out a lot of stuff and created a decent amount of space... FOR NEW STUFF! Naw, just kidding. Ok, sort of not. I found a Bastion at my FLGS for $30 instead of the $40+ it's selling for nowadays, so I bought it. Not going to be opened up soon, but I will get to it and will be happy for the $$$ I saved when I do.
I have 1/2 day off on Monday. I was at a 'use it or lose it' w/ my time off so I'm burning up 6.5 hrs and will hopefully get some modeling done.
Thanks for looking, I'll be back!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/07 20:49:03
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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color me envious with that suply drop...!
and:
I thought about just gluing it all together and calling it done, but I decided to do something a bit more creative with it.
lol.... yeah glue it... prime it and then just drybrush it^^...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/07 21:02:09
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Nice drop there Skalk! GW terrain kits are best bought like that then stashed away for a later project. What makes you think that just because you have it that it needs assembled right away? I say save them until you have multiples. Bastion bitz are some of the most useful bitz GW makes, they are compatible with ALL of the other CoD panels in your wonderful pile there.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/07 21:24:27
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/12 03:22:56
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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@ Vik- sometimes I feel like that's what I'm doing anyway.
@ Dave- Everythng I have is marked for a project. I have no idea what that project is or when I'll get to it, but it's all going to be used for... uhm... something. Eventually. Probably. And no, my new toy has not arrived yet. Here's the latest update:
Date Time Location Status
December 7, 2012 18:16:00 CHICAGO, IL 60647 DISPATCHED TO SORT FACILITY
*twitch*
I had 1/2 a day off yesterday and decided to take a break from the Imperial Sector stuff I've been working with, have hit a bit of a snag w/ staying focused so I worked on an old piece I've had for a few years.
This is what was showing up on my table. The platform is from a MircoMachines set I picked up in the 'free' pile at a yard sale. The base is a small piece of plywood.
Functional and sort of cool, but bland. I would put a few things on it like crates or barrels to liven it up a bit, but overall it was still pretty basic. Time for a renovation. First step was to cover the plywood. I used this style of plasticard because it was the only stuff I had enough to cover the entire base.
Fast forward a bit, didn't want to bore people to death with the minutia of adding little bits here and there. Here's the final build completed. The tank is from an HO scale train (and was frequently used on this piece so it was a slam dunk to make it permanent), the other bits are random Pegasus Hobbies sets. There's also a WFB shield and a Leman Russ track roller in there.
Fast forward again. This is where the project is at, I took these pics about 20 min ago. Please understand that the glare from my lamps is making this REALLY shiny, IRL it looks much better. Not sure how to dim the glare. Any suggestions?
I really like how the valve wheel came out, and the rust on the grates is decent. The small pitted rust spots on the tank are coming along as well. I have NO idea what to do w/ the base or the platform. I don't want to slobber rust all over it, but I don't want it looking too clean either. Suggestions?
Work and home are still beating me down. I'm not on Dakka anywhere near what I would like to be. A lot of you have great projects that I'm totally missing out on, and when I do have some unexpected free time I'm modeling instead of posting. I will catch up as soon as I can. Until then, know that I'm thinking of you guys and I miss being part of the fun. Really looking forward to getting back here and catching up.
Thanks for looking, C&C directly requested as I'm running low on ideas on what to do w/ the platform and the base. I'll check out comments at work during break and I'll be back as soon as I can.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/12 04:53:50
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Your work is just getting better and better buddy!
Did you use movement trays for the flooring?
My only critique is more weathering on the tank. It needs a accent color or something like aggressive weathering to break up the giant red tank. maybe even hazard stripes.
Keep up the great work!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/12 13:11:23
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Looking awesome! HO scale stuff like that works well because it doesn't have any scalebuster details. Rivets are universal. I'd crack or damage a few of the tiles, make them look like industrial or concrete tile with some variety then at least hit the recessed parts with a wash or two.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/12 13:46:43
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Fighter Ace
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Garbage all over i say... and matrasses and sofas
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Eh...
Inmygravenimage: That's sweet dude. I bet her ass is bad...
Camkierhi - What a load of rubbish... Amazing!
Rogue Wolves - Its rediculous how much character you pack into those guys
Skalk Bloodaxe: I know those will be awesome when finished, but right now they look like crackers.
Necro-pocalypse weirdness:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424470.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/12 14:17:47
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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@ Marty- Thanks for the compliment! I'm really trying to step up, and I'm glad it is starting to show. As for the tank, I agree that overall it needs a bit more obvious corrosion, and I'm going to do hazard stripes that cover the seams of the tank, like this:
@ Dave- I really try to avoid things that ruin scale perspective. The floor might have to come up in the areas where vehicles pulled in for refuel and I'll rout is out just slightly and use a hair dryer to mold the plastic into the ruts. I would really have preferred asphalt, and of course now that I am thinking about it if I had used a single sheet of blank plasticard I could have replicated that surface, with the obvious repave and fill-ins. It also just occurred to me that I need to have caps for the underground tanks, each a different color, discoloring on the pavement to show fuel spills, maybe traffic markings to show where to pull up, where to not drive, etc. Hmm. (thinking about how to make that happen... looks like I'll be tearing up some stuff)
@ MauS- I'll leave the garbage, mattresses, and sofas to this guy. But you have given me an idea. Debris like crumpled papers, etc in the edges of the platform... a Nuka Cola machine for refreshment while the vehicle crews are taking 5 during the refuel, the bottles RSJake gave me... that would really bring the detail and scale to life. Thanks for the idea! Now I have to go buy a Nuka Cola machine.
Thanks guys, really appreciate the feedback! It's given me some genuine inspiration.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/13 22:28:43
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Fixture of Dakka
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Looking sweet there Skalk!
I feel your pain at being off dakka atm, similar situation here and I know I'm missing loads. I'd leave some feedback, but tbh I'm not in a fit state to be in charge of a laptop atm, so really shouldn't be trying to critique anything
Incidentally, where was the valve wheel from - is that from the chemical factory set?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/13 22:36:35
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Skalk, loving your work as always. You inspired me to get off my backside and finish my Sanctum Sororitas, pics up in my blog. Thanks for pushing the terrain love!
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Theophony"... and there's strippers in terminator armor and lovecraftian shenanigans afoot."
Solar_Lion: "Man this sums up your blog nicely."
Anpu-adom: "being Geek is about Love. Some love broadly. Some love deeply. And then there are people like Graven. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/14 04:11:53
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Hmmm next time I'm at work I'll try to send you pics of the industrial tile (damaged) in front of where I work.
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Link to my Index Thread here on dakka
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/14 17:27:05
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Really liking the micro machine loading dock simple effective and unusual. Talking about the unique table you showed further down I still remember with fondness the Daemon World of coffee cups me and a mate played over when it was raining between us and the society terrain locker.
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"But me no buts! Our comrades get hurt. Our friends die. Falkenburg is a knight who swore an oath to serve the church and to defend the weak. He'd be the first to tell you to stop puling and start planning. Because what we are doing-at risk to ourselves-is what we have sworn to do. The West relies on us. It is a risk we take with pride. It is an oath we honour. Even when some soft southern burgher mutters about us, we know the reason he sleeps soft and comfortable, why his wife is able to complain about the price of cabbages as her most serious problem and why his children dare to throw dung and yell "Knot" when we pass. It's because we are what we are. For all our faults we stand for law and light.
Von Gherens This Rough Magic Lackey, Flint & Freer
Mekagorkalicious -Monkeytroll
2017 Model Count-71
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/14 20:18:10
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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@ monkeytroll- It's getting better. Work has been downgraded from "overwhelming" to "barely manageable". Looking forward to "almost normal" but at least I'm getting back to posting on other threads again. As for critique, this thrad will still be here once you're in a better state of mind to be operating your laptop
@ graven- I checked out your Sanctum Sororitas and my only critique is there wasn't a dead Space Nun. Other than that it's absolutely brilliant and if you'd be awesome enough to share your color technique I'm going replicate is once I start working on my Pegasus Gothic buildings.
@ Galorn- That would be very cool of you, thank you. As it is I have to stick w/ the tiles as I cannot remove them w/o destroying the entire sheet, apparently I glued it quite well.
@ Llamahead- Thanks for stopping by! It's always good to see you on Dakka. When I saw the loading dock in that free pile I instantly knew what I wanted to do with it, an unusual experience for sure. Usually I see something, say "wow, that could be something cool" and then it sits in my bin for 3 years.
The crown jewel of this post is likely going to overwhelm anything else I share, so it's coming last. I'll share the models first so you at least get to see them. Ha. I worked a bit on the Refuel Depot (that's what I've decided it is) and specifically put some wear on the tank. Remeber it's still a WIP and I know the hazard strip is too wide and messed up in a 'poor application' sort of way. It will be relaced. The underlying rust is going to be highlighted with a more orange around the edges and will also have some subtle colors (darker / lighter) in the larger patches. C&C welcome as always. Open to better ideas than what I'm doing at the moment.
I also made a trash can out of a fuel barrel. The bottles are from RSJake and are not glued in yet, they are just representational of what the final product will be. The inside debris will be painted. The can is going to get another 'once over' w/ coloring, will likely paint it yellow or a different shade of red. I really like the rust effect, it was actually a tester for the rust I was dabbing on the fuel tank. I added a tiny bit of GS to make an oily rag and there may be more GS on the bottom to show stuff that fell out. I may also cut a gap in the bottom w/ a Dremel tool (from the inside) to make the can look like it is rotting out. The cat hair was contributed by my cat Daemon (yes, that really is his name).
So that's the modeling part. The next is me finally able to share a 'secret' that only Dave knew about. I bought it based on his recommendation, and I am very much looking forward to learning how to use this. I have been working a ridiculous amount of OT at my job so I don't feel even one tiny little bit guilty about the expense. I have finally done somehting I've been talking about for over 2 years. I consider it a present from myself to myself because I am just that awesome.
Gentlemen, I proudly present the tool that will catapult me to the next level of modeling:
The compressor is a Badger TC910 ASPIRE PRO, the airbrush is a Badger PATRIOT 105 (in case you didn't see the name on the manual, ha), the hose is Badger 10' Heavy-Duty Braided Air Hose, and the cleaning kit is from Temptu.
Hopefully I'll avoid some of the airbrush n00b frustrations because I invested into a high-end product. All I need now is time to practice practice practice. I'll share my failures along the way so there's a history of my improvement as I become more familiar and skilled.
HUGE thanks to Dave for his recommendation, advice, and support. He truly exemplifies the spirit of community I enjoy on Dakka. LoER forever!
As always, thanks for taking the time to check this out and I appreciate the interest. C&C always welcomed. The experience you share helps me (and anyone that reads this blog) become a better modeler.
Today is a good day.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/14 20:46:07
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I like the carrier for the compressor. Reminds me that I need to figure out how to get my compressor hooked up to a proper tank.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/14 20:59:05
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Now that's an awesome update!! I can't wait to see your first painted project! Automatically Appended Next Post: Let me know how noisy/quiet that compressor is too!
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/14 21:02:54
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Fixture of Dakka
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Ooh, shiny!!
That compressor looks very cool, with the handle and the brush holders, all the best with getting to grips with the new toy, and looking forward to seeing your progress with it.
Love the peeling paint on the tank, nice work indeed, and the trash can looks very cool too - it's the gs rag and the gunk at the bottom which bring it to life - 'rotting out' the bottom is a great idea
Keep it coming man!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/14 21:05:30
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Great update, Skalk!
That trash can looks great. I like the rust effect and Dave's bottles will really set it off, once it is complete. The refueling depot is coming along nicely. I see what you mean about the hazard stripes, so I'll hold off on commenting about that, but I really like the red color of the tank, itself. I think the rust and chipped paint is looking good.
Big ups on getting an airbrush! Very excited to see what you start cranking out, now that you have the versatility of an airbrush to aid in your modelling. Congrats!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/14 21:22:24
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Executing Exarch
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That's a sweet kit you have on that airbrush looks very solid skalk!
on your modeling stuff really like the cans and the rust on the tanker is spot on. the cat hair is kind of a nice touch to like something is growing outta the can of stuff. just a thought if you decide to shave your cat for more hair
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/15 00:34:14
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Nasty Nob
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Nice rust. I like the way youve made the paint peel, works well
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