Zachariel wrote:
Thank you for the reply, I quite like the name, a stroke of genius after a night of painting. And for the 300 points, I'd rather put him as overcosted than under, seeing as I'd probably be lucky to field him as it is

As it stands here's how I view Jericho.

Vanilla,
WS 6 BS 4 Str 4 T 4 W 3 I 4 A 3 LD 10
frag and krak grenades, jump pack, ATSKNF, Power sword/plasma pistol

I'd say let's make it 120 points for vanilla.

20 points for Eternal Warrior
15 for fearless
40 for Sanctis (2+/3++ AND 4++ bubble, Not to mention I and T +1. Whoah!)
25 for Apollyon (str 6 master crafted power sword with fearless bubble)
15 for Duskbringer (hopefully I won't need this piece of wargear if the rumors about our upcoming codex prove true)
15-25 for Angelic Intervention (Maybe 25 points if it includes accompanying squad? assaulting deepstriking TH/SS and LC termies Makes me drool.)
25 points for Eye of the Lion (even with the 1 roll drawback, he either becomes more awesome on the charge, kills more stuff, or makes his squad as powerful as GK termies, as I'm planning a Termy Honor guard.)

275 points total If angelic intervention affects honor guard 260 if not, with 25-40 added for being a homebrew character, and voila!
I made guesswork on the points values for some of the rules though, as I am not versed completely yet in the way of the Spehss Mehrine.

 felixander wrote:

 Zachariel wrote:
Thank you for the reply, I quite like the name, a stroke of genius after a night of painting. And for the 300 points, I'd rather put him as overcosted than under, seeing as I'd probably be lucky to field him as it is

As it stands here's how I view Jericho.

Vanilla,
WS 6 BS 4 Str 4 T 4 W 3 I 4 A 3 LD 10
frag and krak grenades, jump pack, ATSKNF, Power sword/plasma pistol

I'd say let's make it 120 points for vanilla.

20 points for Eternal Warrior
15 for fearless
40 for Sanctis (2+/3++ AND 4++ bubble, Not to mention I and T +1. Whoah!)
25 for Apollyon (str 6 master crafted power sword with fearless bubble)
15 for Duskbringer (hopefully I won't need this piece of wargear if the rumors about our upcoming codex prove true)
15-25 for Angelic Intervention (Maybe 25 points if it includes accompanying squad? assaulting deepstriking TH/SS and LC termies Makes me drool.)
25 points for Eye of the Lion (even with the 1 roll drawback, he either becomes more awesome on the charge, kills more stuff, or makes his squad as powerful as GK termies, as I'm planning a Termy Honor guard.)

275 points total If angelic intervention affects honor guard 260 if not, with 25-40 added for being a homebrew character, and voila!
I made guesswork on the points values for some of the rules though, as I am not versed completely yet in the way of the Spehss Mehrine.

Sanctis is crazy under costed.
Artificer armor = 15 points
Storm Shield = 25 points
OH there's 40 points alone. Now you take into affect that you still get the +1 attack from two 1h weapons unlike the SS and then there's the bubble... OH YEAH AND THEN +1 T and Init.
As for Eye of the Lion... chance of +1W to the whole squad? Nope. I know you have the same chance of him being a lump of coal, but I think both sides of the table should be toned down a bit. Just imagine that 30 man Death Company + Librarian + etc all getting an extra wound

 Zachariel wrote:

Ouch, I just imagined it. Good news is that it won't happen since Jericho is a dark angel character

Seriously though. I'd perhaps change the 1 roll to a hit to deepstrike/LD penalty for a turn, depending on whether he started in reserves or not. Perhaps tone the 6 roll down to re-rolling failed LD and invuln rolls? Less powerful but getting another chance on the 5+ termy invuln would definitely help turn tables, of course it might still be OP.

Thank you for the criticism by the way, I am quite intent on making this character work, as I find his premise interesting and I wish to make my chapter a little bit more unique.

 Nightbringer's Chosen wrote:
The second in a series of characters I'm making up for the local group, converting models and giving rules to go along with them for friendly play, Tyranthia, Embodiment of the Aspects, an Eldar...well, ghost, I guess.
Made a thread for her, as I'm doing with the rest of this series, but thought to get some attention here as well, since no one has posted in either this or the first one I did (for Proteus, a Tzeentchian daemon).

The character is rather nonstandard, so I have no idea where to start on points, nor if some of her abilities are overpowered (or not useful enough).

 DemetriDominov wrote:
Writing this for three reasons:

Peer review for the lore.

Peer review for the stats..... and the connection between the two.

Aedes Centurions

Spoiler:

Elites

Aedes Centurion Praxi

WS - 5, BS - 2, Str 4 (5), T 3 (5), W 1 (3), I 4, A 4, Ld 8, Sv 4+

Aedes Centurion

WS - 5, BS - 2, Str 4 (5), T 3 (5), W 1 (3), I 4, A 3 Ld 8, Sv 4+

Composition:

1. Tribal Praxi
2. Centurion

Unit Type:

Infantry
Bear Calvary*

Wargear:
Augmented Carapace Armor (4+ Sv., Allows Aedes to mount Kuma to become Unit Type: Bear Cavalry* and grants base Str value)
Lunar Glaive - An immensely destructive power weapon that can focus it's electric charge into a focused lasbeam with the following ranged profile: R- 12", Str. 4, Ap 6
Frag Grenades

Optional: Kuma mount - The unit may count either as an Elite or Fast Attack Choice.

Special Rules:
Mounted (while mounted, may use the Str, T, and W values of the Kuma, but counts as very bulky.)
Furious Charge
Stubborn

Kuma - must be bought with a Centurion Rider

WS - 3 BS- 1 Str 5, T 5, W 2, I 4, A - 1*, Ld 6, Sv 6+

Wargear -

Sonic Roar - Template weapon Str. 5 ap 4

Upgrade - Anterio Iron Armor, grants a 4+ save.

Special Rules:
Stubborn
Furious Charge
Spirit Bond: The Kuma uses the Ld of it's rider so long as he remains in base contact.
*Bear Cavalry: Unlike other types of cavalry, Bear's (especially the Xenos species found upon the Aedes homeworld) are difficult to ride, and sometimes advantageous to simply abandon and unleash them upon the enemy while the Centurion fights alongside. Other times, such as a unit with the Smash or Strikedown ability, the Aedes may be thrown from his mount which happens automatically they suffer an unsaved wound. In either case, place the Aedes model next to the Kuma. The Aedes refers to the unmodified values of his profile for as long as he is separate from the Kuma. The Kuma gains four additional attacks to its profile so long as it is not mounted. The Aedes can opt to remount the Kuma at the begining of the movement phase before any movement occurs and may act normally. If the Aedes is slain before he can return to his mount, the Spirit Bond is broken and the Kuma will immediately become enraged at the death of his rider. For the next turn, the Kuma cannot not move from the base of it's rider. It becomes Fearless, gains the Rampage Special ability, and becomes a Monstrous Creature until the end of the turn. At the begining of the next turn, the Kuma gently picks up his slain rider in his jaws and flees the battle (remove both as a casualty.)

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 felixander wrote:

I read the TL : DR version of the fluff and I think it's definitely interesting!

I understand that the WS5 is probably supposed to signify man and bear fighting together, but I think that would be better represented by WS 4 with the extra attacks you've added, not both. You're going to have to tell those Grey Knight players as to why your dude on a bear is better than his Purifiers at close combat
S5 is reasonable (Mutant + bear) but getting +2 Toughness for the bear seems a lot. Space Wolves ride in on giant bionic wolves and only get +1T, I think you're better off with sticking with that. Same with 3 wounds. I think that if you really wanted T5/W3 you can do it, but the bears have to be modeled BIIIGGG and you will really need to cost up the guys a lot.
Lunar Glaives, what kind of power weapon? Just going to model them as you want or do they have set powers?
I'm assuming this is for Imperial Guard (which you never really told us)
I'd definitely put Kuma as simply an upgrade bear for a Praxi and post the stat line of a Praxi on her rather than making people assume what happens
Sonic Roar - Not too sold on it. I'd make it S3 AP6 and allow the rider to fire an additional weapon. I guess if you reallllly modified the model to make it obvious that's cool, but as is that's a really, really powerful growl. Killing Guardsmen on a 2+ to wound roll? Hrmm.
*Bear Cavalry rule, definitely interesting and adds some realism, but I'd remove it, personally.

 DemetriDominov wrote:
Writing this for three reasons:

Peer review for the lore.

Peer review for the stats..... and the connection between the two.

Aedes Centurions

Full History: (it's long, but trust in me, it's good.)

Spoiler:

Expats of the most ruthless ancient human Empires' that vied for control over of humanity during the Age of Strife, the warrior Aedes were not known as Centurions until relatively recently. They were once holistic and spiritual monks that had long grown tired of war, earning their sanctuary upon a paradise planet for enforcing the will of the ancient Korzack rulers known fearfully as the Zenamareka. Here, retired far from the centers of conflict, the Aedes enjoyed their peace, they abandoned their weapons with the promise of the Korzack's honor , held sacred above all else, to protect those that had built them an Empire. Holding true, the Korzacks protected their planet, allowing the Aedes to ignore the drawn conflicts of humanity's first struggles across the galaxy, instead studying the eb and flow of the warp by practicing a series of slow artistic movements that was believed to channel the energy of the universe directly into their being and achieve balance above all else. That was before the ancient Korzack rulers, the Zenamareka, returned to their haven, demanding that they serve in their armies to crush a rogue faction upon Terra led by a mysterious figure known only as The Emperor. The Aedes refused to lapse from their well earned retirement and take up arms once more, so the Zenamareka became tyrannical, for they feared that if anyone was capable of uniting humanity against their Iron rule among their vast Empire, it would be this clandestine upstart.

To the horror of the Aedes, the Zenamareka of the Korzacks set fire to the paradise world, devastating the Aedes's food supply and prized natural ecosystems they had learned to draw spiritual guidance from. Infuriated, but seeing no other choice they begrudgingly agreed to defend the Korzack Empire so long as they would never again call upon them, an agreement even the Zenamareka knew rang hollow. The ensuing war would have devastated the entire Segmentum Solar before the Emperor even left Terra had it not been for an individual known as Satasia who had heard of the brutality the Aedes had endured from the Zenamareka. Though she shared their blood as Baronness, she was not corrupted by the enticement of power the Zenamareka had long grown drunk from. Taking advantage of their arrogance and pride of their seemingly invincible nation as they mocked the Emperor's swift rise upon Terra, Satasia quietly contacted the Aedes in attempt to channel their anger to overthrow the tyrants of the Korzack people. They eagerly agreed, and to her surprise she found that their lack of weapons to no disadvantage, for their long meditations and studies of the warp were not just exercises into strive for inner peace, but a long held secret of martial art - balance, as well as chaos arise not from without, but from within.

Unarmed, but far from defenseless, Satasia used her Aedes to launch a revolt against the Tyrants of the Korzack people who fought as though the Zenamareka themselves were beneath their flesh, furious that Satasia would have the audacity to challenge their inescapable authority. Yet, the Aedes fought like nothing the galaxy, let alone the Zenamareka had ever seen, the balance between the Hellish Warp, and the divine wrath of humanity's presence there imbued in every blow with fury of an entire warpstorm. Legends tell that those Aedes who had truly mastered the art could rain blows upon plasteel and ferrocrete like medusa breacher shells, literally nothing stood before the ancient Aedes advance as the Korzack Empire folded upon itself. At the news of their repeated defeats, the Zenamareka grew desperate and paranoid as Satasia continued to march with her growing revolt back to the capital of the Korzacks. With their invincibility disproved in a crushing defeat upon the cusp of the inner rings of their realm, the Zenamareka Tyrants turned upon first upon the Korzack people as punishment for their failure. By their command, entire populations of Korzacks were swiftly exterminated on scale that would not be seen on again until the Age of Apostasy. When this lead to even more revolts, the Zenamareka turned upon each other, accusing the weaker lords of conspiring with Satasia against them. The civil war became wholesale slaughter as the Zenamareka devoured each other, their armies not stopping even after they achieved absolute victory over the civilian populace. In an act of valor that came to define her, Satasia sought to stem the bloodshed decimating her people and led the charge upon Anterio, the capital of the Korzacks, with two hundred billion Korzacks against nearly ten billion - all that remained of the trillions of Korzacks that once controlled much of the Eastern Stars. The battle raged nonstop for eight years to the day until finally, bloody and worn, Satasia lifted the last of the eight heads of the Zenamareka in triumph, her Aedes standing at her side.

Though only a few hundred thousand Korzacks remained of the most devastating civil war any single nation of man had ever, or will likely ever see again, there was an unrest at what had become of the Emperor. His armies were legion, aided by vast technologies that the Korzacks had all but lost in their attempt to destroy their tyrants, and even the Aedes were outmatched by the zealotry of the Emperor's most trusted servants, the Adeptus Astartes. Satasia knew she had no other choice, she must submit her people to a new tyrant and gamble their fates to an unknown ruler. When the time came, and Horus himself greeted Satasia into the Emperor's court, the integration of the Korzacks was uneventful, and the Aedes were allowed to return home, recognized and exalted for their efforts that paved the way for the Emperor's ascension. Yet, as the Imperium turned against itself the Aedes were forgotten, and left to watch from afar as their beloved Emperor's kingdom was laid low by the very person that had first ushered them into it. Centuries passed without a word to the Aedes, and darkness arose in the eastern lands of their own world as some Aedes dove too deeply into their studies of the warp. Madness echoed through the mountains there, spreading like fire as the Aedes once again were drawn to war, this time upon each other.

For the final time, the Aedes fought, and fought, and fought some more as the centuries dragged on and on. Technology disintegrated as the Aedes were pushed back by their brethren too far off the path of balance. Their culture fractured, their knowledge and art fell into myth, and legend. The Emperor was a mere distant tale of a God who could lift mountains into the sky, and paint the sun across the horizon. Centuries turned into millenia, until the Age of Apostasy almost four thousand years after the Aedes returned home, they were rediscovered by I Demetri Dominov, decedent of my mother, Satasia Dominov, who by that time had long passed into Sainthood. Though they no longer possessed the incredible skills of their mythical fore bearers, the Aedes Centurions as they became called in their rebirth were a force to be reckoned with even before my Korzacks equipped them to the standards fit for Imperial service to my Emperor. Now, trusted beyond any of my servants, they guard what any normal Korzack can not, and are forever idolized in my realm for their ancient traditions that span what knowledge we have lost in the vast eons we cannot know.

- Personal Log of Demetri Dominov to Inquisitor Faelgorion, Ordo Xenos, Pyscho-Lexiscribed by the Red Baroness M.41.00341

Stats (be sure you've read the Lore, you may not fully enjoy this part without it.)

Spoiler:

Lore Recap

The Aedes Centurions guard key installations of the Korzacks that are often so valuable they provide the means of survival for the entire population. As such, they are prized not only for their tireless valor, but also for their skills in close combat, as they are unparalleled in the Korzack military. This is important, because the Korzacks disdain all abhumans as they view them as mutants. Each squad not only hails from a different tribe who's traditions and taboos have been preserved by it's Praxi to be passed down upon to the next generation of orphaned Korzacks that will replace their ranks, there is a sense of brotherhood between all Centurions that echos even above the Adeptus Astartes the Aedes once worshiped as Gods, for each squad is often all that remains of the tribe and once slain the traditions are immediately passed to the next generation of recruits that often do not share any genetic resemblance to the original Aedes that had seeded the tribe - but are followed to a fault. The Aedes Centurions are adorned with thick carapace armor, made of Anterio Iron- a lightweight, flexible, and incredibly strong alloy they themselves are the keepers to the secrets of its manufacture. The Aedes are not especially good at ranged combat, but excel at bringing the fight to the enemy, particularly upon the backs of giant Ursa creatures known as Kuma's from their home world, whose earsplitting roars are rudimentary sonic weapons capable of mulching a grove of trees and anyone unfortunate enough to be standing within have made them the legendary symbol of the Korzack Imperial Guard.

Korzack special rule - The Korzacks abhor mutants, as they themselves have, by Inquisitorial mandate a forcibly administered genetic mutation that [Classified by Inquisitor Faelgorion]. Their twisted self image and constant belittling from those who are not Korzacks rises a strong self hatred that forms an undying prejudice towards all other mutants and those who label them as one. They will never ally with abhumans or their arch rivals, the Cadians under any circumstances who share in their hatred for one another that has lasted for well over six thousand years.

Elites

Aedes Centurion Praxi

WS - 4, BS - 2, Str 3 (4), T 4, W 1, I 2, A 2, Ld 7, Sv 4+

Aedes Centurion

WS - 4, BS - 2, Str 3 (4), T 4, W 1, I 2, A 2 Ld 6, Sv 4+

Composition:

1. Tribal Praxi
2. Centurion

Unit Type:
Korzack
Infantry
Bear Calvary*

Wargear:
Augmented Carapace Armor (4+ Sv. gives 4T, but loses 1 I)
Cresent Glaive - An immensely destructive weapon - Grants +1 to Str and Rending
Frag Grenades



Special Rules:

Furious Charge
Stubborn

Optional:

May have an additional 8 Centurions at 12 points per model

Kuma mount 30 points per model - The unit is now Cavalry and counts as a Fast Attack Choice.

Kuma - must be bought with a Centurion Rider

WS - 3 BS- 1 Str 5, T 5, W 3, I 4, A - 1*, Ld -*, Sv 6+

Wargear -

Sonic Roar - Template weapon Str. 4 ap 5

Upgrade - Anterio Iron Armor, grants a 5+ save.

Special Rules:
Stubborn
Furious Charge
Rending
Spirit Bond: The Kuma uses the Ld of it's rider.
*Bear Cavalry: Cavalry, must be modeled upon a 65mm base and cannot be transported. The Hammer of Wrath ability is resolved from the Kuma's profile. The Centurions may attack from atop their mounts using their own profile. They must attack the same target as the Kuma. If the Kuma is slain, so is the Centurion.

2;37 am here, Points values and other small edits will have to wait...

 CalasTyphon216 wrote:
Ahzek Ahriman, First Captain, Chief Librarian, Magister Templi of the Corvidae, Thousand Sons Legion

(pre-heresy)

Type: Infantry (unique)

240 points

WS6 BS5 S4 T4 W3 I5 A3 Ld10 Sv2+

Wargear: artificer armor, iron halo, master-crafted bolt pistol, frag and krak grenades

Staff of Ahriman: This is a master-crafted force stave. It allows Ahriman to nullify any enemy psychic power cast within 24 inches of him, on a 3+. Note that this is NOT a unusual force weapon.

Special Rules: Independent Character, Fearless

Master of the Corvidae: Ahriman is a level 3 psyker. He only has access to the lore of divination, however instead of rolling for his powers he may choose them.

Inner doubts: Ahriman is wary of using his powers, for fear of the flesh change. Every time Ahriman suffers a PoTW, he must, in addition to it's effects, pass a Ld test. If he fails, he may not cast any psychic powers for the rest of the game.

 Decio wrote:
^ That is why I said Strength 5; the Kuma would add to the rider's baseline for one statline is used for all situations,

 psychadelicmime wrote:
Absalom, Procurator of the Emperor's malice.

WS BS S T W I A LD SV
5 5 4 4 3 5 3 10 2+

wargear: 2 traitorbane plasma pistols, artificer armor, digital weapons, iron halo.

Special rules: Independent character, combat tactics, atsknf.

traitorbane plasma pistols: Traitorbane plasma pistols are extremely rare pre heresy plasma pistols that remove the gets hot rule.

points: 170 pts

what do you think?

 Ovion wrote:
No gets hot is probably worth 5pts for the pair tbh. (Tau Plasma Weaponry is -1Str with no Gets Hot! and costs 20pts each, so it's possibly even being generous.)
And Digital Weapons are 10pts.

Might as well make it an even 150 and call it a day, it's certainly not something people will really have a problem with facing at least.

 IHateNids wrote:
are SM captains BS/WS 5?

felixander wrote:

 Ovion wrote:
No gets hot is probably worth 5pts for the pair tbh. (Tau Plasma Weaponry is -1Str with no Gets Hot! and costs 20pts each, so it's possibly even being generous.)
And Digital Weapons are 10pts.

Might as well make it an even 150 and call it a day, it's certainly not something people will really have a problem with facing at least.

If you're actually gonna cost it then yeah 5 points. But you are talking about a 24" range weapon on a model with a 5+ save so it's fulfilling a very different role and it's a difference of a 33% chance to pass that armor save and a model with 2+ has a 83% chance of passing... very different!

I missed Digital weapons, good catch!

 ExNoctemNacimur wrote:
Prince Cairbre, vile Daemon of Riocht

Cairbre's origin is not really known. He didn't appear to be a resident in the Imperium because no record of him has been found either as a citizen, Guardsman or Marine. However, what is known is that he arrived on Riocht, the old Chapter planet for the renegade Trodai an Bas, accompanied by a band of Khornate Berzerkers. Showing his worth to the rebels many times over, he was eventually invited to become a member of the chapter and one of the Lords that governed it and its lands.

Points: 300
WS: 7 BS: 4 S: 8 T: 4 W: 5 I: 6 A: 6 (see below) LD: 10 SV: 3+

Type: Flying Monstrous Creature

Wargear: Cairbre's Spear, Shield of Aethalstan, Wings

Special Rules: Arrogant, Inspiring Aura, Eternal Warrior, Fearless, Mark of Khorne (included in profile), Rage, Counter-Attack, 5+ Invulnerable Save

Cairbre's Spear: Counts as Power Lance. In addition, when charged, Cairbre will strike first. Finally, if swooping, Caibre can throw the spear. It will inflict 3 S5 AP2 hits.
Shield of Aethalstan: A relic taken from the Sons of Aethalstan chapter. Once per battle, when your opponent(s) has resolved hits in either the Shooting or Assault phase,, Cairbre can raise this shield to grant him a 3+ Invulnerable Save.
Arrogant: If a character is present in a unit, Cairbre must challenge him. Cairbre may not refuse challenges.
Inspiring Aura: Every friendly unit within 12" gains the Fealess special rule.