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As mentioned, a single jet or two can be focused out of the sky with mass of fire, big airforces are getting out of hand though.

HOWEVER, sisters do have a slight advantage over some armies, because they often got plenty of TL guns on the field, and TL guns are the best way to score hits on aircraft without skyfire.

And when shooting at aircraft, the hit counts the most, the armor is usually light enough that even simple weapons threat it.

war wrote:
. .... I haven't faced a cron-air list or anything like that ....

I'm still having flashbacks from that one. It was brutal. I still almost pulled out a draw until my dice failed me in epic fashion (rolled snake eyes for move through cover then another one for my run) at THE critical moment, but such is 40k....

Amusing thing that usually takes out planes for me? Exorcists. S8 AP1 just seals the deal.

To learn about 6th ed I took my SOB army to my local game store for a game. The employer there said he'd show me the ropes...and brought out his tournament air cron army and tabled me so fast that I didn't even get to use all my units. Thanks guy, that'll keep me coming back for more games with all the fun I had and lessons learned. Beginner instruction: Fail.

Now fluff wise my SOB hate crons with a more than usual burning passion.

 pretre wrote:
Amusing thing that usually takes out planes for me? Exorcists. S8 AP1 just seals the deal.

I thought about trying it, but I was using them to kill off his wraiths. I probably should have shot at the sky, but I was afraid I would roll a one on my d6 roll for shots. Maybe next time, I will try that instead.

 Green is Best! wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Amusing thing that usually takes out planes for me? Exorcists. S8 AP1 just seals the deal.

I thought about trying it, but I was using them to kill off his wraiths. I probably should have shot at the sky, but I was afraid I would roll a one on my d6 roll for shots. Maybe next time, I will try that instead.

Don't get me wrong. It is not reliable. It is just hilarious when it happens. Wraiths were probably a better target. Own the ground.

Wraiths are great targets for anything s8+ due to insta-killing them. Sure, you'll hit their shield a lot of the time... but you only have to hit once to kill one.

Last time I fought Necrons ( I posted a battle report here somewhere) I used my exorcists to shoot wraiths. It was like they were made for it. "Oh, two wounds? That's cute." BOOM!

 MWHistorian wrote:
Last time I fought Necrons ( I posted a battle report here somewhere) I used my exorcists to shoot wraiths. It was like they were made for it. "Oh, two wounds? That's cute." BOOM!

Theese are the kind of posts that keeps me clinging to this thread, never fails to crack me up xD

 Gar'Ang wrote:
Theese are the kind of posts that keeps me clinging to this thread, never fails to crack me up xD

The great thing about this thread is that it is about 100 pages of pretty on topic discussion of sisters spanning a two editions.

Ailaros' Khorne CSM list and how he plays has got me rethinking about applying the same to SoB and blobs. Kyrinov would be a must for Fearless, as would St. Celestine. It does have me thinking.

It is pretty awesome, and for a new SoB player it's a great place to learn

I think there's a lot of goodness that could be extracted from putting Kyrinov in an infantry heavy Guard army, but I think most Guard players don't have the models to do it and don't care to pay the 200pt "Sister Tax" for allying. Similarly I don't think most Sisters players have enough IG models to make it work either.

Yeah this must be my favourite thread on dakka. Until a rumour thread with pictures of a plastic kit anyway

Anyway. 4th game last night. First loss (Boo!). Great game though against the new eldar, lost 5 to 3. The missionwas Crusade on the diagonal set up.

He was running a min troop list at 1500 but he had 2 wraithknights, a wraithlord, some fire dragons in a wave serpent a vider, guardians, aspect warriors the sniper dudes (pathfinders?) all led by a farseer.

His game plan was to hold his objectives and use he vehicles and high T to push me off my objectives. I managed to hold my own but failed inpushing him off his. Mainly due to the fact whenever celestine died one of his wraithknight would assault a bss, win the combat and use its high Ito win the chasedown.

The game ended end of turn 5. If it had gone on and Celestine had comeback again I reckon I could have maybe won.

Again Celestine the Rets and Exorcists carried me through the game, and Wraithknights don't worry me when I've got my Sisters anyway...I do worry about Riptides though I was watching a game after with double Riptides and they were horrid. 2+/3++ with FNP. Gross. How do people deal with these suckers?

D

Riptide, huh? I would like to see what a swarm of Repentia would do to one.

 MWHistorian wrote:
Last time I fought Necrons ( I posted a battle report here somewhere) I used my exorcists to shoot wraiths. It was like they were made for it. "Oh, two wounds? That's cute." BOOM!

My crisis suits want to raise an objection, wraiths might be a good target, but suits are outright hosed.

 MWHistorian wrote:
Riptide, huh? I would like to see what a swarm of Repentia would do to one.

Trouble is how do you get them their? Can't take a squad of more than 10 jf you want a vehicle, even then we don't have access to assault vehicles so you have to weather atleast 1 round of shooting and even then they'll probably have jsj away. Repentia are too fragile to try and chase them down,, it looks like the answers are the usual then Exorcists and Rets.

D

Amerikon wrote:
I think there's a lot of goodness that could be extracted from putting Kyrinov in an infantry heavy Guard army, but I think most Guard players don't have the models to do it and don't care to pay the 200pt "Sister Tax" for allying. Similarly I don't think most Sisters players have enough IG models to make it work either.

No, no, no good sir. You misunderstood me. I meant with using SoB blobs. 20 woman BSS.

To Take away from Ailaros' list, we'd have Kyrinov and St. Celestine as replacements for Huron and the Khorne CSM Lord (Granted hardly "replacements" but you know what I mean). Instead of 20 man Khorne Berserker squads, we'd use 20 woman BSS (made Fearless by the aforementioned Kyrinov and/or St. Celestine). As far as a "substitution" for Obliterators, DSing Seraphim could work (we'd just have to be more risky with our DS to accomplish the same). I can't think of a good way to replicate the Terminators (or Huron's Warlord Trait for that matter) hence why I'm still toying around with the idea. Maybe large squads of Repentia?

Anyway, it is more the idea of replicating Ailaros' battle plan more than anything by going for the draw on the primary missions and winning on secondary with First Blood, etc. that had intrigued me to consider doing the same but with SoB using such "unorthodox" tactics and units (such as 20 woman SoB blobs).

Thoughts?

Amerikon wrote:
I think there's a lot of goodness that could be extracted from putting Kyrinov in an infantry heavy Guard army, but I think most Guard players don't have the models to do it and don't care to pay the 200pt "Sister Tax" for allying. Similarly I don't think most Sisters players have enough IG models to make it work either.

I have a hundred or so guard (maybe 150) and a bunch of vehicles. I love combining guard and sisters.

I lost Horribly...Horribly in my last sisters game against Eldar. He asked if he could use IA eldar units, just 3. I said sure. We set up. I did my shooting trying to kill the wraithknight walking up the middle. next turn he doesnt even move. then shoots me with 3 seperate D large blast weapons. I got jipped. Was told i dont get any armor save, cover save, or invuln save. one hit 2 of my exorcist. they were gone. i lost nearly 1100 out of 1500 points first turn. yeah...got I suckered into that one.

What unit did he use?
You still get Invun saves.
Destroyer weapons are also Apoc Specific, so using them isn't just requesting use of Forgeworld, it'd need specific permission to use Apoc rules.

Basically, he flat out cheated.

Sadly, D weapons ignore all saves now, even invulnerable.

But using Apoc units in a 1500 pts game.. is madness.

You should smack that guy in his face. Just walk up to him and smack him hard.

That is way too obvious. Next time he is around, ask to look at one of those models. While you are holding it, have an accomplice bump into you so you can drop it onto the floor. Then, have another accomplice accidentally drop a safe onto it.

This way you can blame it on pure clumsiness.

Yea, that guy wasn't looking for a game, he just wanted to sucker punch you. Don't play with him if he's going to pull that type of thing.

Just convince him to go 1v1 with whatever it was against one unit of your choice from your dex. Game to contiune until one side cannot play on.

Take celestine.

Watch his face if he's dumb enough to let this happen.

If you know other 40k players in your local gaming community, warn them all about this guy. It will send him clear message once everyone repeatedly turns him down for games.

I've wanted to give Repressors a spin for a while, but I couldn't really get past the fact that the official kit is not so much a Repressor as it is a Rhino with a dozer blade. I've been looking for an acceptable stand in for a while, and gave up about two days ago. And then, this morning, from the Ramshackle Games kickstarter webpage, here is the Rhebok:



http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/445060.page

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/179741323/brothers-of-iron

I love Ramshackle's aesthetic and I just threw down for a thrio of these monsters. Now I need to rewrite my list to upgrade my BSS rhinos to Repressors. Has anyone here gotten any games in with the new Repressor rules? They seem like a good upgrade from Rhinos, on paper, but how does that translate to the game?

That is super hot!

wow, thats perfect.