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At the link they also have multiple smaller pics of upgrade cards as well. The variety in the ships should be a good and widening addition to the meta of the game. I wish we had them for yesterday's attack on the correllian corvette game!
Another reason to buy the Lambda.....the wings fold....
So now it can land like a dainty butterfly....
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That's actually pretty damn awesome for me. I've got limited space in my carrying case and was hoping to stack some of the larger ships together. It would be very difficult with the wings down but a slave 1 looks like it can fit quite nicely inbetween those wings with some foam buffers! Some time after Gencon I'll be adding 2 TIE bombers and B-wings and a Shuttle to my collection.
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It said 3rd quarter on the link posted above to the FFG website. I assume they're referring to the regular year and not the financial calendar. Also, releasing it in limited fashion at gencon would fit their MO from last year and drum up some publicity, with stores getting it in the weeks to come after that (with I assume an extra delay on top of that for the EU).
It does seem a little odd that the TIE Bomber is more agile than the B-Wing or Y-Wing - I don't recall seeing anything in the films that implies that, nor reading anything in the EU material.
Also, B-Wings with the Additional Shield mod should be amusing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
Also TIE Bombers are much tougher (6 HP) than I recall from any game or book.
I suppose both factors come down to game balance - the Bomber holds so much payload that to make it easy to hit and quite fragile would see it go unused, as it would be a priority target due to the upgrades (potentially) purchased for it.
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yeah, arrrg all broken... Edit: Ok I cut and pasted them into groups and uploaded here on dakka. These are not my photos and belong to Hexis on the FFG forum.
Wave 3
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HWK - 290
Panic...
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Bolognesus wrote: Is that whopper of a mold line down the right side of the Lambda supposed to be there? Yowch...
I think it's a pre-production model and stuff like that will be cleaned up in the final miniature.
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Yes, but generally companies tend to clean up their masters before painting, those things tend to look *better* than the final product even will. Oh well, they're sold in transparent packaging anyway so not much to fear
Panic wrote: yeah,
arrrg all broken...
Edit:
Ok I cut and pasted them into groups and uploaded here on dakka.
These are not my photos and belong to Hexis on the FFG forum.
Panic...
Thanks for the re-post and sorry if my post was a bit blunt, it wasn't directed at you!
Hmm, on reflection the Moldy Crow might be their first scale fail - ignoring the fact the model looks too small for a freighter, the Wookiepedia article on it indicates a length of 29 meters, as opposed to the Lambda shuttle's 20 meters or the Falcon's 34.37 meters.
I thought something had been bugging me about that ship...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
Eyeballing it, I think the A-Wing is about right - again, using Wookieepedia as a source, the A-Wing is quoted as 9.5 meters long, while the X-Wing is 12.5m in length.
I don't have the models to hand, but I seem to remember it being 2/3 - 3/4 the length of the X-Wing model.
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
Yeah. Moldy Crow did seem out of scale... but it's a pre-production model. It seems weird to produce 3 small and 1 large in this run. 2 and 2 just has better symmetry (and reflects what we saw in wave 2). That, and the Kyle Katarn card seems rather 'meh' on a fighter sized ship. Maybe the HWK-290 will be a big ship that you can spam.
I"m kinda floored by the mounting of the B-Wing... that elbow is either really cool, or its going to be a major pain.
Tie-Bombers have double the engines, and not quite double the mass of a Tie. It should be able to keep up with the other Empire fighters.
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Moldy Crow being a small craft is a mix-up, but remember they have to get approval on these models still, and someone could come along and point that out.
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Re-posted from the FFG boards, but originally posted on BGG:
"Guys, both the HWK and the A-Wing (and other current X-Wing ships) are made to the most correct and official sizes. All these ships are correctly proportioned to each other. This has been intensively researched at FFG in collaboration with experts at LFL. We have chosen not to go the route of the most popular opinion on sizes, but the most objectively correct ones. I hope you agree this is the right choice.
Wookiepedia, for all it's awesomeness (we love it too), is not the authority on these matters. As with the TIE fighter, there are a lot of subjective opinion on what the size should be (vis-a-vis various references), and like the TIE, the HWK data has been incorrectly stated in many sources. The FFG size of the Mouldy Crow is the correct size per thorough review of the original source material.
Obviously there is much personal preference and debate on sizes, but FFG has sought with LFL to provide the most accurate scale and proportions possible. I can assure you that we take this very seriously, and the sizes of these are not arbitrarily chosen.
We're very excited about wave 3 and the other X-wing models that we're working on. Thanks for your enthusiasm for the game.
I remember it being bigger, but it looks like the figure's accurate:
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There’s a fan-made Cross Section of the HWK (done in the style of the SW Incredible Cross Sections) that is basically that style – a small two-seater with limited cargo capacity. It’s completely fan made, but very well done. It's good they're going that route, heavy fighter rather than small transport freighter.
It fits with the in-game crow, unlike other sources that have the Crow being some immense freighter with a multi-decked cargo hold and other things it couldn’t possibly have.
The only thing smaller is probably the Raven’s Claw, which is just a cockpit and two MASSIVE engines.
Yeah, I almost used the cross section you're talking about, but it's ENORMOUS.
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Hmm - the 29m length figure is sourced from an article published by WotC when they had the license. It was associated with a SWM release, from what I could tell, so I'm pretty sure Lucasfilm Licensing would have had to sign off on the stats before publication...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
@getting minis
They are doing their best to produce as much minis as possible, but every time they roll out a new batch the demand tops even their projections. The game being that popular is a curse at the same time.
Next Wave 1 delivery should be less than 2 months away.
@Hawk
It has the right size. Problem with other products was that they happily mixed scales and stats and sometimes the wrong stats got below the radar.
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