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Well, my vanguard pledge arrived today
only thing I've had time to open was the giant and well......it seems to be missing a leg and the top of the torso.....so now i guess I'll need to scour the rest of the box and fire off some emails, which is a shame since i really like the parts of the model i so far have

Are they sending notification emails when they send out the packages?

Actually, are they doing AU distribution via Aetherworks, or just sending them direct from Notts? (At work atm so can't scour the interwebs for updates, etc)

 Azazelx wrote:
Are they sending notification emails when they send out the packages?

Actually, are they doing AU distribution via Aetherworks, or just sending them direct from Notts? (At work atm so can't scour the interwebs for updates, etc)

i had an email and tracking number for mine...can't say if its the same for your part of the world

Got a notification too.

Then they decided to deliver it when nobody is home and I'm stuck going to the fedex office at some undisclosed point in the evening to pick it up.

Irritating. I want it NOW!

Plus I'm more than likely having to do the same exact thing tomorrow for my Deep Madness pledge.

 Azazelx wrote:
Are they sending notification emails when they send out the packages?

Actually, are they doing AU distribution via Aetherworks, or just sending them direct from Notts? (At work atm so can't scour the interwebs for updates, etc)

I just got a FedEx notification, direct from Mantic, no Aetherworks.

Got my notification today, saying it ships today, arrives tomorrow

Notification today too, but of the "a shipping label was created, package hasn't been handed over to us yet" sort.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Notification today too, but of the "a shipping label was created, package hasn't been handed over to us yet" sort.

I got that, and then another email 35 minutes later saying it had been collected by FedEx and was on the way, expected delivery on the 29th

Just posted by Mantic on facebook

We are very proud to announce that C.L. Werner will be writing a Kings of War novel under our Zmok Books imprint! Stay tuned for more details in the coming weeks...

seems to have had pretty positive reviews for the AoS stuff done for GW

OMG OMg OMG! That's the best Mantic news all year!

Thats neat, Mantica really needs some fleshing out.

dyndraig wrote:
Thats neat, Mantica really needs some fleshing out.

Yeah, and they need to give up that name. Mantica was fine in the beginning, but it really belongs to stories that have all the complexity of a Viz comic.

A rules question. Maybe my brain just can't process this.

For rules like Crushing Strength and Piercing, where they have a number following them, let's say 2 in this case, that's supposed to be subtracted from the target's armor roll.

Right?

Why do the rules give an example of changing a roll of 7 to 5, when the goal is to have them roll the target number or greater? Wouldn't that benefit the target better?

Did I misread the rules about rolling target numbers, or did Mantic get the numbers switched around? Wouldn't I want them to have less chance of making that save?

They've got a lot less chance of rolling something great than 7 than they do rolling a number than 5...

Is this on a six sided die?

Vanguard is on 8 sided dice.

Basically like Deadzone.

It´s only confusing if one is familiar with Kings of War, because these special rules have the exact same effect in Vanguard, but work the other way around.

In KoW crushing strength and piercing are added to the damage roll, making it easier to wound.

Since KoW.Vanguard features armor rolls instead of damage rolls, crushing strength and piercing are subtracted from them, making it harder to save hits.

The 7 for the model in the example would therefore only be a successful armor roll if it had an armor value of no higher than 5.

So it looks like Mantic is experimenting with PVC minis like in a lot of boardgames. The Kill the Bard figure that came with the all in is a harder PVC then what they have in the terrain creates. Also the newer terrain from the KSer is a harder PVC then what they used previously as well.

And yes, since I'm sure someone will make the comment, the bard has some horrible mold lines. Wouldn't be mantic otherwise. But it is pretty detailed.

There was some talk about the half price Vanguard rulebook deal from earlier this month. Anyhoo, I jumped in and partook rather than just take the free rules.

Promotions. They work.

My box arrived today. It sure is full of stuff. I'll have to find some time to go through it all sometime soon.

My 2 Vanguard books arrived yesterday. It looks good but I will have to figure out a way to make it work with round bases.

I could paint markings on the base showing the rear 90, but that sounds like hard work.

 StygianBeach wrote:
My 2 Vanguard books arrived yesterday. It looks good but I will have to figure out a way to make it work with round bases.

I could paint markings on the base showing the rear 90, but that sounds like hard work.

I'm going with round bases as well I plan to just put the minis on the equivalent sized round base and get clear acrylic square bases to put under them for Vanguard games. Attach them with magnets so they can be removed when not playing Vanguard. The only slight issue is 20mm base - 20mm rounds are tiny they might be OK for grunts but not the others might have to mount them on 25mm rounds which actually aren't all that much bigger than 20mm squares and if you put a 20mm squre under a 25mm round you can still clearly see the 4 corners of the base.

Of course I need to actually get my pledge first this is what happens when you order the alt. Frostfangs and Ice Elementals plus living in Ireland = back of shipping queue for most KS as there doesn't tend to be many of us backing

Actually if anyone could come up with some widely accepted round base rules I have a tonne of LotR minis I could use.

Got my notice - Monday, while I'm at work and Megan is in class.

Giant pledge, with a giant addon. (Wishing I had gotten the dwarfs as well.)

Also, unconnected to Kickstarters, my refined and dignified two year old daughter has learned how to make farty noises with her mouth.

The Auld Grump - an important life goal, when you are two.

 TheAuldGrump wrote:

Also, unconnected to Kickstarters, my refined and dignified two year old daughter has learned how to make farty noises with her mouth.

The Auld Grump - an important life goal, when you are two.

important when you are levelling up..

a skill that will last a lifetime.

The giant is pretty nice, really wish I would have gotten 2 more (as I also got the frost giant upgrade) but I do worry that glue won't be enough to hold the large arm with the club any position but down as Mantic as just a basic flush ball/cup joint for the arms so you can place them how you like along the x axis but that one arm (there is an alt) is pretty heavy at the club end. The frost giant kit has a different arm connector so you can't post that one easily.

There are also a lot of parts for it (feet, legs, groin, waste, chest, head, arms, fur coat) so I see mantic releasing a lot of alt kits for it.

 DaveC wrote:

Spoiler:

 StygianBeach wrote:
My 2 Vanguard books arrived yesterday. It looks good but I will have to figure out a way to make it work with round bases.

I could paint markings on the base showing the rear 90, but that sounds like hard work.

I'm going with round bases as well I plan to just put the minis on the equivalent sized round base and get clear acrylic square bases to put under them for Vanguard games. Attach them with magnets so they can be removed when not playing Vanguard. The only slight issue is 20mm base - 20mm rounds are tiny they might be OK for grunts but not the others might have to mount them on 25mm rounds which actually aren't all that much bigger than 20mm squares and if you put a 20mm squre under a 25mm round you can still clearly see the 4 corners of the base.

Of course I need to actually get my pledge first this is what happens when you order the alt. Frostfangs and Ice Elementals plus living in Ireland = back of shipping queue for most KS as there doesn't tend to be many of us backing

That may do the trick.

I base everything Human sized on 30mm rounds so I will not have the 20mm problem, on the other hand I don't think I have ever seen a 30mm clear square base.

 StygianBeach wrote:
My 2 Vanguard books arrived yesterday. It looks good but I will have to figure out a way to make it work with round bases.

I could paint markings on the base showing the rear 90, but that sounds like hard work.

I always thought the standard was "Fantasy on square bases, Everything else on round bases".

But then AoS/GW broke the rules...

 StygianBeach wrote:

 DaveC wrote:

Spoiler:

 StygianBeach wrote:
My 2 Vanguard books arrived yesterday. It looks good but I will have to figure out a way to make it work with round bases.

I could paint markings on the base showing the rear 90, but that sounds like hard work.

I'm going with round bases as well I plan to just put the minis on the equivalent sized round base and get clear acrylic square bases to put under them for Vanguard games. Attach them with magnets so they can be removed when not playing Vanguard. The only slight issue is 20mm base - 20mm rounds are tiny they might be OK for grunts but not the others might have to mount them on 25mm rounds which actually aren't all that much bigger than 20mm squares and if you put a 20mm squre under a 25mm round you can still clearly see the 4 corners of the base.

Of course I need to actually get my pledge first this is what happens when you order the alt. Frostfangs and Ice Elementals plus living in Ireland = back of shipping queue for most KS as there doesn't tend to be many of us backing

That may do the trick.

I base everything Human sized on 30mm rounds so I will not have the 20mm problem, on the other hand I don't think I have ever seen a 30mm clear square base.

https://sarissa-precision.com/collections/square-bases/products/30x30mm-base-pack?variant=12406514221100

They have 2mm and 3mm clear acrylic as an option although it doubles the price.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

 StygianBeach wrote:
My 2 Vanguard books arrived yesterday. It looks good but I will have to figure out a way to make it work with round bases.

I could paint markings on the base showing the rear 90, but that sounds like hard work.

I always thought the standard was "Fantasy on square bases, Everything else on round bases".

But then AoS/GW broke the rules...

I started using rounds during 8th edition WHFB to make smaller Warbands, and I wanted to base my warbands consistently regardless of where the mini came from.

In the end I went with the round base with Rim, sometimes I wish I went with the Renedra Flat Round because the Flat Rounds have (cheap) Oval options but they are harder to magnetise so its a compromise I am willing to accept.

The bigger resin Rim bases are quite expensive though, which is no fun and just as tricky to magnetise as Flat Rounds.