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 Pacific wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
https://twitter.com/manticgames/status/1297584389375832064



It's practically official

Holy crap !

That was a ridiculously random guess.

Can we start having a collection to get this game made?

I was watchign this. He was talking about a load of IPs he'd love to amke games for, but admitte afterwards it was pie in the sky thinking and none of them would ever happen as the market would be too niche.

Uncharted Seas is around 1/600 as will Armada. So Uncharted Seas and Armada ships should look OK next to each other, if the differing art styles don't bother you.

Dreadfleet looks OK too. I have a bunch of Black Seas and Oak and Iron (also same/similar scale) and they look great alongside the Dreadfleet ships. In particular, the undead frigate Shadewraith looks awesome next to the 1/700 Black Seas ships (and 1/600 Oak and Iron)

The Big ships from Dreadfleet will probably look great as the XL ships from Armada

 pancakeonions wrote:
Uncharted Seas is around 1/600 as will Armada. So Uncharted Seas and Armada ships should look OK next to each other, if the differing art styles don't bother you.

Dreadfleet looks OK too. I have a bunch of Black Seas and Oak and Iron (also same/similar scale) and they look great alongside the Dreadfleet ships. In particular, the undead frigate Shadewraith looks awesome next to the 1/700 Black Seas ships (and 1/600 Oak and Iron)

The Big ships from Dreadfleet will probably look great as the XL ships from Armada

Thanks thats great to know

Yes, thanks Pancakeonions. Found a box of Dreadfleet today for a reasonable price on Ebay, to add it to Armada and also to try the game itself.

I've already gone out and bought singles of a few Dreadfleet ships (can't find the Shadewraith anymore!) just for fun...!

Orc fleet focus with Ripper hulk XL ship reveal

https://www.manticgames.com/news/armada-fleet-focus-orcs/

Sorry, I haven't been able to keep up on the podcasts. Is there any idea of the next fleets?
None of the starter ones really appeal to me, but the game itself does.

Any mention of Elves/Twilight Kin/Nightstalkers?

 DaveC wrote:
Orc fleet focus with Ripper hulk XL ship reveal

https://www.manticgames.com/news/armada-fleet-focus-orcs/

I like the Ripper Hulk, Smasher is ok, not keen on Hammerfist.

I think all we know is Humans and Orcs now, with Dwarves and Empire of Dust in Q1 (along with the XL Human and Orc ships).

There was mention of undead and trident realm in one of the podcasts I listened to (counter charge with Matt Gilbert, I think!), but no confirmation that they'd be next (just that they'd be kind of hard to do without falling into tropes they'd prefer to avoid). In one video (maybe the intro video?), I think there was a picture of a Nightstalker, so I bet they'll be in the mix sooner rather than later.

We know that there 4 more factions in play testing now and one of them is Kingdoms of Men

Ogres were mentioned as "maybe Mercenaries but no fleet on their own" and that Monster focused factions (Trident Realm) would be later

Hammerfist looks so much better in the concept art with flails instead of fists. I guess they didn't feel confident casting weight-bearing chains in resin.

Stillnot sure about the Orc ships - would have prefered (still hoping) for a big Orc ship able to fire huge grappling hooks like the World Eaters flagship in the Heresy.

 kodos wrote:
We know that there 4 more factions in play testing now and one of them is Kingdoms of Men

KoM were already tested alongside the first 4 fleets as a Black Seas-style baseline.

 mattjgilbert wrote:

 kodos wrote:
We know that there 4 more factions in play testing now and one of them is Kingdoms of Men

KoM were already tested alongside the first 4 fleets as a Black Seas-style baseline.

Interesting. Any thoughts of how KoM will add fantasy elements to a Black Seas baseline? Because it seems like the Basileans fill that notch.

Or are you just saying that KoM was the control group for testing and we may not see them as a fleet. And what about the League of Rhordia?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Hammerfist looks so much better in the concept art with flails instead of fists. I guess they didn't feel confident casting weight-bearing chains in resin.

Maybe we'll get those as a upgrade kit? 3d printing could also probably make the flails a reality.

Oh! Looks like the Empire of Dust faction focus is up.



Interesting combination of cannons, catapults, and ballistas.

Monolith is beautiful, the others are ok.

Also a hint in the article that the main opponents of the Empire of Dust are the dwarves and the salamanders. Looking forward to seeing their fleet.

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Monolith is beautiful, the others are ok.

Yep I would agree with that.

Once engaged, the prow of the Khopeshii acts like a boarding ramp, allowing the Revenants to fight their way aboard the enemy vessel, slaughtering all in their path.

Not seeing how that boarding plank works

 Mr Morden wrote:
Not seeing how that boarding plank works

Yeah, me too, unless the undead like to have it more difficult than the living, for some reason

Those are pretty nice ships. It does bother me that all detail seems to be placed on top of the hull rather than being a part of it. See the oar ports. They're not sunk into the hull but raised out of it (also they were copy pasted on the ships by someone with Parkinsons). Same with cannon, on Basilean ships too, they never look as something sticking through the wall from inside the ship, they're just nozzles glued to the flat outside.

 Mr Morden wrote:
Not seeing how that boarding plank works

As far as static prows doubling as boarding planks, seems fairly legit thanks to that overhang:



Ram a ship abeam then shove your undead minions up and over the prow, where they plummet straight down to the enemy deck, three-point land, then stand up menacingly, ready to murder the living. Profit.

The Empire of Dust ships have struck me right in the imagination. Excellent.

As Boss Savage shows if your not worried about falling damage its safer to drop onto an enemy deck from above,

that way they enemy cant fight their way onto your ship via your plank like they could it if was a simple flat affair. Of course if things go wrong the undead who have boarded the enemy will be lost if the their ship sails away, but who cares.

Living sailors with opinions and a sense of self preservation would be far less happy with that sort of situation though

Last week's Oglaf webcomic has some good ideas about boarding planks, actually.

 infinite_array wrote:
Or are you just saying that KoM was the control group for testing and we may not see them as a fleet. And what about the League of Rhordia?

Sort of a control group to start with, but they still get their own fleet rules, captains and upgrades. We will do the cards so people can use their Black Seas ships. If there is enough demand we will look at maybe new resin bits for the warlord ships for example.

The LoR is a landlocked nation in the middle of the Ardovikian Plain...

 mattjgilbert wrote:


The LoR is a landlocked nation in the middle of the Ardovikian Plain...

But for how long?

Already preordered a copy to get started with! Mostly though I want Trident Realms, that’d be great and certainly bring a unique element to the whole game.

Also, I would 100% be down for Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors!

 mattjgilbert wrote:

 infinite_array wrote:
Or are you just saying that KoM was the control group for testing and we may not see them as a fleet. And what about the League of Rhordia?

Sort of a control group to start with, but they still get their own fleet rules, captains and upgrades. We will do the cards so people can use their Black Seas ships. If there is enough demand we will look at maybe new resin bits for the warlord ships for example.

The LoR is a landlocked nation in the middle of the Ardovikian Plain...

Makes sense. It'll be interesting to see how well the Basilean ships scale against the Black Seas minis.

And feel free to steal my idea of a halfling mercenary ship that buffs allied ships from their expansive galley or attacks enemy ships with their hot pot catapults!

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Last week's Oglaf webcomic has some good ideas about boarding planks, actually.

You are so right! Totally forgot about that.

In other personal Armada revelations, I'm weirdly most interested in Orcs I think, on account of the toothy ship mostly, and that I know my clubmate who is most likely to want to play the game is also an EOD player, so unless we actually want a ram-filled civil war ...

I know it’s off in the future, but the inclusion of the Trident Realms potentially expands the game’s scope a bit - which is cool. By expanding into Trident Realms we get monsters and monstrous ships. It adds a whole new element to an already cool naval warfare game.

For example, Mantic could release an under the waves and in the skies supplement. It could have sea monster and flying monster rules in it. In addition, it could build on those rules with fleets for Trident Realms and something like Goblin Sky Pirates. That way the supplement adds 2 new armies but is also interesting to all players because it adds things like krakens and dragons.