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Will the Werewolves be sold individually or as packs of 3 or more?

Knowing mantic, and given the RRP mentioned for packs of three, I don't think you'll see individual werewolves up for sale from mantic.

I'll be at the Open Day tomorrow, and I'll be aiming to provide similar coverage to what I managed at the FWD Open Day last month - smartphone pictures while I'm at the event, with proper photos that evening.

Now, we have no idea what will be on display, but is there anything people want me to keep a lens out for?

Pics of that chariot would make be much appreciated by many, I'd guess.
aside from that well, everything, really

Could you ask the mantic crew a few questions, please? (they seem to take their bl**dy time answering email atm )
- Will the Basilean army deal include any command bits? Are command bits going to be included in unit boxes as sold into retail (while apparently not being present in the BOGOF deals)?
- What material are the upgrade bits made out of? I''m talking command packs here, but also for example the basilean MaA crossbows. Metal or restic? Precisely which components will be in those packs? (pics would be nice, but just a simple list of components would get us by).
- I remember mantic stating, in the comments on update #66, that while they couldn't get the PDF's out to us on time they'd try to at least give us a peek at the lists in the books so we can decide what to get and what not. How is this coming? there's only about two weeks to get that survey sent in and I'd like at least a few days to mull over lists etc. I don't think anyone would mind something which looks sloppy, just stamp a big fat "Layout WIP" over the bunch of it; I can't for the life of me imagine the rules aren't finalized yet...
- The ogre named character, grokamarok. Same as the 'regular' hero we get? survey doesn't have it listed with an * so I'd say not but I don't see an option for the 'regular' character either so could go either way?

Personally I'd like a bunch of pics of the abyssal golems and the ogre models as well as the mincer; I'd imagine a bunch of closeups from different angles of as much Basilean stuff as you can photograph would be appreciated by many

 Dysartes wrote:
I'll be at the Open Day tomorrow, and I'll be aiming to provide similar coverage to what I managed at the FWD Open Day last month - smartphone pictures while I'm at the event, with proper photos that evening.

Now, we have no idea what will be on display, but is there anything people want me to keep a lens out for?

Excellent stuff, look forward to seeing your coverage Dysartes!

Thanks Dysartes, your pics are always great.

I'm very eager to paint up some of those large nippled werewolves!

they'll be my unsullied werewolves, cuz i'll be chopping those nips right off.

Just thinking ahead to tomorrow, would a Mantic Open Day thread (not to be confused with a MOD thread) be worth setting up, rather than trying to cross-post content in the various threads going on at the moment?

Just so I know where to look for when I start posting tomorrow...

Arctic Dragon wrote:
Will the Werewolves be sold individually or as packs of 3 or more?

I believe they will be a 3-pack, as many of the other large troop/monstrous infantry models will - trolls, ogres, ogre cannon, abyssal dwarf golems, etc


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 Dysartes wrote:
I'll be at the Open Day tomorrow, and I'll be aiming to provide similar coverage to what I managed at the FWD Open Day last month - smartphone pictures while I'm at the event, with proper photos that evening.

Now, we have no idea what will be on display, but is there anything people want me to keep a lens out for?

Um.. everything that hasn't been shown? And the stuff that's only been shown as bits? Sorry, it's not your responsibility but sadly you may end up being the key source of pics for Mantic's models, as opposed to, you know, Mantic.

I'd say all of these we either haven't seen, or have, but could still stand to have a few extra pictures taken:

Basilean Men-at-Arms
Basilean Paladins
Basilean Paladin Knights (Cavalry)
Basilean Sisterhood Infantry
Basilean Sisterhood Lancers (Cavalry)
Ogre Warriors (great weapons, and command options)
Ogre Shooters
Abyssal Dwarf/Twilight Kin Gargoyles
Abyssal Dwarf Immortal Guard
Abyssal Dwarf Lesser Obsidian Golems
Dwarf Brock Riders
Elf Palace Guard
Elf Stormwind Cavalry
Goblin Fleabag Riders
Goblin Mincer
Orc Chariot/Fight Wagon
Twilight Kin Dark Knights
Undead Mummies.
Undead Werewolves
Berosos, High Priest of Basilea
Herneas the Hunter, Dwarf Ranger Hero
* J'zik Gearlund, Dwarf Healer
Kernow, Warden of the Southern Watch, Dwarf Standard Bearer
* El'Rik Nisleen, Elf Mage Hero
The Green Lady, Elf Hero
Grokagamok, Ogre Mercenary Captain
* Atlak Nakh, Twilight Kin Hero
* Mikayel, Lord of Nightmares, Twilight Kin Hero
Lady Ilona, Undead Vampiress
Lord Malak, Vampire Hero on Winged Hellsteed (new rider sculpt)
* Basilean Angel Hero Jullius
* Basilean Angel Mage Hero Samacris
Basilean Sisterhood Panther Chariot
* Druid Hero - $10
* Air Elemental Hero
Goblin Hero Set - $15 Contains Biggit, Flaggit & Wiz.
Abyssal Dwarf Fire Team

I would post pics but have no idea how to lol! Riquende is going and he normally puts loads of pics as well.

Not sure if this is the place to ask this, but does anyone know if the Orx Sniffers (archer model) is coming with all of this lot?

I can't remember, and I don't want to wait for a reply from mantic until after Open Day, so: did I order my BOGOF minis with the first survey, or should I request them with the second one?

I'd wait, you want to be sure of what you'll be getting. The reply isn't needed until the 29th of May.

At the Open Day, though my mobile internet connection is very poor here. Goblin mincer & two Basilean infantry units on display that I've seen thus far.


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Ronnie posted a video of the start of the Open Day here (for those of us on the other side of the pond or unable to attend):

https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10151946554864762

Would be cool to find out how many points the big game of KOW is. But looks like they are starting of with a bang.

here's a photobucket album of pics from the open day from Robert Smythe Sinclair

http://s152.photobucket.com/user/psmorgul/library/Mantic%20Open%20Day%202013?sort=3&page=1#/user/psmorgul/library/Mantic%20Open%20Day%202013?sort=3&page=1&_suid=136829181556406919008654310135


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the Mummies look amazing, the goblin Mincer looks ridiculously awesome, and the Werewolves look better than I thought

My KoW gallery from today:

http://riquende.wordpress.com/2013/05/11/mantic-open-day-kings-of-war-images/

Theres a seperate Deadzone image post as well.

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the Mummies look amazing, the goblin Mincer looks ridiculously awesome, and the Werewolves look better than I thought

I thought the Mummies were average. But other than that I agree with what you've said here.

The Werewolves look much better now they the arms have been glued on in a somewhat logical position, the gaps filed, and a coat of paint has been applied. I might even get a few to (heavily) modify and use.

Some of the female troops had weirdly long arms. Not sure how that was allowed to get through.

~Eric

Like the Werewolves, Trolls look good from the waist up, the Goblin Mincer looks awesome, the Basilean Paladins on foot look very good (kind of like the old Rackham Griffon Templars), the Sisters look ok, but the arms are far too long. Can be modified easily enough.

Mummies are ok, but I wasn't really going to have a use for them so that's likely to tarnish things. Still need to see the rest of stuff on offer first to make a better decision.

Yeah, pretty hit and miss there. Werewolves look fine, though the decision to paint them hairless is an odd one. I didn't realize there was no texture over most of their bodies, so hopefully they look okay if you paint them as if they have fur everywhere. Otherwise, I think they look odd.

Sisters don't look good at all. They have huge, poorly sculpted hands and long, oddly posed arms. Not happy with those. Though the paladins on foot look really good.

Trolls are still terrible. The mummies also look nothing like the concept art, but I may consider getting some now (to replace my buy one/get one trolls I don't want). They could make good Grave Guard stand in, since they have armor and weapons. And aside from some gigantic hands, they actually look pretty cool.

Abyssal fire thrower looks great too.

Mummies aren't what I expected, but are probably more usable in various systems.

Pretty impressed with everything there aside from the nuns.

Is the barbarian the first model from the nature humans?

Wasn't expecting the Barbarian to be shown off yet...

Isn't that what mantic does for marketing though? "Oops, did we show that?" "Oops, did Ronnie say that?"

 Bolognesus wrote:
Could you ask the mantic crew a few questions, please? (they seem to take their bl**dy time answering email atm )
- Will the Basilean army deal include any command bits? Are command bits going to be included in unit boxes as sold into retail (while apparently not being present in the BOGOF deals)?
- What material are the upgrade bits made out of? I''m talking command packs here, but also for example the basilean MaA crossbows. Metal or restic? Precisely which components will be in those packs? (pics would be nice, but just a simple list of components would get us by).
- I remember mantic stating, in the comments on update #66, that while they couldn't get the PDF's out to us on time they'd try to at least give us a peek at the lists in the books so we can decide what to get and what not. How is this coming? there's only about two weeks to get that survey sent in and I'd like at least a few days to mull over lists etc. I don't think anyone would mind something which looks sloppy, just stamp a big fat "Layout WIP" over the bunch of it; I can't for the life of me imagine the rules aren't finalized yet...
- The ogre named character, grokamarok. Same as the 'regular' hero we get? survey doesn't have it listed with an * so I'd say not but I don't see an option for the 'regular' character either so could go either way?

Managed to corner Stewart Gibbs and get answers to these, after prodding Ronnie about Q4 during the seminar. Not sure how happy you'll be with the answers.

1a, No. 1b, Apologies, I missed that question.
2, Upgrade kits are metal.
3, Both Stewart and Ronnie were prodded to make sure we get to see everything before the end of the survey - apparently there is quite a bit awaiting Golem to finish painting at the minute. We may get a Word doc version of the Basilean list to look at to judge your pledge.
4, The named Ogre is the one that the KS backers get as a "regular" hero. According to Stewart, the KS backers get a resin version, while the general release version will be restic.

I painted the werewolves and mummies.

The werewolves I thought looked better with flesh for the most part - you could quite easily paint them a dark colour (grey or black) but I wanted to both show off the musculature (which is really nicely sculpted) and have a higher contrast paintjob - the furry manes would easily blend in to a darker base colour, and without texture on the bulk of the skin I didn't think it'd look as good.

 Bolognesus wrote:
Isn't that what mantic does for marketing though? "Oops, did we show that?" "Oops, did Ronnie say that?"

True, but I figured it was still too early for even that. Since to see it sculpted too.

It's the project I've wanted Mantic to do for some time. I even offered to write/design it for them a few years back.

Hey, I have the undead war elephants and the skeletal giant and dragon they used in the big KoW battle! Any idea what rules they used to represent them?

 Dysartes wrote:

 Bolognesus wrote:
Could you ask the mantic crew a few questions, please? (they seem to take their bl**dy time answering email atm )
- Will the Basilean army deal include any command bits? Are command bits going to be included in unit boxes as sold into retail (while apparently not being present in the BOGOF deals)?
- What material are the upgrade bits made out of? I''m talking command packs here, but also for example the basilean MaA crossbows. Metal or restic? Precisely which components will be in those packs? (pics would be nice, but just a simple list of components would get us by).
- I remember mantic stating, in the comments on update #66, that while they couldn't get the PDF's out to us on time they'd try to at least give us a peek at the lists in the books so we can decide what to get and what not. How is this coming? there's only about two weeks to get that survey sent in and I'd like at least a few days to mull over lists etc. I don't think anyone would mind something which looks sloppy, just stamp a big fat "Layout WIP" over the bunch of it; I can't for the life of me imagine the rules aren't finalized yet...
- The ogre named character, grokamarok. Same as the 'regular' hero we get? survey doesn't have it listed with an * so I'd say not but I don't see an option for the 'regular' character either so could go either way?

Managed to corner Stewart Gibbs and get answers to these, after prodding Ronnie about Q4 during the seminar. Not sure how happy you'll be with the answers.

1a, No. 1b, Apologies, I missed that question.
2, Upgrade kits are metal.
3, Both Stewart and Ronnie were prodded to make sure we get to see everything before the end of the survey - apparently there is quite a bit awaiting Golem to finish painting at the minute. We may get a Word doc version of the Basilean list to look at to judge your pledge.
4, The named Ogre is the one that the KS backers get as a "regular" hero. According to Stewart, the KS backers get a resin version, while the general release version will be restic.

Okay, thanks. I'll refrain from shooting the messenger
1a. Meh. Kinda missing the ball there, mantic... 1b Hmm shame, that was actually the one most likely to induce significant amounts of rage...
2. okay, figures. thanks. ...The Ogre bits too? that's going to see a lot of weighed-down bases for that musician. Oh well.
3. MAY see? Dang, that's disappointing - and rather sloppy on their part.
4. fair 'nuff. Won't say I like it but it's not too bad