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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/20 14:35:40
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Fixture of Dakka
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1,3,6 mostly still in. Hero types include captain with chariot option, warlock (which can bring along a new unit, Beserker Braves), army standard. Warlocks are a bit expensive but come with zap(2) and breath attack(10), they inspire beserker braves have elite and vicious if within 6" of a troop or regiment of beserker braves. You can take flea-bag riders as Red Goblin Scouts. Ogre chariots are in and of course normal ogres and shooters. Quirky little unit called the Red Goblin Blaster which can sacrifice itself to do a d6" blast and damage friend or foe with 2d6 hits with piercing(4). If it charges an enemy it does 2d6 hits with crushing strength(4) in the following melee (from the explosion) so two choices, charge and explode just damaging one unit or potentially run it between several enemy units and blow it, hopefully rolling well on the d6.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/20 14:56:14
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Krazed Killa Kan
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What are the Berserker Braves? Ogre equivalent to Dwarf Slayers from WHFB? I assume Ogres as opposed to Goblins?
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2+2=5 for sufficiently large values of 2.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/20 14:59:38
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Zealous Knight
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Both "berserker" and especially "brave" do rather exclude "goblin", don't they?  But yes, they're Ogres.
Basically two hand weapons, insane smashers. There was talk on the mantic boards of just using WHFB Black Orc arms for the hand weapons (scale works OK, and the lack of armour fits rather nicely!).
They do have a bit of a dwarf slayer ish vibe, yes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/20 16:55:30
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Noise Marine Terminator with Sonic Blaster
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Characters are captain, warlock and battle standard.
I think the blunderbuss' have been improved slightly compared to the KoM list.
Not all the units get the option to take a single eg chariots.
They get hw & shield, great weapons, large crossbows or blunderbuss for the infantry. Chariots (also mounts for characters).
There's also goblin mawbeast riders, cart full of explosives and with bows.
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Ex-Mantic Rules Committees: Kings of War, Warpath
"The Emperor is obviously not a dictator, he's a couch."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/23 17:09:09
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Pious Warrior Priest
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New pics of the Basileans, along with the preorders are now up on the mantic site. Some of the minis have been repainted to be less blue.
This one hasn't, mind, but is still a very nice sculpt:
And, the army box:
..which includes metal command for all models.
Have to say, it's a little bit annoying that the KS models don't come with the metal command bitz (you have to pay $5 extra for them), but the retail release does have them. Not much of a big deal, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/23 17:10:06
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Tiny pic is tiny  . Is there a bigger one somewhere? It takes work to make something That small
Edit: Ninja'ed by bigger pic edit
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/23 17:10:44
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Ok, now that's freaking amazing!!!
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/23 17:13:20
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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[DCM]
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And at least this one looks to be proportioned OK too!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/23 17:50:36
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Noise Marine Terminator with Sonic Blaster
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What's that meant to be? A Phoenix?
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Ex-Mantic Rules Committees: Kings of War, Warpath
"The Emperor is obviously not a dictator, he's a couch."
Starbuck: "Why can't we use the starboard launch bays?"
Engineer: "Because it's a gift shop!" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/23 22:15:19
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Special elohi character, I'd imagine. There's supposed to be a female one. Best guess.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/23 22:21:14
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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You have a bracket backwards in the first image tag of the army box pic, SS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/23 22:23:02
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Mutating Changebringer
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scarletsquig wrote:New pics of the Basileans, along with the preorders are now up on the mantic site. Some of the minis have been repainted to be less blue.
This one hasn't, mind, but is still a very nice sculpt:
And, the army box:
[img[]http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Kings-of-War/Basilea/Product/Basilean-Army-Set-48-Figures.html[/img]
..which includes metal command for all models.
Have to say, it's a little bit annoying that the KS models don't come with the metal command bitz (you have to pay $5 extra for them), but the retail release does have them. Not much of a big deal, though.
Are those wings painted or made of some sort of clear plastic?
Also, either way, a very fine model, and quite a step up from many of the other recent human sculpts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/23 22:29:57
Subject: Re:[Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Houston, TX
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Those wings look like a photoshopped background or some kind of cut out. They dont have any sense of depth, unlike the mini. Does anyone have an unpainted image?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/23 22:38:30
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/23 22:44:30
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Powerful Orc Big'Un
Somewhere in the steamy jungles of the south...
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Dang, that's a nice model. It's almost up to GW quality in the crispness of the detail. If Mantic could keep up this level of quality consistently I could conceivably switch to Kings of War...The key word is consistency, which Mantic struggles with.
~Tim?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 00:02:44
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Does anybody remember what comes in the Basileans box set? 40 MaAs, 20 girls, 10 knights, 10 lancers, 20 paladins and a chariot? Is that correct? I'm trying to decide what else to add on the survey.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 00:16:55
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Isn't the survey closed now?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 00:19:38
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Zealous Knight
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3rd survey for the august shipment
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 00:22:02
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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When does it end? Automatically Appended Next Post: Man, I can't keep track of all of Mantic's surveys any more.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 00:22:45
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Survey ends the 28th, I believe. For the August shipment.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 00:25:41
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Zealous Knight
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BobtheInquisitor wrote:Automatically Appended Next Post:
Man, I can't keep track of all of Mantic's surveys any more.
Join the club. Feth, I even get the ones I have to actually turn in confused
Kinda hope my recent shipment hits this week, I'd love to get a closer look at some things before pledging for extras... (sure, golems are fine and the chariots for ogre conversions aren't an iffy item either, but still...)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 02:48:10
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Serious Squig Herder
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It's a shame - some of the Basiliean character sculpts are super nice and give you a preview into what could have been.
Had the units turned out as good there'd be tons of Basileans springing up all over.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 03:36:30
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Also, since we discussed head swaps for Elohi earlier...chaos marauder heads are the right size too. I took a couple of the clean shaven heads with helmets, cut off the horns, and they look like pissed off angels with helmets. Lol
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 04:20:18
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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timetowaste85 wrote:Also, since we discussed head swaps for Elohi earlier...chaos marauder heads are the right size too. I took a couple of the clean shaven heads with helmets, cut off the horns, and they look like pissed off angels with helmets. Lol
How did you manage to avoid the temptation to use the bearded "Brian Blessed" head?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 04:45:19
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Zealous Knight
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...any sane person with an interest in mantic KSes now hates brian blessed with a passion. You do know that, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 05:10:26
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Only if that sane person was insane enough to read the KS comments, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 05:44:19
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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I did not read the comments and have no idea who this false Brian is (my name is Brian too). I had no problem avoiding bearded angels. Lol
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 06:04:03
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Pious Warrior Priest
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There's this guy as well, the Angel heroes turned out quite well:
Another good sculpt although I think the wings would look better painted entirely metal there.
Both of them are 3d sculpts, by the way. These were the minis made for the $6000 backers, who were very picky about sculpt quality and asked for the sculpts to be tweaked multiple times. It's amazing how asking the opinion of even just 2 mantic fans on a sculpt before sending it off for tooling can result in some much nicer looking minis.
I'll have a project log up for my own basileans next month, they will be painted much better. (see my avatar for the colour scheme :p)
I think reds, purples, oranges, beige etc. are far better colours than the really cold blue and white that mantic have gone with.
The background is that they're a solar cult who worship light and "the shining ones" who live above the clouds atop a nearby mountain. And the motifs and minis feature flame and fire a lot.
I think a dark scheme of black and orange could work really great on them as well.
Still looking for a good source of replacement heads for the men at arms, might have to give up and get some perrys (which will be useful anyway, for the crossbow arms, standard/musician arms and possibly some replacement arms for the sisters).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 09:50:51
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Yeah, I avoided the KS comments and still think Brian Blessed is made of awesome. Automatically Appended Next Post: Hm.. you've kind of given me an idea for a "counts as" Basilean army incorporating something I've been meaning to get around to doing for years. Maybe once I read the rules...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 12:03:43
Subject: [Kings of War][Dwarf Kings Hold] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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The wings on the second one still suck. It would have been easy to pull up a photograph of a bird's wing on google to realise that the feathers fan out from the "arm" bones at the front/top.
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