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Looks like a name revision has been unofficially announced by Jake Thornton (the designer)

http://quirkworthy.com/2014/07/13/dkh-mini-update/

"Dungeon Sagas: Dwarf Kings Quest"

I will speculate that this means expansions are planed (yay!) and a possible move away from the Dwarf King's Hold rules.

Additionally, hard plastic dungeon builder terrain is being looked at as something to fund during the Kickstarter.

If it takes the same format as DKH games so far, this will mean 25mm or 1" square dungeon terrain tiles on sprues to assemble in any way you like.

It may not be in the core game box rather than card tiles, to keep the price point low, but it will definitely be something that Kickstarter backers get if it funds, and then sold as a deluxe upgrade set at retail.

I've had busy month or two and haven't been following Mantic's blogs or newsletters. Is there a prospective date for the launch of this? I know they have the pre-launch hypemobile rolling with some sort of rune thing.

 Riquende wrote:
I've had busy month or two and haven't been following Mantic's blogs or newsletters. Is there a prospective date for the launch of this? I know they have the pre-launch hypemobile rolling with some sort of rune thing.

I believe its August 4th.

 scarletsquig wrote:
Additionally, hard plastic dungeon builder terrain is being looked at as something to fund during the Kickstarter.

If it takes the same format as DKH games so far, this will mean 25mm or 1" square dungeon terrain tiles on sprues to assemble in any way you like.

It may not be in the core game box rather than card tiles, to keep the price point low, but it will definitely be something that Kickstarter backers get if it funds, and then sold as a deluxe upgrade set at retail.

Someone mentioned this on the Mantic DKH forums. Said it was in an interview with Ronnie recently. Where can I see this interview?


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 tgmoore wrote:

 scarletsquig wrote:
Additionally, hard plastic dungeon builder terrain is being looked at as something to fund during the Kickstarter.

If it takes the same format as DKH games so far, this will mean 25mm or 1" square dungeon terrain tiles on sprues to assemble in any way you like.

It may not be in the core game box rather than card tiles, to keep the price point low, but it will definitely be something that Kickstarter backers get if it funds, and then sold as a deluxe upgrade set at retail.

Someone mentioned this on the Mantic DKH forums. Said it was in an interview with Ronnie recently. Where can I see this interview?

I had only heard August 2014. Where did you get the 4th from? The sooner the better!

Upon closer inspection (I looked at the e-mail they sent out) I totally made the 4th part up. My fault. Its just sometime in August.

So plastic dungeon builder terrain is going to be considered after all?

I thought this was supposed to be a one and done, nice self contained game. Not that I'd have a problem with

Are we talking dungeon tiles, or Heroquest style decorative bits to litter the dungeon? Traps, bookcases, doors, tables, that kind of stuff?

Table dressings are pretty universal and if they end up spruing up some of that, I can see it selling pretty well outside of this game.

Heck, I'm watching my daughter play with some Disney princesses and Bones figures with a bunch of Sylvania Family accessories, and even she's complaining to me that we need more tables and props that match the figures' scale.
Funny enough, was emphatically told "NO" when asked if she wanted any metal/ resin accessories, but she happily accepted some painted Deadzone pieces to further furnish her barbarian village.

Mantic battlezones- endorsed by five year old girls everywhere!

I hope that if they do plastic dungeon terrain, it's a bunch of differently shaped rooms (double sided with different designs on the back) like in Warhammer quest, to make all sorts of different dungeons.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:

Are we talking dungeon tiles, or Heroquest style decorative bits to litter the dungeon? Traps, bookcases, doors, tables, that kind of stuff?

There's a youtube interview with Ronnie from the weekend where it's mentioned that one of the mid range stretch goals is going to be to have those decoratives made in hard plastic, with backers definitely getting them, and the retail box probably getting them but not definite yet.

Plastic tiles is a new thing to me though.

Video is linked in the scifi thread

I like the idea of plastic dungeon tiles & walls, but I would think you'd need too many sprues to make a full dungeon .. like it wouldn't be practical to have enough of them in the main box.

Plastic tiles were nixed as an idea back at Open Day 2014 according to folks that sat in Q&A sessions with Ronnie.

http://forum.manticblog.com/showthread.php?8233-DKH-News-and-Rumors-from-Open-Day-2014

"The new DKH will be based on cardboard tiles but with plastic scenery such as tables, chairs and chests etc."

*high quality card dungeon tiles! stretch goal will be double sided print, in one seminar people really wanted strong themes such as Egyptian temple style! classic style etc and Ronnie seemed to really like that . They looked at hard plastic but too expensive and wouldn't wear well. "

^ This is new info from this weekend that replaces that.

Video is over in the sci-fi rumours thread, or just look at my recent posts.

 scarletsquig wrote:
^ This is new info from this weekend that replaces that.

Video is over in the sci-fi rumours thread, or just look at my recent posts.

Thank you. Where was this interview? I assume a convention? Ronnie looks very tired.

I have to say that I'm disappointed that it appears they're moving away from a simple product at a reasonable price and going stretch goal mad again with things like plastic tiles. Unless they're also doing walls (and that would drive the price way up) I don't see the point - I'd rather go with something like Battle Systems upcoming fantasy dungeon terrain (which Mantic could be partnering with instead).

I watched the video last night.

"Plastic terrain" is what was mentioned specifically. Whether that means tiles, walls, scenic stuff... I have no idea, and neither Ronnie nor the interviewer clarify what they mean by that.

It was mentioned that any plastic terrain that gets funded would probably end up in the base game, so I'm going to hope they're talking scenery. That seems far more practical than plastic tiles.

Hopefully any plastic tiles that get made will be part of whatever the fantasy Deadzone skirmish game ends up being.

As someone who sat in on the Open Day Seminars I am pretty certain the plastic terrain will be accessories for the dungeon, as I posted before, Ronnie slapped down the plastic tiles idea pretty hard and the focus was clearly on making this product an open and play title. Plastic dungeon tiles would not be unless prepainted. However given some people have used deadzone tiles to make space hulk terrain then we could see some kind of castle sprue for kings of war that also has that kind of use, ideal with GW launching fantasy 9th next year and stuff like brimstone, hero quest etc coming. 99.9% plastic tiles will not be in the box itself.

Plastic terrain accessories for dungeons would be very welcome.

I'd be more than happy with some of these:

Definitely!

Have got a load of those ordered for the Heroquest Kickstarter, but might end up going for these as a back-up in the event that the other KS doesn't make it.

Guess it's the kind of thing you could probably sell on pretty easily if you did end up with duplicates..

Yep if that stuff was doable back then, then these days should be easy. Lot to be said for being playable without much assembly/paint and I can easily see Mantic doing what GW did and putting Warpath / KOW adverts in the box with this to lead people in like GW and space crusade and hero quest.

Going by what they've done with the Mars Attacks! scenery, I can't help but get excited.



I'm assuming most of the smaller pieces in the foreground are what's to be included, that's quite a bit of variety (and 5 bucks too if I remember correctly, unless the base game comes with more).

The first photos of tiles for "Dungeon Sagas: Dwarf King's Quest" are up: http://www.beastsofwar.com/dungeon-sagas/exclusive-dwarf-kings-quest-dungeon-tiles/

Looking good. Another KS I may fail to resist

I have trust issues with Mantic.

I might be able to resist this one...

...maybe.

Additionally, hard plastic dungeon builder terrain is being looked at as something to fund during the Kickstarter.

If it takes the same format as DKH games so far, this will mean 25mm or 1" square dungeon terrain tiles on sprues to assemble in any way you like.

It may not be in the core game box rather than card tiles, to keep the price point low, but it will definitely be something that Kickstarter backers get if it funds, and then sold as a deluxe upgrade set at retail.

This isn't true I'm afraid! It was discussed at the pathfinder day.

What element of it isn't true Black Nexus?

Some pics of the boards, taken from BoW. Think they look rather nice!

Not sure if this has been posted as I only have a passing interest in this (so far) I went back a few pages but Remy has blog post of the hero sculpts lots of pictures

http://remytremblay.sculpture.over-blog.com/article-dkh-heroes-123979686.html

And they look really good...

I'll give you that the sculpts look real good and this is just in time because DnD 5th ed. is coming out soon and well, that's another way of using those minis.

I'm still skeptical though so I wouldn't be backing this one. The Basileans look good during the WIP stage but... yeah. I'm still in the favor of buying them once they are in stores... provided that they deliver in terms of quality.

Those sculpts are looking nice.

Did Remy do the ninja we saw from the Open Day? I'm still trying to figure out how a ninja fits into a traditional fantasy game.

With the talk of the East in Mantic's teasing, makes me wonder if we'll see mroe Eastern influenced items as the game progresses, or as part of further campaign play.

What would be really cool is if this starts around the time Mars Attacks! gets into people's hands. With the recent comments about the plastic quality, if the Martians (and the rest of the game components) turn out as good as people say they are, that could really swing this game in a good direction, hopefully drawing back some of those who were disappointed on Mantic's previous efforts.