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 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
There's a shot in there of all sorts of random Nature beasts- looks like an old WotC shambling mound, wolves, an owlbear, an angry bear... where did all these come from? Are any of those actual Mantic figures?

I think that book has the first painted Naiads and Salamanders too. Didn't see any greater earth elementals though.

Will dig through the rules further when I'm not stuck on the phone.

Those nature beasts are probably mine from my elf army. The models are mostly from Otherworld and I used them for my Forest Shamblers (because at that point Mantic hadn't made any themselves).

I noticed those, too! Nice to have that answered so quickly

Overall looks stellar, I could see this being a really big seller for FLGS trying to give folks a better fantasy ruleset (and it could even be alongside AoS, since basing doesn't matter for AoS ). Well done, Mantic!

A date of July 27th to start shipping the rulebooks is awesome, too. Is there a chance we could pick it up at GenCon if we preordered it? Edit: Ah, they probably mean to start shipping Kickstarter rewards, but not the book - it seems like it would be impossible for it to be printed that quickly, right?

They sent it all to the printers a week or so ago with the expectation to get it shipped out this month (so they can continue the claim of shipping on time). Even though they will start shipping then and probably take weeks/months to complete.

Got my PDF, eager to get a few games in.

Mantic just need to get the not Warhammer lists out in the world now to fully capitalise on the demise of the old world.

Also glad the issue with the bard has been sorted, I have plans to use him in dungeon saga.

The rulebook looks fantastic. Kudos to everyone at Mantic.

 Tamereth wrote:
Got my PDF, eager to get a few games in.

Mantic just need to get the not Warhammer lists out in the world now to fully capitalise on the demise of the old world.

Also glad the issue with the bard has been sorted, I have plans to use him in dungeon saga.

The rulebook is full of hooks for all the not-GW armies in the fluff, so that the book doesn't feel like a disconnected afterthought.

They also managed to work in fluff for the Northern Alliance and Ophidia, so that's all bedded in ready for the eventual expansion with those new armies too.

Good to see the Dwarves ending up with Elementals for their army. A very cool thing indeed. And the rulebook itself is really well put together, and will look great when printed out I am sure.

Good work rules team and Mantic, you did well

The book is really beautiful.

I played my second game tonight, was great fun and really smooth.

Hmmm, I think I will purchase the book. Which kinda shows that leaving us with just teaser lists was probably, in reality, a clever move.

Got the free rules for a $1 pledge !

Now, in the way that I intend to buy the Witcher 3 DLC when it comes along (after that company offered other bits and pieces for free also), I intend to support Mantic.

Very nice looking rulebook.

Kinda funny that I don't get a .pdf copy of the rules as a late backer who spent over $1200, but a $1 KS pledge gets them

Oh well, soon have the physical copy...

Id just ask Rich, cant hurt.

 Tyr13 wrote:
Id just ask Rich, cant hurt.

Shot him an email, we'll see!

I will buy the rulebook once it's out. Sadly I didn't have any money when the kickstarter was live. I hope they put the new rulebook with their army deals and replace the old one!

 Pacific wrote:
Got the free rules for a $1 pledge !

Now, in the way that I intend to buy the Witcher 3 DLC when it comes along (after that company offered other bits and pieces for free also), I intend to support Mantic.

Very nice looking rulebook.

Glad you like it, good example of how even a $1 pledge on Kickstarter can often get you some good value for money. The actual pdf will probably sell for $10-$15 or so.

So does every backer with a $1 pledge get the PDF or is it just that some have got it in error?

I just got an email direct from Rich @ Mantic with the code and instructions for the rules pdf. Since I already redeemed mine via the KS messaging system, I assume this was a mass mail out to catch all the late backers as well.

Taaloc wrote:
So does every backer with a $1 pledge get the PDF or is it just that some have got it in error?

Well I backed for a $1 then got an abyssal army deal in the pm and I got the pdf last night.

It's a nicely laid out book that should serve them very well for the next few years. When Mantic get it right they do some cracking stuff.

 RiTides wrote:
The rulebook is beautiful and I am really glad that I purchased the physical book - will be totally worth it! Now that this is released to backers, folks can at least definitely clear up any questions newcomers had, so that is also great

Just wondering is there much fluff/background material in the book or is it just 100% rules?

Lots of background material in the book, including plenty of new stuff.

The background starts on page 6, the rules start on page 46

Plus there's approx a page of spiel before each army list as well.

scarletsquig wrote:Lots of background material in the book, including plenty of new stuff.

Baragash wrote:The background starts on page 6, the rules start on page 46

Plus there's approx a page of spiel before each army list as well.

Cheers guys Nice to read that. Will try to pick up a copy of this and give it a read so

Taaloc wrote:
So does every backer with a $1 pledge get the PDF or is it just that some have got it in error?

I only pledged one dollar and I got the PDF. Pretty sure everyone that pledged anything gets it.

Got my link this morning! Rich does a great job, no doubt about it.

 RiTides wrote:
Makes sense and I think we're all on the same page, hopefully Mantic gets on it! It also makes sense that the army lists weren't fully posted until after the retail release for V1, which is why I'm hoping they'll consider going for a compromise position of releasing abbreviated entries with point values and no stats, so people at least know those units exist!

Just saw another new "Why was X unit removed" thread in the Mantic section here, so that's still clearly a problem.

Absolutely. I looked at the Orc army list, thought "Is that it? How the hell do I convert my army to that?"

I then immediately went here to find out what was going on - how many of Mantic's potential customers won't?

I saw someone post in the Mantic section here that they had passed similar feedback on (that the downloads page at least needs to make it clear that the units shown aren't all there is for each army!). Hopefully it gets to the right ears

I'm so happy for the rulebook, and mikhaila even posted that he may is bringing in the rulebooks when they release in August and may be supporting some KoW play. Exciting that there will be a mass fantasy battle system that I could actually get a game with going forward!

Aaahhh.. so.. if I piggybacked on the kickstarter with another person.. I would NOT be getting the PDF correct?

I don't know if it is ethical to ask the guy I worked with for a copy of the PDF..

Do you all think I should ask the kind folks across the pond?

I think it's ethical in this case.. you paid money to get in on the KS even if it was someone else's username and pledge.. so paying money for the KS = free PDF

The download says it's watermarked but I have been unable to find the watermark anywhere on the document - that's not to say it's not there somewhere. Previous downloads had your name on every page so it could be traced. You could ask the backer to send it on to you if you spent the money through them I don't see the issue

Thanks to Alex C, I was able to Email Rich, and he did say that I am kinda outta luck. Only original backers and watermarked for tracking naughty people.

So.. I wait.