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Warbases already makes nicely affordable dials.

http://war-bases.co.uk/ACCESSORIES/GAMING-AIDS?product_id=159

Mount a dead guy on the center.

 judgedoug wrote:
Warbases already makes nicely affordable dials.

http://war-bases.co.uk/ACCESSORIES/GAMING-AIDS?product_id=159

Mount a dead guy on the center.

I have a few of those. Haven't built or painted them yet but plan to do the same thing.

The Warbase ones are nice, but very big, and only go up to ten, so sometimes you'd need more than one.

Very cluttery, then ...

Hm, I thought they go up to 12?

Still, very thematic, and useful especially for mantic Dwarf and Elf armies, who have casualty figures on the sprues.

 judgedoug wrote:
Hm, I thought they go up to 12?

Could well be. Information about them is fairly scarce on the website.
Either way, the point still stands - if you have hordes only routing on 23 and such, you will need more than one dial. And in that case, I just find them too big.

Do we have any info or previews on Mantic's version of Lizardmen? I've tried a few searches but not having much success.

mightyspacepope wrote:
Do we have any info or previews on Mantic's version of Lizardmen? I've tried a few searches but not having much success.

The only lizard men they are doing are Salamanders, which are a unit for both Forces of Nature and Abyssals, pictures of them should be easy enough to find now.

The Lizardman army list is a different thing, that's going to be beta tested shortly, alongside the human+hobbits, beastment and tomb kings ones already out for testing, but Mantic won't be making any more minis for them.

 NTRabbit wrote:

mightyspacepope wrote:
Do we have any info or previews on Mantic's version of Lizardmen? I've tried a few searches but not having much success.

The only lizard men they are doing are Salamanders, which are a unit for both Forces of Nature and Abyssals, pictures of them should be easy enough to find now.

Wait... Are salamanders in the abyssal army too?

Info on lizardmen: The fluff was rejected, so theyre trying again.

As to salamanders in Abyssal armies, they were planed to be included, but it was decided not to do it. Since FoN are neutral, they can be allied anyway, so there wouldnt be much of a point in including them. Or thats what they said anyway.

Salamanders are no longer a unit for Abyssals as well. You could probably still proxy them if you want, though, using the stats for some other unit in the list.

 ulgurstasta wrote:

 NTRabbit wrote:

mightyspacepope wrote:
Do we have any info or previews on Mantic's version of Lizardmen? I've tried a few searches but not having much success.

The only lizard men they are doing are Salamanders, which are a unit for both Forces of Nature and Abyssals, pictures of them should be easy enough to find now.

Wait... Are salamanders in the abyssal army too?

They were going to be but were dropped from the list post ks

 Tyr13 wrote:
Info on lizardmen: The fluff was rejected, so theyre trying again.

Is the fluff so prioritized in the WHFB refugee lists? I though they where supposed to be essentially non-canon?

They were going to be but were dropped from the list post ks

Strange, that must have passed me by completely.

Still likely better not to be stuck with baggage they don't feel comfortable being stuck with though, right?

So the free online not-WHFB lists had fluff with them?

Woops, my bad, haven't read the Abyssal army list yet

Apparently? I think this was the first time they'd be released like this - KoW1 just had a forumpost collecting a few bare no-fluff fanmade pdfs IIRC.

Yeah, the idea behind the "counts-as" lists is that these represent minor powers of Mantica that will never have dedicated minis lines. So they are meant to still fit into the overall fluff of the world, just in a small way.

Actually, they might have lines some time in the future. Not within the next couple of years though.

Are there still plans for not-Skaven? I would be interested in that, because Island of Blood Elves Elves and Skaven would be 2 awesomely cheap+pretty armies to get into KoW.

...Also I can get nice looking 15mm skaven for my home project.

I think there's room for making hobbit... I mean halfling lines.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Are there still plans for not-Skaven? I would be interested in that, because Island of Blood Elves Elves and Skaven would be 2 awesomely cheap+pretty armies to get into KoW.

...Also I can get nice looking 15mm skaven for my home project.

Yes they are called ratkin last I recalled they might have a beta list up somewhere

Ratkin are being publicly playtested on the Mantic forums.

Actually after some searching last night on the Mantic forums I found the test list for them in the beta Excel program, thanks.

 judgedoug wrote:
I heartily recommend not using dice for wound markers.

I lost one of my sets of splat markers from the first KS, but regardless. A gakload of D10s have always worked just fine for us. We use the Mantic Dice from the first KS for disrupted counters.


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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
So the free online not-WHFB lists had fluff with them?

They're in playtest, fluff-less form on the KoW forums right now. The ones on the website are the official races cut-down lists and also fluff-less, though there's obviously a lot of racial crossover with WHFB there as well.

Does anyone have the full list of factions being worked on for this purpose? Several friends have asked but I missed ratmen, so think I might be giving an incomplete picture of what's coming.

If I remember the spreadsheet, it's mainly Skaven, Beastmen, and Empire/Halflings (rather than generic humans) right now. Chaos and Lizardmen in the theory stages?

Dice work just fine for me. I use the dinky little DBX dice, they're too small to be satisfying to roll, so no loss there, and they're in nice, bright colors and easy to see.

Also, I thought I was losing my mind trying to find a 4 on one of the DBX dice when marking damage... and finally realized the damn thing has two 5s. So check all your DBX dice!

 RiTides wrote:
Does anyone have the full list of factions being worked on for this purpose? Several friends have asked but I missed ratmen, so think I might be giving an incomplete picture of what's coming.

Ratkin
League of Rhordia (Empire/Halflings)
The Brotherhood (Brettonian-themed)
Shattered Clans (evil god worshipping barbarians)
The Herd (Beastmen/Narnia)
Empire of Dust (desert-themed Undead)
Reptilians
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Wild speculation! So, with two slots still unknown...what's actually still missing from the WHFB lineup? GW Daemons? Abyssals don't cover everything, especially Nurgle, very well. But Daemons are the most IP-specific GW faction, so I'm not sure you can port them over properly without being more blatantly obvious than Mantic cares to be. In any case, that still leaves another slot free, unless they do two Daemon lists.

I like Ratmen as an idea for miniatures, but god GW's move from relatively cool looking little dudes to some kind of quasi rat-monkey hybrid (especially in the way their faces look) turned me off.

Currently I am looking to see if I can learn 3d sculpting and then I might make some BeastGoatmen instead. Have a look not too far off from how some of the Khazrad look in Diablo 3, which I think is a fantastic look for Goatmen. Not that I need them though as I have a gakload of miniatures I can use to make varying armies for this game system. Too many perhaps...