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I'm guessing December or January? I got an update from the KS saying they were planning on sending the KS armies for Abyss and Nature at the end of November, so presumably the retail release will follow shortly. You'd think they'd be aiming for christmas, but I'd be surprised if they don't miss that by a month

Since they are still sending out Dungeon saga and based on the 7th December date after which we can email and ask 'where's our stuff' I suspect this will slip into January at best


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Mantic Games

Look what just turned up in the warehouse! Time for some lunchtime reading, methinks...

So can we safely say the street date on this book is now 'IMMINENT'? Waaaay too excited for this thing

- Salvage

I'd be excited but I still haven't received my Hardback rule book and counters

I still haven't received anything for DS or KoW2, including Blaines or anything. I emailed Rich, he asked what I had ordered, I sent it to him, and like that *whoosh* ...he's gone.

Don't know if this has been talked about before, but... anyone knows what the hell is going on with Abyssal Dwarfs' Decimators? They were originally a part-plastic/part-metal kit of 10 models. Then they were redone in full plastic and came in a 20 models kit. Now it seems they're back to half-metal with 10 models, at their old price. I simply don't understand

I think your wires may have been crossed. Mantic have never released plastic Decimators, they have always been the hybrid kit.

I do believe they have had a minor resculpt with more embellished guns and a new head/helmet topper or two for 2015.

 Boss Salvage wrote:
So can we safely say the street date on this book is now 'IMMINENT'? Waaaay too excited for this thing

- Salvage

I just had 15 copies show up from the UK by Fedex. Steet date is NOW!

 Korinov wrote:
Don't know if this has been talked about before, but... anyone knows what the hell is going on with Abyssal Dwarfs' Decimators? They were originally a part-plastic/part-metal kit of 10 models. Then they were redone in full plastic and came in a 20 models kit. Now it seems they're back to half-metal with 10 models, at their old price. I simply don't understand

Mantic changed their pricing to make a standard price for hybrid and restic infantry a while back, but it was the same figures.

They've now updated the metal bits, and gone back to a smaller, more expensive box.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I still haven't received anything for DS or KoW2, including Blaines or anything. I emailed Rich, he asked what I had ordered, I sent it to him, and like that *whoosh* ...he's gone.

My buddy usually just posts on Facebook directly to Ronnie about that kind of stuff.
Ronnie then 'yells' at whoever is responsible and they send him his stuff---often with additional stuff.
Can't hurt.

privateer4hire wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I still haven't received anything for DS or KoW2, including Blaines or anything. I emailed Rich, he asked what I had ordered, I sent it to him, and like that *whoosh* ...he's gone.

My buddy usually just posts on Facebook directly to Ronnie about that kind of stuff.
Ronnie then 'yells' at whoever is responsible and they send him his stuff---often with additional stuff.
Can't hurt.

This is happening way too much with Mantic. Either they are incompetent beyond belief, or one of their packers is relabeling stuff to get shipped to his own house. Either way they need a kickstarter to hire someone capable of sending stuff out and answering emails. Rich promised me that he was mailing my pledge out and then he went on vacation. Steve who took over for him while he was on vacation got my pledge and shipped it to me with an extra rolando and Blaine as an apology. They might write better rules than GW, but I'll take a good old mail order troll to Mantics box boys any day of the week.

 mikhaila wrote:

 Boss Salvage wrote:
So can we safely say the street date on this book is now 'IMMINENT'? Waaaay too excited for this thing

I just had 15 copies show up from the UK by Fedex. Steet date is NOW!

YESSSSSSSS

I'd been hearing 'next week' a lot, will need to check with my LGS!

- Salvage

Thraxas Of Turai wrote:I think your wires may have been crossed. Mantic have never released plastic Decimators, they have always been the hybrid kit.

I do believe they have had a minor resculpt with more embellished guns and a new head/helmet topper or two for 2015.

decker_cky wrote:

 Korinov wrote:
Don't know if this has been talked about before, but... anyone knows what the hell is going on with Abyssal Dwarfs' Decimators? They were originally a part-plastic/part-metal kit of 10 models. Then they were redone in full plastic and came in a 20 models kit. Now it seems they're back to half-metal with 10 models, at their old price. I simply don't understand

Mantic changed their pricing to make a standard price for hybrid and restic infantry a while back, but it was the same figures.

They've now updated the metal bits, and gone back to a smaller, more expensive box.

I see... I thought they had received the same treatment as the Inmortal Guard (the unit was fully redone in restic, although the command group still has metal parts). It's a pity because I was planning to get the 20-models box, but before spending 20€ for 10 hybrid models I'd rather buy another box of the Russian Alternative ones, full metal and higher quality for 5-6 more euros. *Edit: considering the current dollar-euro exchange rate, perhaps a bit more.

Also, it seems the Blacksouls have dissappeared from their catalogue.

If Mantic's really doing well from Kings of War sales now, they need to start a non-Kickstarter project to go through and once a month/quarter/whatever's viable and start development on a plastic core troop sprue for each army with restic core models.

ie, Abyssal Dwarves, Ogres, etc.

 Psychopomp wrote:
If Mantic's really doing well from Kings of War sales now, they need to start a non-Kickstarter project to go through and once a month/quarter/whatever's viable and start development on a plastic core troop sprue for each army with restic core models.

ie, Abyssal Dwarves, Ogres, etc.

I agree 100%

Abyssal Dwarf combi-sprue to make Blacksouls, Immortal Guard, and Decimators would sell insanely well

 judgedoug wrote:

 Psychopomp wrote:
If Mantic's really doing well from Kings of War sales now, they need to start a non-Kickstarter project to go through and once a month/quarter/whatever's viable and start development on a plastic core troop sprue for each army with restic core models.

ie, Abyssal Dwarves, Ogres, etc.

I agree 100%

Abyssal Dwarf combi-sprue to make Blacksouls, Immortal Guard, and Decimators would sell insanely well

I agree as well.

I want Abyssal Dwarves as my second, and first fully Mantic, KoW army, and I picked up two set of Lesser Obsidian Golems from a local store (although one set was missing a bunch of heads/feet, and I'm still waiting for a reply from Mantic on whether or not I can get replacement parts). But I'd like a Horde of Blacksouls, and right now the only option I have is getting a bunch of regular Dwarf infantry and painting them to match the rest of the army.

I've been long tempted by the Abyssal Dwarfs as well, and would love to see plastics to make the various types of infantry. Plus I could use them in Dungeon Saga and whatever other systems I feel like tossing them in.

As nice as it would be to see them fund new plastic kits on their own, I see no real reason for them not to dip back into the crowdfunding pool for an expense of that size.

Maybe once all their current projects are wrapped up we could see them...

If they do new abyssal dwarves I hope for a slight change in the art direction for them, but I won't hold my breath! I'm thinking of converting my Avatars of War Berserkers into "duregar" style evil dwarves with baldy heads and grey skin though.

I'm pretty sure I asked this before but forgot to check for an answer

Is there a good army list to use that would be a good counts as for Sigmarine models? I know they have the angely baselians or however it's spelled, but I wasn't sure if they were a good match.. maybe something more like ogres, since they're all bigger models on 40mm bases?

 Theophony wrote:

This is happening way too much with Mantic. Either they are incompetent beyond belief, or one of their packers is relabeling stuff to get shipped to his own house. Either way they need a kickstarter to hire someone capable of sending stuff out and answering emails. Rich promised me that he was mailing my pledge out and then he went on vacation. Steve who took over for him while he was on vacation got my pledge and shipped it to me with an extra rolando and Blaine as an apology. They might write better rules than GW, but I'll take a good old mail order troll to Mantics box boys any day of the week.

They've been working on four kickstarters this autumn and I can only say it shows. Poor show, Mantic.

Same issue here as Bob - kick them off an email every so often, more promises, no books.

Ogres are perfect, and about half of my Ogre list is converted Sigmarines.

In fact, Ogres allied with Basillians, can literally turn the Sigmarine half of an AoS starter-box, into a valid, and pretty decent 1500pt KoW army.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:


Mantic Games

Look what just turned up in the warehouse! Time for some lunchtime reading, methinks...

Is this the proof-reading phase...after they print the entire run?

The book was written by the rules committee, I think you'll find it to be very solid.

Are we all supposed to have received our Dungeon Saga stuff by now? I only ordered a resin Blaine from that KS, but haven't got it yet. Is it time to email Mantic, or too early?

Submit the form but I don't think they are processing any until the 7th December.

Has Dungeon Saga actually started arriving for any US backers yet? Haven't checked the comments lately. Shipping *was* supposed to start this week after all...

Cool, I'll do Sigmarine Ogres then. I was planning on sticking them on a movement tray and keeping them in 5-model units though but counting as horde sized, having 3 in the front rank, and 2 in the back with a spot in the middle for some dice to use for my wound counters. And then I guess units of Elohi for the sigmarines with flappy wings?

Is that kinda thing allowed? I skimmed the rules once, don't ever remember rules unless I play a lot

 Necros wrote:
Cool, I'll do Sigmarine Ogres then. I was planning on sticking them on a movement tray and keeping them in 5-model units though but counting as horde sized, having 3 in the front rank, and 2 in the back with a spot in the middle for some dice to use for my wound counters. And then I guess units of Elohi for the sigmarines with flappy wings?

Is that kinda thing allowed? I skimmed the rules once, don't ever remember rules unless I play a lot

Of course! 25% of your total build-cost may be spent on allies (assuming your event/group allows allies... but that is the official rule). At 2000pts, for example, your 3-man regiment of Elohi (winged guys), would also unlock a Hero slot, which could be your Paladin on Gryphon (Aka, Sigmar Drackon rider-guy). :-p

 Necros wrote:
Is that kinda thing allowed? I skimmed the rules once, don't ever remember rules unless I play a lot

And if you're talking about 5 models on a '6 model' horde base, you're cool there too

The FAQ has further specifics about needing 50% +1 models of the 'normal amount' of models to be totally kosher (so horde of large infantry = 4+), but I have a feeling there's even more leeway for modeling if needed. I've seen several "one really giant thing on a really big base" to rep things like mammoths that count as a horde of chariots, for example.

- Salvage

The FAQ says the suggested minimum amount, but allows for bigger models taking the space of that minimum amount.