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Dungeon Saga: SOLD OUT!

Having shipped all the games to our Kickstarter backers, we have shipped more than twice that number of copies again to all of our web pre-orders and retailers. That means that all 15,000 copies we originally ordered have gone, and Dungeon Saga: The Dwarf King’s Quest is officially sold out!

which for any sort of boardgame is a big success. They've got a tiny 500 copy top up coming in Jan (presumably the 'cover' for damaged/missing stuff rather than a real re-order). It's going to be interesting to see how this goes after than, and whether all/most of the store and website copies sell through and lead to re-orders

My brother did Dungeon Saga and four of us played the first three scenarios last night.

It's really really good. Don't want to say great, just in case something stupid happens, but I went from vague interest to really enjoying myself.

It's definitely HeroQuest + Advanced HeroQuest in spirit and ease of mechanics. Anyone looking for a Descent tactical combat game is going to be sorely disappointed.

Playing the next few scenarios tomorrow!

Interesting, thanks for that review judgedoug! And to sell 15,000 copies is very impressive

 NTRabbit wrote:

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
Mystery characters:

A Goon pledged for that, the literal brief for this mini was "Danny Glover, as a halfling, who joined the disc world night watch, with a big ass crossbow", and it's amazing

Anyone know if this will be seeing general manufacture, or even be available via Mantic Points?

Because I now have three people that want that figure - four if you count me.

That fellow is all kinds of awesome.

The Auld Grump

It's definitely a lot of fun.

Very quick to play through (we play games on a school night, which you can't really get away with with Descent).

Also, because it's quite straightforward, it's largely immune to the predilections of that friend who always manages to read the rules upside-down and find some funny beardy loop-hole that no-one else has thought of.

Well, Salamanders are a bit OP. Can start with 6 dice. But ofc thats with custom heroes. <.<

Man, should I have ordered it last month? WHAT WAS I WAITING FOR?

Also, are they gonna release that halfling (and other characters not included in the box) for retail? For DnD purposes.

Pretty sure they will eventually, even if only for Mantic points and without an actual clampack - all of the "create your own" minis from KoW 1E (Ur Elohi Julius and Samacris, Keris and Shaarlyot plus dogs), and Dreadball (Drake and the Dynamic Dinoborg, Thunnder Chris, and The Veteran) are on the Mantic Store, unless I've missed some. The Elohi and DB MVPs are even available from retail stores.

 judgedoug wrote:
My brother did Dungeon Saga and four of us played the first three scenarios last night.

It's really really good. Don't want to say great, just in case something stupid happens, but I went from vague interest to really enjoying myself.

It's definitely HeroQuest + Advanced HeroQuest in spirit and ease of mechanics. Anyone looking for a Descent tactical combat game is going to be sorely disappointed.

Playing the next few scenarios tomorrow!

Two players at the FLGS backed the KS and we got to play a couple of scenarios today.
The gameplay was decent from the little bit we played.
The components were likewise good. The rulebook had quite a few errors as the owners of the games were quick to point out.

Privateer Press has its Page 5.
Mantic has its Page XXX.

What errors are there in the rulebook?

 mattjgilbert wrote:
What errors are there in the rulebook?

Several references to the reader to turn to "Page XXX" scattered throughout.
In the section on races, the Salamander (IIRC) description was cut and pasted into another race's description on another page.
There was also some loose sheet in the table of contents, which we assumed was to address errors/omissions there.

One of the guys who brought his DS set in said Mantic was offering an edited version to backers.
He had been told that it would cost him around $4 to get the replacement.

Those are wellknown though. I think what confused Matt was your reference to the rulebook. Youre talking about the adventurers companion, the rulebook is the one in the base game.
And yeah, theres a fixed version coming. But because its an issue affecting *every* backer, its get very expensive for Mantic. As it is, youll have to pay for shipping. Retail customers arent affected though.

 Tyr13 wrote:
Those are wellknown though. I think what confused Matt was your reference to the rulebook. Youre talking about the adventurers companion, the rulebook is the one in the base game.
And yeah, theres a fixed version coming. But because its an issue affecting *every* backer, its get very expensive for Mantic. As it is, youll have to pay for shipping. Retail customers arent affected though.

Yeah. I had heard the book had errors like the Page XXX. I just hadn't seen it in the flesh.
My friend who had commented on the $4 said that was for Mantic to ship the book to him.
The replacement book is effectively free but Mantic aren't going to cover the shipping.

EDIT: The rulebook that had errors was the hard cover one, which is what I think Tyr is saying is the adventurer's companion.

Yep. The AC *does* contain the core rules, but the actual rulebook is one of the thinner leaflets in the core box. And that version doesnt have any errors. Or at least none that Im currently aware of.

Does anyone knows when the Uncharted Empires book gonna be released? I though it should came in November, but i just can "pre order" the book on the Mantic HP.

It's already out,

I suspect it's sold out at Mantic HQ, so you'll have to pre-order and wait for a second printing or track one down instore or online

Uncharted Empires is certainly out, as Barzam got one in a random Kings of War order that he never made, with an invoice cost of $0.00.

That was odd.

Looking at the ratkin artwork in the book makes me wonder if Mantic would ever consider making a sprue of fantasy weapons for their Veermyn to turn them in to Ratkins.

I guess we'll see how well they compare size- wise to Skaven when Infestation is released. If the plastics are similarly sized it could make for some interesting conversions.

Played the next couple of scenarios. The one with the Undead Troll was tough the first time through, we lost. Second time through was a lot easier. There's definitely a synergistic learning curve for getting your heroes to work together.

However, the Banshee scenario was a breeze - either that or we just did everything perfectly. I suspect that's more for a "here's how an evil hero works, and here's how these ghosts work" as the first three normal game scenarios definitely have the ramping-up-to-learn-all-the-rules feel. Looks like the next scenario is gonna be really fun though, with the environment hazards.

 Paintalist wrote:
Does anyone knows when the Uncharted Empires book gonna be released? I though it should came in November, but i just can "pre order" the book on the Mantic HP.

A local player in New Mexico ordered one from our FLGS and had his book in hand yesterday.

privateer4hire wrote:

 Paintalist wrote:
Does anyone knows when the Uncharted Empires book gonna be released? I though it should came in November, but i just can "pre order" the book on the Mantic HP.

A local player in New Mexico ordered one from our FLGS and had his book in hand yesterday.

My FLGS got some in stock last week. Have had my copy in hand since then...

Valete,

JohnS

privateer4hire wrote:

 Tyr13 wrote:
Those are wellknown though. I think what confused Matt was your reference to the rulebook. Youre talking about the adventurers companion, the rulebook is the one in the base game.
And yeah, theres a fixed version coming. But because its an issue affecting *every* backer, its get very expensive for Mantic. As it is, youll have to pay for shipping. Retail customers arent affected though.

Yeah. I had heard the book had errors like the Page XXX. I just hadn't seen it in the flesh.
My friend who had commented on the $4 said that was for Mantic to ship the book to him.
The replacement book is effectively free but Mantic aren't going to cover the shipping.

EDIT: The rulebook that had errors was the hard cover one, which is what I think Tyr is saying is the adventurer's companion.

Ah, ok. Yes the errors in the AC are known. I hadn't heard about any in the book that comes with the game which is what I thought you meant.


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 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Uncharted Empires is certainly out, as Barzam got one in a random Kings of War order that he never made, with an invoice cost of $0.00.

An order turned up that nobody made? What!?

As far as I know, Barzam had placed an order for a sprue of Salamanders. That's it.

Ended up with all the printed materials and counters from the Kings of War Kickstarter campaign as well, including that Uncharted Empires book. As far as he knows, he had put in for a buck and upped it in the PM for the salamanders.

Maybe he can show up here and clarify.

Demons, actually. I haven't really had a chance to contact them about that. But yeah, I'd done a $1 pledge and upped it in the pledge manager for a sprue of demons and their metal hero. I really don't recall adding any printed material or counters. It was so long ago that I'm not entirely certain, but I'm pretty sure I didn't pledge for those items. Is there any way to check that? I'd like to be sure before I contact them.

I also still don't have my missing Dreadball stuff. I got all hopeful it was my missing stuff when that KOW box arrived.

If it makes you feel better, I pledged the base plus two mega armies, and I still haven't gotten my counters or the bulk of the movement trays I pledged for.

It's not like this game requires trays or counters or anything...

So, I was finally able to confirm what I had pledged for. All I pledged for was the Lower Abyssals regiment and the Abyssal Champion. My grand total was $27. I'd like to know how I wound up with a completely different order. I've contacted them. We'll see if I get a response and how long it takes.

Maybe as an apology for totally bombing on getting you your DBX stuff? That's just crazy that they sent you so much stuff you never ordered.

Hopefully they still send your abyssals...

That's.... interesting. Let us know what they say.

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After Chinese customs decided to keep 10, 000 lower abyssal sprues for 6 weeks we ordered them again - and flew them in instead of the boat route. They have arrived smile emoticon
At end of this week or early next all the Abyssal and Forces of Nature KoW armies ship to KS backers with the Destiny of Kings book.

Have we seen what the greater elemental will look like for the Nature army?

It was supposed to have been based off of the Obsidian Golem, but I don't even know what the final art looks like.

Last I saw it was kind of kaiju- like with a tail and everything...

Any word yet on possible retail release dates for Salamander Primes and Naiads? We've already seen the models in Uncharted Empires after all.