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 Dawnbringer wrote:

 Micky wrote:


*shrug* I've got dozens of Infinity models, I'm used to metal by now.

I'm just old. What is this "plas-tick" stuff anyway?.. :p

Hey, if you're that old, you remember the horrible plastic that Heritage used to use....

Drastic Plastic and Psycho Styrene from GW was way back when as well....

The Auld Grump

I have not really payed much attention to KOW, but flicking through the uncharted empires book in my FLGS I came across the new Neritica faction. So now I am going to grab a demo game. When are the plastic trident realms model coming out? Also are the basic troops the only thing that got unlocked for them on the recent kickstarter.

The naiads are definitely some time this year, Id guess well see them in summer, maybe even earlier... hard to say though. Im also not aware of any other trident realms models coming out, though we might still be surprised... wouldnt hold my breath though.


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Actually, never mind. Theyre released next month, just checked the blog.

RoninXiC wrote:
Not bad, not bad. I actually cannot find any kind of flaw in these. MAAAAYBE the human part is a bit too big.

My question is why does a centaur's human portion end after the stomach? Both the human and horse digestive areas are neccessary? does that mean it #2's into its second stomach.? if they were saytr they'd be great.

one of those questions that make you wonder; like how does a beholder eat if it has no stomach, is its digestive system simi-pocketed away in a small dimensional dimi-space.?

The human tract digests meat while the horse tract digests the dozens of pounds of grass the centaurs need to eat every day to obtain enough calories to survive. That's why you see them constantly cropping the grass or eating baby seals rich in blubber.

 Tyr13 wrote:
The naiads are definitely some time this year, Id guess well see them in summer, maybe even earlier... hard to say though. Im also not aware of any other trident realms models coming out, though we might still be surprised... wouldnt hold my breath though.


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Actually, never mind. Theyre released next month, just checked the blog.

Yeah, one kind of unconventional thing about Kings of War is that they are making army lists without any apparent intent to make models for them. The Ratkin list, for example, appears to be there just for Skaven figures and there have been no Mantic Ratkin figures announced at all.

Well, they *did* design them primarily for WHF refugees. Or at least, thats what they set out to do, and then it evolved from there. Though they are planning to release miniatures at some point in the future.

I'm pretty certain that the Uncharted Empires armies (not including the trident realms and Nightstalkers) were 'just' for people to plug their existing armies into and there were no plans for Mantic model ranges

For many of them, yeah.

I do think some of the lists in Uncharted Empires though were for things Mantic had ideas on (The nightcrawler ones specifically) but hadn't fully fleshed out design wise.

The strange thing - some of my very favorite Kings of War armies are in Uncharted Empires, even if they were 'borrowed' from Warhammer.

The reason that is strange?

I did not own armies for either Tomb Kings or Brettonians, and I really like both The Empire of Dust and The Brotherhood....

The Auld Grump

Mantic pops a couple decent kits out with each K-starter. <---Totally on topic post

Yeah, they might expand their miniatures line to include more Uncharted Empires stuff at some point. As it stands right now though, the only Uncharted Empires stuff that's getting models is stuff that's shared by a core army list (such as the Naiads and Salamanders being in the Nature list). Given that most of the core lists still have some entries with no official models, I wouldn't hold my breath on the Uncharted Empires stuff.

I think its safe to say that Neritica and Night Stalkers will both *eventually* get official models, because those are original armies and not designed for refugees from warhams.

But... except for stuff included in Forces of Nature, don't hold your breath about them coming any time soon.

 Micky wrote:
I think its safe to say that Neritica and Night Stalkers will both *eventually* get official models, because those are original armies and not designed for refugees from warhams.

But... except for stuff included in Forces of Nature, don't hold your breath about them coming any time soon.

That seems like a squandered opportunity to me. KoW is a great game gaining popularity. I think it's safe to say Uncharted Empires sold well and so the Neritica and Nightstalker lists are getting plenty of exposure and those are the armies that would best served by original Mantic models. The longer Mantic waits to produce a more complete model range it allows other manufacturers to fill the void and probably discourages some people from playing the lists.

I thought there had actually been semi- official talk of having the Nightstalker army kickstarted at some future point.

Or perhaps it was just wishful thinking, but I honestly thought it was something discussed.

Prestor Jon wrote:

 Micky wrote:
I think its safe to say that Neritica and Night Stalkers will both *eventually* get official models, because those are original armies and not designed for refugees from warhams.

But... except for stuff included in Forces of Nature, don't hold your breath about them coming any time soon.

That seems like a squandered opportunity to me. KoW is a great game gaining popularity. I think it's safe to say Uncharted Empires sold well and so the Neritica and Nightstalker lists are getting plenty of exposure and those are the armies that would best served by original Mantic models. The longer Mantic waits to produce a more complete model range it allows other manufacturers to fill the void and probably discourages some people from playing the lists.

Well the lists in the core book have existed for 4-5 years and a lot of them are missing a bunch of models too.


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 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I thought there had actually been semi- official talk of having the Nightstalker army kickstarted at some future point.

Or perhaps it was just wishful thinking, but I honestly thought it was something discussed.

Yeah I remember hearing that too.

Prestor Jon wrote:

 Micky wrote:
I think its safe to say that Neritica and Night Stalkers will both *eventually* get official models, because those are original armies and not designed for refugees from warhams.

But... except for stuff included in Forces of Nature, don't hold your breath about them coming any time soon.

That seems like a squandered opportunity to me. KoW is a great game gaining popularity. I think it's safe to say Uncharted Empires sold well and so the Neritica and Nightstalker lists are getting plenty of exposure and those are the armies that would best served by original Mantic models. The longer Mantic waits to produce a more complete model range it allows other manufacturers to fill the void and probably discourages some people from playing the lists.

They can't go out and make everything at once, especially not plastic kits, costs too much money. Short of another Kickstarter they can really only do what they're doing now, half a dozen new metals and one new plastic kit every six months.

Does anyone have a link to the new missing item/messaging system? I've been looking all over the site, but can't find it. Thanks in advance.

@Mikes

Under contact on the Mantic site.
https://manticgames.freshdesk.com/support/home

Cheers, mate.

In reply to RT from a week or so ago - there's always going to be an element of "lolinternet" because, you know. Internet. Mostly, though - Mantic's constant feth ups, extraordinarily slowness in rectifying those feth ups (Bob's waiting for his KoW2 stuff, I'm waiting for my DS replacements, Polonius is waiting for his movement trays) don't endear. They also have some pretty consistent design and (lack of) art direction issues as well which results in very uneven sculpts and design direction. It seems that an increasing number of people are also becoming more disturbed by their over-reliance on the volunteer RC for rules and editing. I'm all for this particular group of people having input, but they should be paid as freelancers at this point, as they're responsible for vast improvements to KoW and now presumably DeadZone, which is what has drawn people like yourself to the game in that it's a great ruleset in its own right, rather than a simple alternative.

 Da Boss wrote:
Pretty sweet centaurs. Better than GW's centigor, for sure.

I really like the GW centigors myself, though these look good as well. My concern would be on the way that arms and other parts join with the core pieces, presumably the body. The Ogre Breserkers are great sculpts. but they have completely flat joins for the arms wheras a ball joint/peg would have been a much smarter and more user-friendly way to go. I had them in hand for all of a couple of seconds before seeing it as an obvious and simple point of improvement, but it seems that no-one at Mantic makes those decisions. I mean, you can be that if they were GW or any number of other small companies' models that would have been thought of. I'd want to see the actual unpainted unassembled models, because I fear they could be a nightmare of pinning.


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 NTRabbit wrote:

Prestor Jon wrote:

That seems like a squandered opportunity to me. KoW is a great game gaining popularity. I think it's safe to say Uncharted Empires sold well and so the Neritica and Nightstalker lists are getting plenty of exposure and those are the armies that would best served by original Mantic models. The longer Mantic waits to produce a more complete model range it allows other manufacturers to fill the void and probably discourages some people from playing the lists.

They can't go out and make everything at once, especially not plastic kits, costs too much money. Short of another Kickstarter they can really only do what they're doing now, half a dozen new metals and one new plastic kit every six months.

I do have to agree with NT here (first time for everything, eh?) They're still in the process of releasing a lot of other stuff from the KoW2 KS and producing new kits across their existing ranges. I think it's a pretty good gesture for them to release and allow for Skaven, Beastmen, TK, etc armies in their game. It's good business, no doubt - but still.


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 Afrozombie wrote:
Hey guys check out are new KickStarter; Mini-Crate!! We have Miniatures from two awesome games made by Mantic - 'Kings of War' and 'Dreadball'
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1625281219/1095842773?token=5b8283dc
There is going to be a total of 11 miniatures[b] in this first Mini-Crate

Swear filter misses a certain word there.
Oh no, I said the word aloud and got in trouble off my mum, thanks Azazelx!

Fixed for you. And say hi to your mum for me!

Wow. A blind buy nerdcrate on Kickstarter with a raffle ticket to win bigger prizes. I think KS has hit a new low...

eleven Mantic miniatures for only £25! I'm hoping it's a ten-man Elf archer sprue and a Dreadball Buzzcut.



ILLUSTRATION PREPOSSESS

wow.

who needs "illustrative purposes" when one can have "illustration prepossess"?!

Meanwhile, just for luls i'll point out Mantic's holiday mystery boxes which net you... oh... 50+ miniatures for $40. :-p

The shame is that it's actually a pretty cool idea. If for ~$30 I could get 6 minis from high end, boutique companies, plus some other goodies? I'd be interested.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Meanwhile, just for luls i'll point out Mantic's holiday mystery boxes which net you... oh... 50+ miniatures for $40. :-p

I thought that was over? Nowadays you are required to buy one bigger box for $80 or something, right?

The old mystery boxes were a good deal.

 Vermonter wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Meanwhile, just for luls i'll point out Mantic's holiday mystery boxes which net you... oh... 50+ miniatures for $40. :-p

I thought that was over? Nowadays you are required to buy one bigger box for $80 or something, right?

The old mystery boxes were a good deal.

No, the last time around they did a normal mystery box (albeit Sci-Fi only) and an "Uber" box for twice the price. Despite hints that the latter would be really special, it was really just the contents of two normal boxes without the risk of content being repeated, with some LOKA stuff so that it technically wasn't entirely Sci-Fi.

This most recent batch definitely felt like the worst deal to date though, possibly because the stuff was more obviously random clearance than normal (i.e. Mars Attacks that they're no longer selling, LOKA teams that are useless by themselves, Warpath models that are being replaced, the fat female Dreadball MVP & Bug MVP that I've had in every single box to date, the scenery sprues that aren't part of the standard sets...).

Sounds like I should get a mystery box.

Wait, I thought Kickstarter rules banned raffles and contests?