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 Zywus wrote:
Some pictures of unpainted and/or unassembled Wyrm and Steel behemoth





Seems time to update the thread title a bit BTW.
Should someone contact a mod, or how's this normally handled?

Press the yellow triangle in the top corner of your post to contact a MOD and then give them a quick word on what needs to be done.

I just assembled 2 of the new living legends from the summer campaign. These models are *great* folks - super good detail and resin had no real defects out of the box. Only minor filling around the tail section for Eckter.

Mantic really stepped up their game on those two for sure, want to pick up the abyssal chick at some point now

Hopefully some rumors about vanguard will start dripping down soon, because I'm going crazy waiting for it

 ulgurstasta wrote:
Hopefully some rumors about vanguard will start dripping down soon, because I'm going crazy waiting for it

https://www.facebook.com/manticgames/videos/10155599279892319/

 DaveC wrote:

 ulgurstasta wrote:
Hopefully some rumors about vanguard will start dripping down soon, because I'm going crazy waiting for it

https://www.facebook.com/manticgames/videos/10155599279892319/

Well that was a waste of 14 seconds of my life....like reading this post I guess.

Dammit! Now you owe me 28 seconds! Oh God... its spreading.... no one read this!

 Theophony wrote:

 DaveC wrote:

 ulgurstasta wrote:
Hopefully some rumors about vanguard will start dripping down soon, because I'm going crazy waiting for it

https://www.facebook.com/manticgames/videos/10155599279892319/

Well that was a waste of 14 seconds of my life....like reading this post I guess.

*sees Mantic Facebook post being all, "Big news from Mantic!" clicks video, starts sip of coffee*

"TU TU RUUUU! VANGUARD!"

*finishes sip of coffee, raises eyebrow, moves on to news with actual information*

They had a post on their forums asking what people wanted or expected from Vanguard, wonder what they settled on.

Well those of us who actually have information about Vanguard are under NDA.

I'm looking forward to Mantic officially releasing some information so I can discuss things. Until then my lips are sealed.

Well, I think I'm allowed to say my gaming group quite enjoys it.

I just hope it is about Deadzone size

 kodos wrote:
I just hope it is about Deadzone size

Test game shown on Facebook showed a 3x3 table - that's not to say it can't be bigger or smaller.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/6090/445605.page#9507640

I just hope that even if in-game it is clean and rules-light, that it has a LOT of crunch between games. I want meaningful progression, leveling, loot. I want base-building, between-game events etc...

After cutting my teeth on real Necromunda, and seeing modern games like Frostgrave and This is Not a Test, I want something more substantial than FG, not lighter.

 DaveC wrote:

Test game shown on Facebook showed a 3x3 table - that's not to say it can't be bigger or smaller.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/6090/445605.page#9507640

I know that picture but it does not mean much without the details

I like KoW but don't have a need large Skirmish game as SAGA fills the slot here (historical and fantasy).
So if Vanguard ends up using 20+ models for a standard game, I am out

If it is more like Deadzone and/or RPG like (ands also comes with terrain) it would be an instabuy.

http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/new/the-walking-dead-all-out-war.html

As a random aside while we wait on Vanguard stuff... this is an AMAZING deal. Walking Dead really caught me off guard as a very quick playing, but surprisingly strategic game. It really inhabits that "X-wing" space, of being quick, accessible, and fun when you want to play a table-top game, but don't quite want to set up a 6x4 for 40k, etc...

If you take a dinged up outer box, these are something like 40% off retail, and include a bunch of exclusives you can't buy elsewhere.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
I just hope that even if in-game it is clean and rules-light, that it has a LOT of crunch between games. I want meaningful progression, leveling, loot. I want base-building, between-game events etc...

After cutting my teeth on real Necromunda, and seeing modern games like Frostgrave and This is Not a Test, I want something more substantial than FG, not lighter.

Yeah so many recent attempts at skirmish campaign games have failed at this... if the campaign system isn't at least as involved as Necromunda, I pretty much instantly dismiss it. It's more important to me than the actual gameplay rules. Haven't looked at This is not a Test but it seems to be the only one that does it right from what I hear. Frostgrave is out simply because you only have two (one?) real, actual characters in your warband.

 Mymearan wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
I just hope that even if in-game it is clean and rules-light, that it has a LOT of crunch between games. I want meaningful progression, leveling, loot. I want base-building, between-game events etc...

After cutting my teeth on real Necromunda, and seeing modern games like Frostgrave and This is Not a Test, I want something more substantial than FG, not lighter.

Yeah so many recent attempts at skirmish campaign games have failed at this... if the campaign system isn't at least as involved as Necromunda, I pretty much instantly dismiss it. It's more important to me than the actual gameplay rules. Haven't looked at This is not a Test but it seems to be the only one that does it right from what I hear. Frostgrave is out simply because you only have two (one?) real, actual characters in your warband.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Frostgrave. I think for that level of "crunch" rules-wise, it is an excellent game, and between all of its expansions, it has a wealth of fun options. It just doesn't quite always satisfy me as a campaign system. Its terrific... but not quite my skirmish-RPG holy-grail. The closest to that is probably This is Not a Test, but it just needs a LOAD more content to maintain longevity, and new campaign content really doesn't come out all that often.

Also, just to reiterate the above, i'm hearing those "2nd Chance" Walking Dead KS editions I linked to are down to the last few. Ronnie's actually picking orders himself.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:

Also, just to reiterate the above, i'm hearing those "2nd Chance" Walking Dead KS editions I linked to are down to the last few. Ronnie's actually picking orders himself.

Do they have all of the KS stuff in them? Is "Atlanta" aka "Days Gone Bye"?

I too am hopeful for this one.

Not too many figures, not too over reliant on mages, with a bit of character building between battles.

Dracula's America looks hopeful in terms of campaign stuff (and I can use my extensive Brimstone & Malifaux collections) but it's western, not fantasy.

I just wanted to pop in and say that I feel like I am going to perish of old age before Mantic release the new Men at Arms. The original ones were the last thing I bought from them...

 Azazelx wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:

Also, just to reiterate the above, i'm hearing those "2nd Chance" Walking Dead KS editions I linked to are down to the last few. Ronnie's actually picking orders himself.

Do they have all of the KS stuff in them? Is "Atlanta" aka "Days Gone Bye"?

I believe "Days Gone Bye" was the first bigger expansion (The Greene farm, characters/scenarios) but don't hold me to it.

Edit: I'm wrong, you're right. Days Gone By is Atlanta, and yes its contents are included in the KS bundle.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
I just hope that even if in-game it is clean and rules-light, that it has a LOT of crunch between games. I want meaningful progression, leveling, loot. I want base-building, between-game events etc...

After cutting my teeth on real Necromunda, and seeing modern games like Frostgrave and This is Not a Test, I want something more substantial than FG, not lighter.

While I also have hope for an extensive campaign system, I dont think thats gonna happen for Vanguard, at least not initially. Doesn't really fit Mantic memo

 Maccwar wrote:
Well those of us who actually have information about Vanguard are under NDA.

I'm looking forward to Mantic officially releasing some information so I can discuss things. Until then my lips are sealed.

Well hopefully they will unseal your lips soon, because I dont think this radio silence is helping building up interest for Vanguard

Beasts of War have posted pictures of Mantic's forthcoming Fire Elementals (both Greater and Lesser) as well as Vampire on Undead Dragon.

http://www.beastsofwar.com/kings-of-war/exclusive-fiery-elementals-undead-dragons/

I like those fire elementals. They aren't overdone in design like I've seen in some before.

The fire elementals looks really good I think





Is there any difference to the dragon and the wyrm model-wise, apart from a headswap?

Wings? But other than that no.

 Llamahead wrote:
Wings? But other than that no.

The wings are optional to the wyrm, but it can have them as well.

 Llamahead wrote:
Wings? But other than that no.

Huh, I could swear the head is different as well.

 Bolognesus wrote:

 Llamahead wrote:
Wings? But other than that no.

Huh, I could swear the head is different as well.

Zywus said "apart from the headswap".

Still looks fething terrible. I'll stick with my Bones undead dragons thanks.

...Oops. Sorry
Really though? IMO it's better than any bones dragon for it's niche (and I have a few I'm perfectly happy with already).
I really like the much wyrm-ier concept, too, and I don't think the bones range has anything really like that available. Might even be the first Mantic purchase in a long time for me.