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Thought I would take some pictures of the crazy warping of the Brimstone's front legs. The one on the right is the correct one, while the other one’s foot has been warped inwards to an extreme degree:



Both of the front legs for both of my Kickstarter extra Brimstones are warped like this. Anyone else have Brimstones with legs this badly warped?

Not had mine yet, tho Parcel farce never been the quickest in my neck of the woods

Got my tracking number - I should have my wave 1 stuff soon!

 General Seric wrote:
Thought I would take some pictures of the crazy warping of the Brimstone's front legs. The one on the right is the correct one, while the other one’s foot has been warped inwards to an extreme degree:



Both of the front legs for both of my Kickstarter extra Brimstones are warped like this. Anyone else have Brimstones with legs this badly warped?

The material tends to do that - no problem though, just get some hot water and it'll be fixed in no time (also rather good for repositioning a thinnish arm or two, usually!)

Only warping issue was the gendlr back having a gap. Not that bad to fill with putty. Other issue I encountered was glueing models on the bases. There is on type of base that is grooved so reduces surface area to glue on. My just put a little putty under the feet for a better contact.

I have to get this off my chest or I am going to explode. I am really really disappointed with the figures I have received. The best model so far out of the set of figures is the AI Drone. The resin Kara sculpt is excellent. It's how all these figures should have been cast. The vanguard are so tiny. I didn't realize how small they were going to be, more to a true 28mm. Assembly has been nothing less than an adventure because I don't have the hands of a 12 year old girl.

The Cthonian figures legs when placed look like he's bow legged. I may have to just cut the tab off completely and pin them. 3 poses of vanguard figures (1 male and 2 female) with only 2 varieties of rifles. So on the one female figure it doesn't fit properly.

The plastic/resin/plesin/rastic or whatever combo of filler used to mold is crap. I shouldn't have to buy expensive files/Acetone or use voodoo magic to remove the mold lines on this hard hard hard plastic. I don't care that this is a "boardgame" as it wasn't presented that way. I had no expectation that the quality of the figures would be less than was shown to me on the KS.

"amazing miniatures from Mike McVey!"
"the contents and play materials of the game are of the highest quality"
"Sedition Wars : Battle for Alabaster represents the best that miniatures gaming has to offer!"
And a 1:52 video of the figures on a turn table.

I call Shenanigins that these figures are "of the highest quality" and that the set of figures I have recieved outside of the resin Kara figure are "the best that miniatures gaming has to offer". I bought this game for the miniatures. The playability of the rules was secondary. It was all about the figures. So for me this has been truly a disappointment.

I realize now that with a value of a kickstarter you get what you pay for and that to keep the cost down subpar materials are used. Figures packed in multiple bags. Warped pieces. Huge gaps. No assembly instructions provided. So for those buying this game in stores will the game contain a link for assembly instructions on the website?

I feel better now. xo

Mines in

Honestly I would have preferred them to keep them on the sprues assuming they came on sprues. I might lose some parts if they fall out of a bag. I dont really get the point of those 2 stupid empty rectangles on the edges, suppose they're there for the bags to not roll around

Agreed that construction instructions would be nice, unless I'm blind and I cant find it. Even GW Snap Fit Kits have instructions. And they even threw in a Strain Conversion pic in the rulebook without really telling the basics of building

I spent a good 10 min trying to figure out where one leftover piece needed to go. The rifle and pouches, finally found it fit on Vades back. The assembly blogs could of been done sooner to prep us for all these parts.

For a boardgame I'm please with the minis. Actually been pretty pleased with the last few boardgames I bought with the quality. Gears of War are by far my favorite.

 Ravenblade666 wrote:
Not had mine yet, tho Parcel farce never been the quickest in my neck of the woods

You mean parcelfarce! Me ansum!

Anyone else having FedEx not showing their tracking number?

 Forlorn wrote:
I shouldn't have to buy expensive files/Acetone or use voodoo magic to remove the mold lines on this hard hard hard plastic.

...or, you know, a $1,99 NEW and SHARP hobby knife.
Really, how do some of you manage to get up in the morning unaided without killing yourself horribly?

@Bolognesus

Don't ask. It's a trial I face everyday!

 Bolognesus wrote:

 Forlorn wrote:
I shouldn't have to buy expensive files/Acetone or use voodoo magic to remove the mold lines on this hard hard hard plastic.

...or, you know, a $1,99 NEW and SHARP hobby knife.
Really, how do some of you manage to get up in the morning unaided without killing yourself horribly?

This is in reference to the fact that when it was brought up that a NEW and SHARP hobby knife shreds the plastic rather then simply removing the mold lines, we were told that using expensive files or acetone would fix the issue. Forlorn thought the addition of Voodoo Magic would show it was tongue in cheek..

Now I (and most folks) will realize that the mold lines must be sliced off rather then scraped off (like we're used to with most plastics) but it was amusing that people were so anxious to defend a product they didn't have in their hands.

If you were to suggest using liquid greenstuff on a finecast model it's the end of times though.

Yes, they are so very, very expensive....

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004T7WP/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_3?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B000SP0JKS&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=06F3SGJWQ8M2JA4GJ670

I will assemble and mould line clean any sedition wars models for $20. Offer stands. PM me with interest.

Ahem, I don´t know what the guy above is using, but I can clean them with a knife and files without problems. OK, the files should be a little bit higher quality and cost more, but a set of several different blades costs me less the 1$ and does the job. Maybe not as flush as the files, but still....

Either his hands are all thumbs or he uses the wrong tools.... else I don´t know how he manages to have problems with the minis.

And what do you need aceton for?

Oh, and looking at the KS-website it still says Boardgame there....

A Deep Space Horror board game with 50 amazing miniatures from Mike McVey!

If you do expect highest quality resin miniatures that normally cost 15-40 $ per miniature to get for 1-5$ from this KS, than it´s fully your fault. And still, the quality is quite excellent for a board game and even when it comes to TT-miniatures they are quite good and above standard. I have gotten worse from GW in Finecast for a much higher price.


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Oh, and in case some of you have problems, that happens with every product and 3% failure rate is quite normal (Finecast had 50+% when it started), but:

Howdy folks,

As we receive our shipments, unpack the boxes, and ooh and aah over the wonderful models, some of us may unfortunately find a piece or two missing, or other quality/packing issue.

Note that some of the models may have pieces in different bags, so double check that and whatnot. It's best practice to lay everything out, matching different parts of the same model together (e.g. male body, male arms, female body, female arms, etc) and then counting everything.

If you're still missing things, please email: support@coolminiornot.com
Include a clear description of the problem and any other information they might need to resolve the issue.

Please keep in mind that there are a lot of us getting these all at once, so some patience is warranted if they don't get back to you right away.

If we receive any additional information in how to resolve these issues, it will posted here.

This topic will be locked as it is purely informative in nature.

Thanks!

 Duncan_Idaho wrote:
Oh, and looking at the KS-website it still says Boardgame there....

Because it's a game played on a board. You're the only one who doesn't seem to comprehend that that covers everything from chits to standees to miniatures.

If you do expect highest quality resin miniatures...

They explicitly used the phrase "the contents and play materials of the game are of the highest quality." And you're pretending it's our fault if they didn't live up to their own sales pitch?

I have gotten worse from GW in Finecast for a much higher price.

That's because Finecast is gak. But like I've been quoted as saying before, a product merely being less gak than gak isn't anything you should be shouting from the rooftops.

Nope, just being a realist and not some kind of wishfull thinker. And you really need to find fault with something no matter what, eh?

Yeah... I'm still waiting for my box to come, but if SW is subpar, given their BG and CMoN's, that's false advertising and "it's a board game" isn't an excuse or even a reason.

To give an analogy, If the game manual was advertised to be "in color" and it arrived B+W with one color, arguing that it's technically in color, or that it being a board game somehow excuses it not being in full color would be a weak argument at best.

This is essentially the same argument, except that color more obviously means full color than highest quality might... actually, on second thought, highest quality is pretty absolute.

 Duncan_Idaho wrote:


Oh, and looking at the KS-website it still says Boardgame there....

A Deep Space Horror board game with 50 amazing miniatures from Mike McVey!

If you do expect highest quality resin miniatures that normally cost 15-40 $ per miniature to get for 1-5$ from this KS, than it´s fully your fault. And still, the quality is quite excellent for a board game and even when it comes to TT-miniatures they are quite good and above standard. I have gotten worse from GW in Finecast for a much higher price.

You seemed to have missed these quotes from the KS sight as well:

amazing miniatures from Mike McVey!
The contents and play materials of the game are of the highest quality
Sedition Wars : Battle for Alabaster represents the best that miniatures gaming has to offer!
Sedition Wars : Battle for Alabaster is a fast paced tactical miniatures game for two player

The board tiles aren't nearly as good as Zombicides. But honestly that's just being nit picky. They're sturdy enough and other then my tokens being off center I find no fault in the board. I had no intentions of ever using the board anyhow.

And if we're going to keep pointing out the fact that this is a "board game"...fine. Space Hulk is a board game. With high quality components. That's what I was expecting. That is not what I got.

The tiles and tokens are good quality. As stated above they aren't as detailed as Zombicide but are good enough. I also really like the idea of putting the infection tokens under the bases. That was a genius idea. I also understand that for a 100.00 investment I can't expect the same quality as say Scribor, Maxmini, GW etc. I understand that. But I expected better than what I received. It's obvious though that the material used for these figures is cheap. Warped parts from a brand new line. Really? That surprises me that a new line of figures would have this issue. Or is this not really a surprise at all?

The last thing I'll say on this whole "board game" issue is simply this, why would there be so much emphasis placed on the sculpts if this were simply to be "board game" quality figures? Why all the WIP shots, the video, line after line advertising the top quality of the miniatures, and the stretch goals being additional figures?

Bah. Foiled again. Still no SW on my doorstep!!!

Yup, I'm still waiting, too, with nothing of the tracking info working for me.

I am not getting very exited about the things I am hearing of the minis. While I knew about the "restic" early on, I still expected quality minis like Space Hulk, or the 40K starter boxes. Otherwise known as, very high detail minis, who go together superbly easy.

Obviously I am not gonna call it until I have the minis in hand, but I am extremely wary after everything I've heard of things like warping and components not matching up on the female Vanguard.

I use a wood carving blade it is curved and has worked wonders on PP minis, and Mantics, I change it out every 12-15 minis and does a wonderful job. The old blades are kept to do rough work on terrain or other bits, so they do not go to waste. hmmmm $100 for a game with 50 minis, $40-$50 for 5 to 10 GW minis really you people are comparing these... shame on you

Ulsif wrote:
$100 for a game with 50 minis, $40-$50 for 5 to 10 GW minis really you people are comparing these... shame on you

I'd actually say that Space Hulk is the obvious analogue. 38 single pose minis, a bunch of board tiles, counters, and doors, also for $100. I'll reserve judgement until I get the minis, but that's the comparison you should be making, and what at least some people were making.



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I dunno. Despite the fact that I don't yet have mine, the photos Dentry posted make me pretty contented.

Yeah but at the same time it looks like the tacky plastic from the BattleTech intro box. That has me worried.

 Bellygrub wrote:

 Duncan_Idaho wrote:


Oh, and looking at the KS-website it still says Boardgame there....

A Deep Space Horror board game with 50 amazing miniatures from Mike McVey!

If you do expect highest quality resin miniatures that normally cost 15-40 $ per miniature to get for 1-5$ from this KS, than it´s fully your fault. And still, the quality is quite excellent for a board game and even when it comes to TT-miniatures they are quite good and above standard. I have gotten worse from GW in Finecast for a much higher price.

You seemed to have missed these quotes from the KS sight as well:

amazing miniatures from Mike McVey!
The contents and play materials of the game are of the highest quality
Sedition Wars : Battle for Alabaster represents the best that miniatures gaming has to offer!
Sedition Wars : Battle for Alabaster is a fast paced tactical miniatures game for two player

The above is why I sunk so much money into this Kickstarter. I expected the same quality as the metal sedition wars figures at least, this is nowhere close.

Well, D6 generation seems to think the miniatures are great.


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This gentleman has posted a unboxing review

Personally, I was disappointed with the figures for the base game. I think they are a little bit too shoddy to be marketed as "miniatures", and too much work to be marketed as a "board game", not to mention my actual boards were pretty warped. It feels a lot like the Super Dungeon Explore minis to me.

I'll manage. I've assembled worse kits, and for 100 bucks, I'm sure I'll get my moneys worth out of em. TBH, I really just ordered it for the clear figures for Infinity camo markers. The board game is just a bonus!

Ruleswise, the game looks amusing. Look forward to a playthrough or two.

I looked at my Barker model next to the one I got in my box game today and I honestly cannot tell the difference. I think once you prime them you will not either. The darker grey tends to hide the detail from the eye, I have no idea what it is some of you expected to see.

Also, if you got a bad part, either fix it or just email CMON I am sure they will replace it.