Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor

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**RiTides**

Yes, Christmas pics wanted... Very, very much

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

No it's very sad !

I suspect most of the folk who are involved enough in the forum/board scene to think it would be good to post photos were also those who ordered the hellsriders

the no-photos thing has come up on the red box games forums too.....

sigh

**judgedoug**

yeah, it's killing me. I just wanna see examples of anything that people have gotten!

**RiTides**

Well, a good lesson learned for next time- take photos of the sculpts before sending them to be cast!

**RiTides**

I asked Ed about pics for Tre's backers and here's what he said:

I will try sent Tre a huge package friday and not sure I have anything else atm. I'll see but did just send Adam at KD a sample and he said "amazing". He might have pictures on a blog somewhere.

I think he meant "I will try" (about pics) and then "Sent Tre a huge package", so he has nothing left.

In which case, maybe we'll get pics from Tre before the new year

**czakk**

He's posted a slightly longer explanation up on the KS which was nice of him.

Edward Fortae about 12 hours ago

I'm going to try and get some pictures for all of you this weekend. I just sent 2 big boxes his way and will send another next week but might be able to get some pics of masters at least in the morning. I'm doing the horses a bit slow as they are complex being one single piece with a modular rider. I am also waiting for a big yes or no to see when I can hire one more person here which will also speed up things but training is slow and I can't just throw anyone into Tre's stuff. I believe you will all be very happy even with the remolding etc. I had to drop back and change around 5 production molds at the last min. but it was so worth it. Happy holidays and Merry Christmas to you all.

**RiTides**

Nice update by Ed! Pics of the horses would be sweet. His hiring another person would also be amazing- not sure how Impact's chibi stuff will get done otherwise. Basically, good news!

**plastictrees**

I'm sure Ed has a few people knocking on his door that would make a new hire worthwhile. I know Adam Poots (Kingdom Death) has mentioned talking to Ed about using Trollcast instead of PVC. Tre has big plans as well I'm sure.

**RiTides**

Those, plus the I believe already-commited-to chibi models for Impact, and then Imbrian Arts sculpts, means I think he could keep 2 full-time employees busy pretty darn steadily! And hopefully free him up to sculpt (and then have them cast) his own large Kickstarter's worth of models

**czakk**

Update from Ed:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/131182444/assimilation-alien-host/posts/375725

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

And here's one of the Hel's Horses in all its glory.

I don't think I ordered enough

(note this is the master, not a cast)

**RiTides**

Even though it's the master, wow!

And does master mean "original sculpt" (which I would've though would be green?) or a master copy of it that Ed made, to make casts from?

**Bolognesus**

RiTides wrote:
Even though it's the master, wow!

And does master mean "original sculpt" (which I would've though would be green?) or a master copy of it that Ed made, to make casts from?

Generally a 'master' is the latter of those; I'd assume that's the case here, as well.
Tre sculpts in something fimo-like though, so his 'greens' are grey too. Not this shade though, I believe?

**czakk**

Tre has three new photos up as well:

http://www.facebook.com/RedBoxGames/photos_stream

**Da Boss**

I got my stuff just before Christmas. Aenglish, Zombies and the Keeper. They are fantastic, really detailed and oozing character without being overly busy. Really some of the best miniatures I've ever bought.

**judgedoug**

Please please please post photos.

**RiTides**

Da Boss wrote:
I got my stuff just before Christmas. Aenglish, Zombies and the Keeper. They are fantastic, really detailed and oozing character without being overly busy. Really some of the best miniatures I've ever bought.

He teases us...

**Da Boss**

I've got a nasty case of the winter vomiting bug at the moment, so I am not up to photography.

**RiTides**

TMI, Boss, TMI

Hope you get better soon!

**Da Boss**

Sharing is caring, RiTides!

**RiTides**

Just stay over there with your bug and we can "share" all you want

**Erasoketa**

Da Boss wrote:
Sharing is caring, RiTides!

Share some pics then!

**dodicula**

a few things I should point out to everybody talking about including these minis in 25mm games (warhammer...).

Tre's sculpts are tiny compared to most fantasy figs. Tre goes out of his way to hide this by using bases half the size of normal GW bases, and posting pictures that are larger than the actual sculpts.

In addition he has a very strict policy that he only issues returns in case of miscasts (even though he doesn't mention it anywhere on his site). And is not a nice guy at all when you are trying to get your money back after utter dissappointment with the product.

Not saying you shouldn't buy, just know what you are in for.

**plastictrees**

Warhammer is not a 25mm game by even the broadest scale categorization.
Everyone in this thread that enjoys Tres work is very familiar with the size of his models. Several side by sides have been posted.
Most of his models are shown on 20mm squares, which is pretty standard for most human sized races in WHFB. They scale perfectly with LOTR minis and with most historical lines that tend to be actual 25mm. They also match well with the later Confrontation metal releases.
My experience of Tres customer service has been excellent, my first order prior to his Kickstarter did not reach me and he asked me to pick essentially double my order in extra models to be packed with the re-shipped order to make up for it.

**RiTides**

Dodicula, I know they're small, but I don't think he tries to hide it. I'm well aware that if I want his stuff I need it ALL to be his... mostly why I haven't made the leap. But with his offering more units / ranks, it becomes more feasible.

I would like to see Tre address the refund issue; I would think he offers them but can't say personally.

**Bolognesus**

I have some trouble with the idea of Tre providng bad CS as well. The guy is basically an angel in that regard...

As for scale, meh. As stated above, the bases he uses are the standard size industry-wide at this scale; the slimmer proportions are something you could have picked up from the pictures. No, it's not GW's cartoon-scale; as plastictrees said, we're utterly grateful for that

OTOH there's been so much hassle about that now, so many times, that perhaps he should do as reaper does and post pictures with a ruler in them. Hey, it'd be good for everyone, actually (I know I was a bit disappointed with the Dreadball dwarves - too big!)

**Azazelx**

Bolognesus wrote:
I have some trouble with the idea of Tre providng bad CS as well. The guy is basically an angel in that regard...

As for scale, meh. As stated above, the bases he uses are the standard size industry-wide at this scale; the slimmer proportions are something you could have picked up from the pictures. No, it's not GW's cartoon-scale; as plastictrees said, we're utterly grateful for that

OTOH there's been so much hassle about that now, so many times, that perhaps he should do as reaper does and post pictures with a ruler in them. Hey, it'd be good for everyone, actually (I know I was a bit disappointed with the Dreadball dwarves - too big!)

Actually, most of Tre's figures do come on extra-tiny bases, and they do look bigger in the images on the website (as do Mantic's figures). I was aware that they were smaller before I ordered my first ones, but even with that in mind, they seemed smaller than I expected when I got them in hand. When I did the comparison on my blog with GW's LoTR I took a bunch of the pictures with the original RBG bases - when I paint them I'll be putting them onto regular GW-sized bases for gaming.
http://azazelx.wordpress.com/2011/08/20/red-box-games-size-comparisons-with-gw-lord-of-the-rings-figures/

**Bolognesus**

Huh? weird. I remember pictures with 20mm *square* bases - which is a standard. well, consider that retracted, then.

**RiTides**

scipio, the images further down the page seem to have RBG models that would not fit on the smaller-than-normal bases. I'm assuming these came with regular sized bases (either 20mm or 25mm) as you have them pictured on on the page?

The dwarfs seem to come on smaller size bases- but they seem to be the correct scale/size, anyway. Particularly with the LOTR models.

**Azazelx**

Sverreulf and Hvitarnor might not (I can't remember, I'll check at some stage when I find them) but Yvander and Edele do fit the smaller ones (and came with them). I think Edele is on one of the smaller ones in that pic.

The ones above those, Christia the Chaste, Astrid and Yrsa are again mounted on the smaller ones. When I was taking the pics, I wasn't too worried about the bases, I just wanted to show the figures' size by comparison at the time.