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What's a Black Warden?

It's not established in the fluff, yet.

However, Ulthwe does have the Black Guardians. Maybe the Black Warden is supposed to be an HQ Guardian where the Autarch is an HQ Aspect Warrior. Perhaps the Black Warden just enhances Guardians martially akin to a sergeant as opposed to the psychic Warlocks?

Could be some kind of Guardian of the Black Library.

gorgon wrote:Could be some kind of Guardian of the Black Library.

That's what I was thinking.

If the Solitaire thing is true, I could see that. Make Harlequin forces a thing again.

Solitaire would make a nice HQ version of the Harlequin allies force if this Summer of Allies really is a thing. I can't see the Deathjester or Shadowseer being anything more than a squad heavyweapon/sergeant.
Compatible as allies with anything that isn't Chaos or Necrons.

I want to believe, but.... something seems more than a little off.

I'll be happy to be wrong though!

Absolutionis wrote:Solitaire would make a nice HQ version of the Harlequin allies force if this Summer of Allies really is a thing. I can't see the Deathjester or Shadowseer being anything more than a squad heavyweapon/sergeant.

Not sure if serious, but a Solitaire is the worst choice to lead an army, being "solitaire", silent and damned. The Troupe Master is of course the fitting HQ.

Troupe Master works as an obvious IC that joins Harlequin squads.
Solitaire works as a non-IC character that cannot join squads.

After all, you must take an HQ and Troops in order to field allies.

H.B.M.C. wrote:What's a Black Warden?

they are the guardians of the black library

I sort of hope this is all true.... Then again I sort of hope not. Some of it seems perfect while others just seem.....idk.... strange, or off. Maybe its because I havent actually seen the models and just a simple description.

But if this is true, there will be so many models to buy. $$$$$$$

- Eldar Spirit Warrior (Plastic, large Land Raider sized Box) !

If this is like the old Spirit Warriors, being very like the Wraithlord, the size sounds a bit odd.

And, if that's in, where's the Ghost Warriors? :(
They could be the Everguard, though.

I'm hoping GW is just reusing the Spirit Warrior name to be the Eldar Knight (Dreadknight-size base and figure) that was rumored. Because otherwise, a Spirit Warrior used to be what a Wraithlord is now, just with a chance of Psychic Powers.

I personally would love me some giant Wraithlord.

Or some psychic Wraithlord, having the Wraithseer in the codex would be awesome.

Absolutionis wrote:Troupe Master works as an obvious IC that joins Harlequin squads.
Solitaire works as a non-IC character that cannot join squads.

That's probably a good guess.

I think moving Harlequins to an allies role is the best thing that could happen to them. It gets them out of this rut of having to have the same rules in the Eldar and Dark Eldar codices. As allies, you can update them whenever and however without affecting either codex.

I'm glad to see Eldar finally get some expansion of their units, fluff, concepts, etc. Been a long time coming. The Planetwister is undoubtedly the Warp Spider Phoenix Lord, right?

O

r some psychic Wraithlord, having the Wraithseer in the codex would be awesome.

That would be cool, I would love to see the actual Wraithseer (maybe in plastic!), and the Spirit Warrior be a great big Wraithlord, so in either case I'm happy.

Honestly I also wouldn't mind seeing the Warp Hunter moved out of FW hands and fully plastic-ized, and becoming part of the main ruleset. Cuz that's one yummy tank.

NO! Other than shipping costs to the US, the Warp hunter is cheaper to get from FW than it is to get the plastic Fire Prism tank it's based off of from GW..........

Same with the Wraithseer. A move to GW plastics would make them more available but with the added price jump.

AegisGrimm wrote:NO! Other than shipping costs to the US, the Warp hunter is cheaper to get from FW than it is to get the plastic Fire Prism tank it's based off of from GW..........

Same with the Wraithseer. A move to GW plastics would make them more available but with the added price jump.

It's still cheaper.
It's $56 for the Warp Hunter and $50 for the Fire Prism.
When you account for Forge World shipping, the Warp Hunter is about $63
When you account for the common 20%-off MSRP GW products, the Fire Prism is $40.

Having a Warp Hunter available for the price of a plastic Fire Prism would be great IMHO.

^^This^^ Well said Absolutionis. And let's face it a fully plastic Warp Hunter would be a total dream. Have you ever put together a FW Wave Serpent? Compaired to the all-plastic Wave Serpent the hybrid kit was such a hassle. That and no sending miscasts across the pond for replacements!

evilmonkee wrote:Also saw the release list for hte next year - a big Ork wave with the long awaited Buggies and Koptas as well as plastic Meganobz/Flashgitz!! Eldar as well with a whole plethora of stuff..but my source said expect those nxt year.

Scans of the WD September also confirm an Eldar Finecast wave including Maugham Ra, Karandras and Yriel.

Absolutionis wrote:

AegisGrimm wrote:NO! Other than shipping costs to the US, the Warp hunter is cheaper to get from FW than it is to get the plastic Fire Prism tank it's based off of from GW..........

Same with the Wraithseer. A move to GW plastics would make them more available but with the added price jump.

It's still cheaper.
It's $56 for the Warp Hunter and $50 for the Fire Prism.
When you account for Forge World shipping, the Warp Hunter is about $63
When you account for the common 20%-off MSRP GW products, the Fire Prism is $40.

Having a Warp Hunter available for the price of a plastic Fire Prism would be great IMHO.

I love these arguements - I'll post my straw man argument here:

But you can get the warp hunter parts from a chinese or russian recaster for about $10 [not able to post the link due to forum rules but you can do a google search and find one of them] and then you can find a better than 20% off [again do another google search] and now I'm looking at about $40 for the same kit and you just have to wait some 2-3 months for delivery but you can get them for nearly the same price.

The price is about $6 between the two when you compare apples to apples and thats not a bad deal. If you can get a large enough order, the shipping problem is a moot point too and thats all dependent on the x-rates.

I think they said the black warden is a 3rd option in a 3 part kit lamia strike fighter/moon siren bomber/black warden.

I think they said the black warden is a 3rd option in a 3 part kit lamia strike fighter/moon siren bomber/black warden.

Three options is nice but all I want is a Nightwing Interceptor that's not double the price of a Razorwing.

It's still cheaper.
It's $56 for the Warp Hunter and $50 for the Fire Prism.
When you account for Forge World shipping, the Warp Hunter is about $63
When you account for the common 20%-off MSRP GW products, the Fire Prism is $40.

Ahhhh....my mistake. I was using a Euro to US conversion, which give around 42 dollars. Not a GBP conversion which is 56. Looks like a Wraithseer is a conversion for me, then- which doesn;t look bad, considering I can use the D-cannon from a support weapon.

For those without Imperial Armour 11, how does a warp Hunter compare on the table to a Fire Prism? Not looking for stats, just function. Better.... worse? Looks to be a tank hunter with the D-cannon as a fixed forward firing weapon vs. a Fire Prism's turret?

schadenfreude wrote:I think they said the black warden is a 3rd option in a 3 part kit lamia strike fighter/moon siren bomber/black warden.

No, it's listed as an infantry sized character model.

AegisGrimm wrote:
For those without Imperial Armour 11, how does a warp Hunter compare on the table to a Fire Prism? Not looking for stats, just function. Better.... worse? Looks to be a tank hunter with the D-cannon as a fixed forward firing weapon vs. a Fire Prism's turret?

For such a high price I find using it as an artillery piece like the support weapon is a waste of points, so I use it as a flamer tank. I should say I still haven't tried it in 6th, though. If you do model it, keep in mind that the weapon is fixed and not turreted, the point is supposed to be located near the forward right wingtip. This fixed position is actually a fairly major drawback - but again, I've not played with jink saves.

Main things I'd like to see are new Shuriken Catapults(12" aint' doing it for me...), more competitive Banshees, and more Deep Strikable units.

We'll see!

Has anyone noticed that Wraithguard are in Finecast now? Pack of 5 for $60, dropping the price per model significantly. Doesn't this move make a plastic kit less likely?

 Gavin Thorne wrote:
Has anyone noticed that Wraithguard are in Finecast now? Pack of 5 for $60, dropping the price per model significantly. Doesn't this move make a plastic kit less likely?

Seeing how they are mono pose I would still say they are a prime target for getting new models. The Hive Tyrant got the fincast treatment just a few months before going plastic.

Hopefully they get plastic! I'd love to see these guys become a reasonable option. $120 + warlock per squad is a bit much for me...