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$140 for Aussies? I wish!
The current AOBR set is about $165 on the website, so I wouldnt be surprised if it was around that mark. Hell, I wouldnt be surprised if we had to shell out closer to $200 for a set with models are nice as that.

Yes i went to my flgs yesterday to put dibs on a box and i was suggesting to the owners wife (knows little about 40k and was manning shopfront) i would expect ~$200.
We will but wait and see.

Just like AOBR, the sets will be broken up and all over eBay for a song for the next 4 years. The minis will be at a premium for the next 2-3 months, while interest peaks, and then they'll just be "oh yeah, the DV models - I might pick up another (insert model here)."

The DA termies look as nice as the SH BA Termies, but not limited, so there's a huge plus.


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 spiraleddie wrote:
Yes i went to my flgs yesterday to put dibs on a box and i was suggesting to the owners wife (knows little about 40k and was manning shopfront) i would expect ~$200.
We will but wait and see.

If it comes to that, just buy the figures loose from eBay.

$105us is less than the Baneblade over there. So if that's somewhat accurate, $200au is a bit absurd, even for GW.

Regarding AoBRs current price, remember, it started a lot cheaper. I'd expect them to do the same again for high initial sales.

New box and new price increase on starters again?

Looks not bad, maybe if the DA had a decent codex for 5th I wouldn't have lost interest in them, kinda 4 years too late tbh. Plus looks like the chaos side is the weighted against side (surprise, surprise )

Oh and as GW stores are going on about vengeance etc just now, will they not be getting any stock for the next 6 weeks now?

 EYEofTERROR wrote:
I resent GW with a passion. They eat their young. I plan on buying this.

XD I dunno why but that just sounds hilarious to me for some reason.

 scarletsquig wrote:
The email is an odd mixture of threats and an announcement of forced unpaid overtime that is desperately trying to brand itself as "exciting".. if I worked for them I'd have been way less than amused by this.

Actually, forcing their minimum wage staff to paint up new products pronto in their free time, is standard procedure in GW stores.
They have named successors for half their store managers for a reason

 Fafnir wrote:
I'll admit that it's not my best work, but it'll do.

Now all he needs is the scumbag hat and he is good to go.

Yeyeyeyeyeyeyeye, trololololoooooooooool!

I was at my local GW today and the store manager walked up to me and my cousin while we were on my cousin's laptop looking at these very pics and he says to us "Guys, please, not in the store guys. C'mon, pleeease?" I realize they have their non disclosure agreements, and I'm sure that they are anti-piracy and what have you, but it's not like we were scrolling through a pdf codex scan or something. It was pictures on a website. And granted, the stuff isn't supposed to be released yet, but you would think that getting people to quit looking at images that make them want to spend money would be frowned upon. Tfg, jeez.


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Twenty minutes later he comes back over to us "So, are you guys in any other gaming leagues or anything? Where else do you play? What else do you play?"
Well, brosef, I play CHAOS SPACE MARINES.

The way you said that makes me wonder if those were the only pics you were reading...

 Squigsquasher wrote:
The way you said that makes me wonder if those were the only pics you were reading...

HAHAHA Read as written. But seriously, the way he was acting. Earlier in the day I had said something to another 'hobbyist' about starting a Necromunda gang when the cultists come out. This same store manager overheard and said "what cultists?" Dude, you are fooling no one.

 Sharkvictim wrote:
I was at my local GW today and the store manager walked up to me and my cousin while we were on my cousin's laptop looking at these very pics and he says to us "Guys, please, not in the store guys. C'mon, pleeease?" I realize they have their non disclosure agreements, and I'm sure that they are anti-piracy and what have you, but it's not like we were scrolling through a pdf codex scan or something. It was pictures on a website. And granted, the stuff isn't supposed to be released yet, but you would think that getting people to quit looking at images that make them want to spend money would be frowned upon. Tfg, jeez.

Always funny to watch a slave getting scared of punishment by his severe master

 Kroothawk wrote:

 Sharkvictim wrote:
I was at my local GW today and the store manager walked up to me and my cousin while we were on my cousin's laptop looking at these very pics and he says to us "Guys, please, not in the store guys. C'mon, pleeease?" I realize they have their non disclosure agreements, and I'm sure that they are anti-piracy and what have you, but it's not like we were scrolling through a pdf codex scan or something. It was pictures on a website. And granted, the stuff isn't supposed to be released yet, but you would think that getting people to quit looking at images that make them want to spend money would be frowned upon. Tfg, jeez.

Always funny to watch a slave getting scared of punishment by his severe master

Kinky.

Woa woa woa, I am reading the discussion about the chaos over at warseer. People are saying the rules for the cultists and hellbrute would not be allowed in normal games. Is this true just because they would be rules from a starter set? Best not be, if someone says I cant use the cultists, I will shove the stat sheet in their face and tell them to deal with it.

The only reason they would say that is that the rules are not part of the current chaos codex - this should be rectified (hopefully) by September.

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Woa woa woa, I am reading the discussion about the chaos over at warseer. People are saying the rules for the cultists and hellbrute would not be allowed in normal games. Is this true just because they would be rules from a starter set? Best not be, if someone says I cant use the cultists, I will shove the stat sheet in their face and tell them to deal with it.

Well, as you can see we are all in touch with GW directly and have a firm grasp of these unreleased models' rules.

Plus, if I was "told to deal with it" and had some paper waved in my face, regardless of circumstance, you best be believing we wouldn't be having a game. Not exactly the most endearing behaviour.

The words "secret" and "disclosure" are used four times... each

What the heck happend to this company? It's become the People's Republik of Games Workshop. Their slogan: Games Workshop is Best Workshop!

I like the Chaos Chosen. Especially the champion. I think he'd make a nice Dark Apostle. Not fond of the cultists however. I was hoping for the Dawn of War look.

Technically the Hellbrute and Cultists would not quite be legal in most lists as there is no entry for them in their relevant codex, that being said bubber got it right by saying we should have a new codex for them sometime in september. You can use them for battles using only models from the starter set. I would spend the time waiting for the new codex getting those models ready for the table, make them all nice and purdy.

hell brute stats

Str 6, WS 4, BS4, I4 Has rampage
Multi-Melta / Power Fist (with inbuilt combi-bolter)
can swap the Multi-Melta for a butcher-cannon, or twin reaper auto cannons (which is pretty cool, since that's an entire riflemen in one arm, but with less range), twin-linked lascannon or a twin-linked heavy flamer.


can swap combi-bolter for a meltagun or heavy flamer

Mark of Khorne: Rage USR
Mark of Nurgle: 5+ restore a hull point OR repair immobilized / weapon destroyed at the start of a turn. Does not let it get back up after having been killed unlike Unholy Vigor.
Mark of Slaanesh: Sonic scream, gives it offensive/defensive grenades
Mark of Tzeench: flame weapons (if it has any) are +1 strength and -1 AP (so S6 AP3)

If they came with a chapter approved stamp or an update to the current CSM codex like the Chaos Daemons update, would they really be disallowed?

At that point i'd IMAGINE they'd be A O K to be used in games and whatnot.

 Plokoone wrote:
The words "secret" and "disclosure" are used four times... each

What the heck happend to this company? It's become the People's Republik of Games Workshop. Their slogan: Games Workshop is Best Workshop!

I like the Chaos Chosen. Especially the champion. I think he'd make a nice Dark Apostle. Not fond of the cultists however. I was hoping for the Dawn of War look.

To be fair, if they did look like that, who could resist squealing "WE KAPTOORED EET FOR KAYHOSS!!!" every time the unit captured an objective?

 Squigsquasher wrote:

 Plokoone wrote:
The words "secret" and "disclosure" are used four times... each

What the heck happend to this company? It's become the People's Republik of Games Workshop. Their slogan: Games Workshop is Best Workshop!

I like the Chaos Chosen. Especially the champion. I think he'd make a nice Dark Apostle. Not fond of the cultists however. I was hoping for the Dawn of War look.

To be fair, if they did look like that, who could resist squealing "WE KAPTOORED EET FOR KAYHOSS!!!" every time the unit captured an objective?

And then shouted at the top of their lungs, "In SOVIET WERKSHOP, OBJEKTIVE KAPTURES UUUUUUUuuuuuu!!!!!"

I was referring to their Dawn of War II look but thanks very much for the nostalgia

I'd forgotten about the original S&M Smeagol from the first games...

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Woa woa woa, I am reading the discussion about the chaos over at warseer. People are saying the rules for the cultists and hellbrute would not be allowed in normal games. Is this true just because they would be rules from a starter set? Best not be, if someone says I cant use the cultists, I will shove the stat sheet in their face and tell them to deal with it.

Yeah that's not what they're saying. They're saying until the new codex is released technically you can't use the hell brute and cultists because they're not in the current codex, which is true. Unless there are rules for them in white dwarf, or the rules are in the starter with instructions on using them in the current codex, then they can't legally be fielded. Until the next codex which they will obviously be in.

 WarOne wrote:
If they came with a chapter approved stamp or an update to the current CSM codex like the Chaos Daemons update, would they really be disallowed?

So long as the booklet with the starter set has point values then you would be good to go.

Either way, the Hellbrute could still count as a Dreadnought, and Cultists for an IG traitor army.

Oh yeah, in the mean time you can use them as those, they just won't "officially" be a hellbrute or cultists until we get the actual codex entry

 CrashCanuck wrote:
Oh yeah, in the mean time you can use them as those, they just won't "officially" be a hellbrute or cultists until we get the actual codex entry

They are some really good models and I'd hate for them to go to waste, especially to all those DA players who don't want their Chaos minions tagging along.

So mail them to me please.

Ohwell, if worse comes to worse, stat sheets shall be wafted in faces

edit: BTW, the cultist champion with the shotgun, is he wearing a mask, looks a little bit like the samurai face mask, or is it just really red skin? Also love those 2 cultists with the hooded robes and helmet, so badass.