Daemons of Chaos Rumours (Fantasy & 40k) - First post updated with release list, prices, and pics!

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**Sidstyler**

Xeriapt wrote:
Im kinda expecting some form of Tzeentch seeding machine and Nurgle fertiliser to pop up lol.

Don't joke, the next big release might be a poop-flinging daemon engine for Nurgle. And maybe some daemonettes riding giant flying boobs with smaller boobs on them.

**ergotoxin**

Sidstyler wrote:
And maybe some daemonettes riding giant flying boobs with smaller boobs on them.

Not gonna happen with current kid-friendly GW direction of Slaanesh.

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Anyway, for me this is somehow disappointing release by GW (again). The flies are just silly, they could be a good conversion material for Blight Drones though. The Tzeentch Chariot is pretty nice though, I can see cannibalizing that kit for cool models. I mean, 2 screamers, 1 flamer, bunch of horrors and a herald in one kit, along with a very neat Disc? Not bad.

**Matt.Kingsley**

I'm really hoping the DaemonPrince stats on the website are wrong, I'll be deeply saddened if they are weaker than the CSM varient..

And I wonder how powerful the Greater Daemons will be... PKelly did say in WD they'd have stats a DP would dream for... though if DP's are weaker than that isn't saying much...

And if be 'Assault by turn two' he means that the KoS can move 12', or assault the turn it deepstrikes, then

**Puscifer**

I think GW need to fire their photographer.

After seeing the models close up, I can say that they are actually quite good. The flys in particular are great.

Shame I've started Guard otherwise I'd definitely collect Daemons.

**tarnish**

Puscifer wrote:

Shame I've started Guard otherwise I'd definitely collect Daemons.

There´s always allies mate

As for the new daemon prince stats i laughed... T4 ? They might as well sneeze at him and hope for a wound.

**Agamemnon2**

Daemon princes are T4? That's got to be one of the worst demotions a model has ever had in terms of battlefield effectiveness.

**Xeriapt**

tarnish wrote:
Puscifer wrote:

Shame I've started Guard otherwise I'd definitely collect Daemons.

There´s always allies mate

As for the new daemon prince stats i laughed... T4 ? They might as well sneeze at him and hope for a wound.

Im expecting T4 to be a mistake on the website.

Either that or they will come out with a new prince kit that comes on a 40mm base which make the 60mm base ones obsolete lol.

**Kroothawk**

Sidstyler wrote:
Don't joke, the next big release might be a poop-flinging daemon engine for Nurgle. And maybe some daemonettes riding giant flying boobs with smaller boobs on them.

Paint the trunk flies in skin colours and the daemonettes fit just fine

**SlyasR**

Isnt there usually a lot of rule leaks by now?

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Xeriapt wrote:
tarnish wrote:
Puscifer wrote:

Shame I've started Guard otherwise I'd definitely collect Daemons.

There´s always allies mate

As for the new daemon prince stats i laughed... T4 ? They might as well sneeze at him and hope for a wound.

Im expecting T4 to be a mistake on the website.

Either that or they will come out with a new prince kit that comes on a 40mm base which make the 60mm base ones obsolete lol.

Or they might be T4 base at a lower cost,

but able to pay for extra 'stuff' that boost them back to where they started so you can custom the role better

**Sasori**

SlyasR wrote:
Isnt there usually a lot of rule leaks by now?

Yeah.

This release has been kept a lot tighter than normal. We got pictures a lot later, and have had nothing but snippets of rules so far.

**Vetric**

Sasori wrote:
SlyasR wrote:
Isnt there usually a lot of rule leaks by now?

Yeah.

This release has been kept a lot tighter than normal. We got pictures a lot later, and have had nothing but snippets of rules so far.

I'm surprised the errata isn't posted already. They've been coming out at record speed. (Not just a FAQ, but stuff they knew they goofed on)

**Sasori**

Vetric wrote:
Sasori wrote:
SlyasR wrote:
Isnt there usually a lot of rule leaks by now?

Yeah.

This release has been kept a lot tighter than normal. We got pictures a lot later, and have had nothing but snippets of rules so far.

I'm surprised the errata isn't posted already. They've been coming out at record speed. (Not just a FAQ, but stuff they knew they goofed on)

They're not going to post an errata before the book is released.

**Vetric**

Sasori wrote:
Vetric wrote:
Sasori wrote:
SlyasR wrote:
Isnt there usually a lot of rule leaks by now?

Yeah.

This release has been kept a lot tighter than normal. We got pictures a lot later, and have had nothing but snippets of rules so far.

I'm surprised the errata isn't posted already. They've been coming out at record speed. (Not just a FAQ, but stuff they knew they goofed on)

They're not going to post an errata before the book is released.

I know

But they got it down to what, 3 days for DA? Chaos Marines was quick, Death from the Skies had one almost immediatly. Tbh, I really hope the new codex is error free, but I'm not that optimistic given recent trends.

**SoloFalcon1138**

Sasori wrote:
SlyasR wrote:
Isnt there usually a lot of rule leaks by now?

Yeah.

This release has been kept a lot tighter than normal. We got pictures a lot later, and have had nothing but snippets of rules so far.

Sooooo, does this mean GW is doing its job? Yes it does.

**Sasori**

Didn't see this posted in this thread, so sorry if it's a repeat.

It's from BOLS, which I think was taken from Naftka?
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2013/02/faeits-40k-rumor-tarot-daemons-and.html

Chaos Daemons
Its no longer rumors that the Chaos Daemons are here, and will be available a week from now. In the meantime we are scraping through the latest White Dwarf for bits of pieces of how the new rules will play out when the codex hits. One of the best bits of information gleaned from the Battle report and pictures of March's White Dwarf are below.

These come from TastyTaste on Blood of Kittens
*Deamons of special rules are the same as the ones found on the Deamon Princes in Chaos Space Marine codex
*Burning Chariot of Tzeentch has Torrent AP3 Flamers along with second mode with high strength for vehicle killing.
*The Skull Cannon of Khorne is Large Blast S8 AP4 or 36" range
*Standard Deployment is back for Deamons along with normal Deep Strike
*Plague Drones have upgrades to get 3+ along with at least Strength 4
*Daemonic Rewards random chart three tiers (50 pts to roll)
*Herald Loci buffing powers for same god units (Icons of Deamons)
*Psychic Powers
*All Heralds (minus Khorne) can be psykers and you still can take two for one per HQ
*Warp Storm random (2d6) powers that effect Deamons every turn of the game.
*Tzeentch Gets Divination (HUGE)!
*Soul Grinder has Skyfire

Soul Grinders with Skyfire is going to push many armies to start fielding these models (still one of my favorites), so I look forward to this one being true. Otherwise we are looking at quite a few random charts, from daemonic rewards to Warp Storm powers. The last most drastic new change is moving Chaos Daemons to a more standard deployment, while still allowing normal deepstriking.

Other things we are expecting, but are still more rumor than fact, are that daemons are going to be losing eternal warrior and fearless. That Daemon Princes are moving to a Headquarters choice, and of course there is a wild variety of speculation.

Huge changes are underway and I am sure that next week will be very interesting as little bits of the rules start to emerge.

**Swara**

I find it interesting that they proxy forgeworld plague toads on 60mm bases for the 40mm beasts of nurgle. Not that they don't look a lot better. I'll probably end up doing the same thing as the plague toads are cheaper than the beasts..

**40k-noob**

Swara wrote:
I find it interesting that they proxy forgeworld plague toads on 60mm bases for the 40mm beasts of nurgle. Not that they don't look a lot better. I'll probably end up doing the same thing as the plague toads are cheaper than the beasts..

I noticed that too.

I hope they release a new sculpt for the Beast, the current is just silly, it looks like some one took the original sculpt and threw in the microwave for a minute or two.

**Swara**

40k-noob wrote:
Swara wrote:
I find it interesting that they proxy forgeworld plague toads on 60mm bases for the 40mm beasts of nurgle. Not that they don't look a lot better. I'll probably end up doing the same thing as the plague toads are cheaper than the beasts..

I noticed that too.

I hope they release a new sculpt for the Beast, the current is just silly, it looks like some one took the original sculpt and threw in the microwave for a minute or two.

I don't mind the old sculpt, but I don't want to pay 25 bucks a pop for them..

**labmouse42**

Swara wrote:
I don't mind the old sculpt, but I don't want to pay 25 bucks a pop for them..

Strong arguement to go to a craft store, get some clay and make your own darn nurgle beasts.

They might not look nearly as good as the new sculpts, but at 25 bucks a pop......yea....
Ill find a way to make mine for a heck of a lot cheaper.

**timetowaste85**

Shrug, I use spawn with fly heads and tentacle bitz to make my spawn. They definitely work.

**Panic**

yeah,

His Master's Voice wrote:

Sold!

Panic...

**buckero0**

Panic wrote:
yeah,
His Master's Voice wrote:
Sold!
..

Is this just the model without the rider or did he do something to the face? I don't see the hose-nose hanging out

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

It's photoshop or similar, he's used the saddle/wings/legs of the fly and 'invented' the blob of phlem body

(which he probably plans to convert using the fly abdomen as a base)

a nice bit of work

**Nasakenai**

I'll take a rain check on this release. The Plague Drones look awkward and shaped wrong (although maybe someday I'll use some parts for conversions), the Khorne Chariot thing has got to be one of the worst models I've seen in ages, nothing else is really up there in terms of excitement. I'm gonna hope the next release is more akin to Dark Eldar or Space wolves than this or Chaos.

**timetowaste85**

Took a look at the releases on my computer (finally! had to use the phone for a while) and all it did was reconfirm my earlier opinions:
-Herald of Khorne: Like it. With a lower cost than initially shown, and being able to get it 25% off, I'll get one

-Herald of Slaanesh: Body good, face terrible. The smashed in, rugby style nose doesn't do it for me. It ruins the whole face-looks like my male, 36 year old cousin's face on a daemonette's body. Hurl. Might buy it, if a head swap is easily done

Tzeentch Chariot: Awesome. Truly a work of art. I'll take 2

Herald of Nurgle: God, that's disgusting. I love it. I don't like the price tag for plastic. I'll convert my own, or get an AoW for 5 bucks less, before discount.

Plague flies: Pass

And the cream of the crop...saved for last...THE KHORNE THRONE!!!!! Verdict?

My Chaos chariots are going to enjoy mixing it up with Bloodcrushers to create this baby on my own.

**Swara**

Not sure if anyone has posted this, forgive me if it has come up but I haven't seen it here. This is a screen grab of the video on the WD that shows some of the chart from the Daemonic gifts from I think fantasy?

**lucasbuffalo**

What?! A chart with good results, where you can actually choose a default good option instead of a huge chance of losing the model for something totally different?
Must be fake.

**Cryptek of Awesome**

Swara wrote:
Not sure if anyone has posted this, forgive me if it has come up but I haven't seen it here. This is a screen grab of the video on the WD that shows some of the chart from the Daemonic gifts from I think fantasy?

Spoiler:

Ahhhh random tables - GW's answer to actually balancing points costs and item abilities.

**Swara**

Cryptek of Awesome wrote:
Swara wrote:
Not sure if anyone has posted this, forgive me if it has come up but I haven't seen it here. This is a screen grab of the video on the WD that shows some of the chart from the Daemonic gifts from I think fantasy?

Spoiler:

Ahhhh random tables - GW's answer to actually balancing points costs and item abilities.

At least if you don't like your roll you can choose "0". But yeah.. still random tables.