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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/29 20:56:28
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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how to recapture so much in so little time....  ... yep... that sums it up pretty inadequately enough
the ladder... you really went the full length with this... and the flowers and the bottles are probably the icing of the already delicious cake...amazing... truly amazing...
as for the colors of wood... it is a bit difficult to answer that one ... seeing them all next to each other... i favor nr5... but i agree grey would look probably best...
what i would do... i would prime it all white or grey... and then i would open the bottle of your brown wash and start painting it all in one go... then... i would start with odd boards here and there again with the same wash... and then some of those again... thus you have a matching hue but in different intesities... figuring it is always the same wood but some boards are more ancient than others...?
great work doc!...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/29 21:09:08
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Fixture of Dakka
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What are your plans for this extra time we've got, bud? I'm not sure if I'm going to keep to my schedule then put it aside and work on C&R's competition or mix my time up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/29 21:15:49
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Viktor von Domm wrote:how to recapture so much in so little time....  ... yep... that sums it up pretty inadequately enough
the ladder... you really went the full length with this... and the flowers and the bottles are probably the icing of the already delicious cake...amazing... truly amazing...
Thanks Vik. I'm glad that it all comes across so well.
as for the colors of wood... it is a bit difficult to answer that one ... seeing them all next to each other... i favor nr5... but i agree grey would look probably best...
what i would do... i would prime it all white or grey... and then i would open the bottle of your brown wash and start painting it all in one go... then... i would start with odd boards here and there again with the same wash... and then some of those again... thus you have a matching hue but in different intesities... figuring it is always the same wood but some boards are more ancient than others...?
great work doc!...
Yeah, it's not going to have as much variation to neighbouring boards as that piece. It might serve better if I did the whole side one colour and then test the weathering... in fact I might do that for just that reason...  I was just too impatient to try all the variations...
I keep looking at pictures of wood and trying to think of how to get the right colours... Really look closely at a piece of grey wood, the amount of not grey in it boggles the mind...
That sounds like a good plan. The water damage and rust streaks etc... will definitely be done with washes. But varying the boards like that is a good idea.
After all this wood, I've then got to go through the whole process with the rusty metal...So many variations there as well...
At least I'm happy with how to do the muddy and rocky base  I'll leave that 'til last.
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The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/29 21:19:38
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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well.... whatever you do... it will be a feast for our eyes
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/29 21:21:15
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Casey's Law wrote:What are your plans for this extra time we've got, bud? I'm not sure if I'm going to keep to my schedule then put it aside and work on C&R's competition or mix my time up.
I'm currently thinking that I may still get it done for the original deadline, as I've started painting earlier than I planned. However, the extra time does take the pressure off, so I may use it to tinker with anything I may not be happy with...or add some other furniture-like things...
I very much like to do one job at a time, get that finished and then move on...that's just how I work. Automatically Appended Next Post:
I hope so.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/07/29 21:22:32
Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/29 22:13:39
Subject: Re:The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Been absent for a while and just seen what You can do with Sprue and patience and skills of course.
I'm amazed, truly
If I'm not late I think that 4 and 5 are perfect as colors choices, they are similar to the sprue color and is a nice thing to not change the original color after all the effort You put on It.
Keep up this amazing build and (when everything is finished) fill the tutorials section with all this awesome stuff please
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/29 23:16:58
Subject: Re:The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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SelvaggioSaky wrote:Been absent for a while and just seen what You can do with Sprue and patience and skills of course.
I'm amazed, truly
If I'm not late I think that 4 and 5 are perfect as colors choices, they are similar to the sprue color and is a nice thing to not change the original color after all the effort You put on It.
Keep up this amazing build and (when everything is finished) fill the tutorials section with all this awesome stuff please
Thanks SS.
Not too late at all. I'm still throwing colour concepts about at the mo.
and on that note...more colour concepts
As before, from left to right:
1. Darker yellow/brown wood;
Over the base colour the following were dry-brushed;
63(Sand ~ Iyanden Darksun)
72(Khaki Drill ~ Desert Yellow)
Wash with 33(Black = Chaos Black)
2. A green-ish wood...
Over the base colour the following were dry-brushed;
155(Olive Drab ~ Snakebite Leather)
72(Khaki Drill ~ Desert Yellow)
71(Satin Oak ~ Bleached Bone)
Wash with 33(Black = Chaos Black)
3. Grey, bleached wood, the slightly lighter version.
Over the base colour the following were dry-brushed;
64(Light Grey ~ fortress Grey)
34(White = Skull White)
Wash with 33(Black = Chaos Black)
4. "trying to tone down the yellow", yellow wood.
Over the base colour the following were dry-brushed;
63(Sand ~ Iyanden Darksun)
71(Satin Oak ~ Bleached Bone)
72(Khaki Drill ~ Desert Yellow)
Wash with 33(Black = Chaos Black)
5. "making use of an off colour paint I found in my box" wood colour.
Over the base colour the following were dry-brushed;
72(Khaki Drill ~ Desert Yellow)
40(Pale Grey? Very old and brown-ish rather than the grey it's supposed to be ~ Commando Khaki)
34(White = Skull White)
Wash with 33(Black = Chaos Black)
I'll give some weathering a go tomorrow and see if I can't produce some kind of realistic looking wood...
Even used some spare planks to make a test piece that represents the wood of the hut
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Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/29 23:28:38
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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with the exception of nr4 i cant really see that many differencies here... so... i think if you stick to these other four types and mix them all around the hut i think you have a good formula
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/29 23:32:52
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Don't be afraid of venturing into Model Railroad sites/magazines/books either
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/29 23:34:24
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Viktor von Domm wrote:with the exception of nr4 i cant really see that many differencies here... so... i think if you stick to these other four types and mix them all around the hut i think you have a good formula
Cool. Yeah I was going for more subtle colours that the previous test and thinking (at least subconsciously) about neighbouring planks.
Will see how some of these look on larger areas and with some weathering tomorrow. Automatically Appended Next Post: dsteingass wrote:Don't be afraid of venturing into Model Railroad sites/magazines/books either
Actually hadn't thought about that  There's bound to be some good tips in those for wood...
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Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
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Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 01:01:54
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Dr H wrote: Casey's Law wrote:What are your plans for this extra time we've got, bud? I'm not sure if I'm going to keep to my schedule then put it aside and work on C&R's competition or mix my time up.
I'm currently thinking that I may still get it done for the original deadline, as I've started painting earlier than I planned. However, the extra time does take the pressure off, so I may use it to tinker with anything I may not be happy with...or add some other furniture-like things...
I very much like to do one job at a time, get that finished and then move on...that's just how I work.
Good shout, I'm leaning towards doing that myself but I think I might take a day off to rough out my other entry to get the juices flowing so to speak.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 09:34:06
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Yellin' Yoof
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Love the woods. Going to try these out for myself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 21:00:18
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Go for it Casey.
Good good. There's more to come...
Tried a larger piece with just the one colour this time. Much easier to work on  , Much slower to do  .
This is the bleached wood that will largely be the outside of the hut...
These were done by following (sort of) a tutorial I found online.
This was based with white on the left side and the right two planks were based with the "bleached bone"-alike. This was to see what sort of difference these would make.
However the next step completely knocked that on the head... a wash with black. The wash was too black and the planks ended up black, rather than grey. However this was partially saved by the next step of scrubbing the planks with a wet brush (white spirit in my case, you'll want to use water) in some places more than others to give a variation to the tone.
The planks were then dry-brushed with grey and then white, again concentrating on certain areas over others.
The final step was adding a few drops of the black wash to the upper end of the planks and then a little more white spirit was used to blend this into the plank's underlying colour.
And in more exciting news: I decided to paint the bench as I found the colours I wanted for it in the first test.
The seat was done as per the red-ish wood previously described (minus the light "pink" dry-brush) but with the added spots of black wash.
The legs were done as with the chocolate brown wood and added black wash to the lower ends.
The whole bench was given a few patches of gently white dry-brushing which were mostly rubbed off with my finger.
Also, I added some small black dots/lines to indicate the positions of the nails attaching the planks to the legs.
It's supposed to look like damp has got to it as it is sitting on the muddy floor for most of the time.
I'm quite happy with it really.
Still got to do the weathering tests. Will update when I do...
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Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 21:04:29
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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truly lovly looking boards... the bleached looks
and the bench looks like it is straight of some garden attire catalogue^^
now i even saw some knotholes!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 21:20:55
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Viktor von Domm wrote:truly lovly looking boards... the bleached looks
and the bench looks like it is straight of some garden attire catalogue^^
now i even saw some knotholes!!!
Cool. Glad you like.
Is that "Cheap, Water damaged, Wonky, Wooden Furniture World's" catalogue
I know what you mean really. Thanks. I hope that I can make the rest of the wood look as realistic...
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Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 21:23:45
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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hope that I can make the rest of the wood look as realistic...
i think now is a good time to raise your self esteem...  you are doing a great show here!!!
and wonky wooden furniture world  
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 21:48:54
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Thanks Dude.
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Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 21:52:08
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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That looks real, well done Doc!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 21:52:21
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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 ...no need for that!! now back to painting... or feel the flat side of me sword!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 21:58:42
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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SelvaggioSaky wrote:That looks real, well done Doc!
Thanks SS. That's the aim.
Viktor von Domm wrote: ...no need for that!! now back to painting... or feel the flat side of me sword!!!
Ooo, kinky...
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Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 22:14:16
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 22:46:57
Subject: Re:The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Thanks Panda.
I've done a bit of weathering to the bleached piece.
The top is meant to look like it doesn't get as much sun from being under the eaves of the roof.
How does that grab you?
and for those interested, these are the paints used for this wood.
I still need to make some lighter shade of wood, this is still too dark for my liking... More tests tomorrow.
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The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 22:53:03
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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holy sh...t
next to these paints your wood looks considerably small
and... you use revell colors i see?
and i like that non sunbleached kinda non weathering-weathering!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 22:57:39
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Yeah, that piece is just over 2cm wide. Each plank is between 3 and 5mm wide.
and... you use revell colors i see?
They're Humbrol actually
Although I do have a few Revell's, I prefer Humbrol Enamels.
and i like that non sunbleached kinda non weathering-weathering!!! 
Thanks. That is exactly what it is.
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The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 23:01:01
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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They're Humbrol actually
Although I do have a few Revell's, I prefer Humbrol Enamels.
are they the same amount as the revell ones?
also... Enamels... do these require thinner to clean the brushes?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 23:06:10
Subject: The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Viktor von Domm wrote:They're Humbrol actually
Although I do have a few Revell's, I prefer Humbrol Enamels.
are they the same amount as the revell ones?
also... Enamels... do these require thinner to clean the brushes?
Yeah, 14ml. and they cost about the same, and come in pretty much the same colours (although with different names and numbers), but I've just had better luck and results with the Humbrol's.
Ja, it's all white spirit here...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 23:12:59
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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This project just keeps getting better and better. Can't wait to see the completion of your work. In time I will be using this technique on my bloodbowl pitch for sidelines and player benches, possibly the grandstands.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 23:20:45
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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Ja, it's all white spirit here...
well then...cheers *burp*
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Subject: Re:The (Mad) Scientist and his Army of the Second Law: Beware of the Splinters!
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Theophony wrote:This project just keeps getting better and better. Can't wait to see the completion of your work. In time I will be using this technique on my bloodbowl pitch for sidelines and player benches, possibly the grandstands.
Thanks Theo.
That sounds cool. I would suggest lots and lots of research pictures and really look closely at the wood, there's so many colours in just plain wood.
Viktor von Domm wrote:Ja, it's all white spirit here...
well then...cheers *burp*
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 23:36:41
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Dr H wrote:Theophony wrote:This project just keeps getting better and better. Can't wait to see the completion of your work. In time I will be using this technique on my bloodbowl pitch for sidelines and player benches, possibly the grandstands.
Thanks Theo.
That sounds cool. I would suggest lots and lots of research pictures and really look closely at the wood, there's so many colours in just plain wood.
Mine would be more bloodstained, after all the pitch might be where the game is at, but the stands is where the brawling occurs.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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