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Hi,

Conducting a research survey to try and determine the thoughts on wargamers by their own community, please be honest with your response to the poll!


Will

Intelligent.



By reading the "Timmy the Power Gamer" posts on any discussion board, one would be led to believe every wargamer is some kind of serpentine lawyer, with the way they weave rules atound and behind each other. In actuality, if more people played like that, they'd get slapped.

Wargaming requires a lot of forethought, like chess. Moves are not one-dimensional, they have effects for a while. A poor move or placement could keep your heavy weapons from being used properly, or place a tank right in front of your opponent's heavies.

There is a split for sure, I have met quite a few socially inept gamers as well as had communication online with some which to be fair you get there everwhere on the internet whether its online games wargaming forums or sports forums car forums etc.

I feel this post may be a dig at me in which case I applaud it and encourage the OP to continue to vent his feelings at a random person on the internet, let the anger out buddy.

We are princes amongst men as far as I'm concerned.

As I've said before, some people like to drink, do drugs, play warhammer, go to football matches etc

Me, I like to do all those things

I put mentally challenged. After all, most wargamers still play 40k or Fantasy.

Well I put Intelligent.

Not sure of the purpose of the study, but I think if you used that list for any demographic group and asked said demographic to vote, "intelligent" would normally come out on top.

Fantasy and 40k really aren't bad games. They're great fun with great miniatures. It is expensive, but who cares? No one started wargaming because it was cheap.

I put mentally challenged as well. Most people probably couldn't be bothered to read a 300+ page book on pushing miniatures around a table for two hours, yet it's what we do on the weekends. Plus paint toy soldiers despite a lot of us being adults.

Flashman, you mentioned in an earlier thread that you were prepared to open the plastic sleeves on magazines, just so you can get a preview of WD.

In other words, you, like Nelson Mandela, are prepared to go to jail for your beliefs

Brave should be on that poll, because that's what we are, brave men ready to risk shame and ridicule from the public just for being nerds, brave men who will let nothing stop us (not even magazine sleeves) from getting what we want. Spartaaaaa!!!!

Oh come on, Its a war gaming website, of course the answer is going to be positive, it takes a strong man to admit to a hard truth.

I vote socially challenged, because lets be honest, loads are.

Look at my needless ban from the OT.. I hardly think I'm a particularly aggressive/uncouth individual and clearly 75% of the community don't think so either, but we must cater to the 25% of endlessly butthurt crybabies that are grown men who frequent this website who cant take normal adult disagreement.

Who was it last week that I calmly put a point across to, and then he said he was ignoring me FOREVER and then proceeded to tell everyone "Matty threw a hissy fit" despite the fact everything we wrote was right there in black and white anyway?!

I honestly think that a larger percentage of wargamers are socially awkward, I'm a really sociable person and In most situations, say I meet some blokes for the first time, I get along well with 99 out of 100 of them.

Here, its like a 25% chance they are going to spit their dummy out at the first opportunity and sob like a girl because words burn them like the fires of a thousand suns.


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Oh yeah, and unhygienic as well, they were really big on hygiene in the corps, made us shower three times a day, and always referred to Army soldiers as "pongos" working off the stereotype that they never wash. So to be fair I suppose that many civilians are pretty bad in general and not just wargamers.

Matty, when did you get banned from OT and for how long? That's a shame. I'll be the first to admit that 90% of the stuff you post is a load of balls but that's no reason for a ban. And you're right, people can be oversensitive at times, but it's not our website.

There's a reason why you marines enjoyed showers three times a day, but this is a family website so I'll say no more plus you would only hunt me down Liam Neeson style!

Back OT I voted for Intelligent as that what we are. An earlier poster had it right about reading 300+ page rulebooks.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

There's a reason why you marines enjoyed showers three times a day, but this is a family website so I'll say no more plus you would only hunt me down Liam Neeson style!

Back OT I voted for Intelligent as that what we are. An earlier poster had it right about reading 300+ page rulebooks.

Haha.. no need to say, I can guess your retort.

I haven't been able to post in OT for ages now..

I don't disagree with intelligent I suppose, I find that a staggering amount of people don't actually read any books at all, so no doubt we as a whole read more than the general populous, no doubt that adds several points to the overall IQ.

But it doesn't mean we aren't more socially awkward either...

Maybe we should be voting "all of the above"

As the average IQ of my group is 132,I voted intellegent.

And as these are the gamers I interact with the most ,its what I base my reponce on.

The majority of wargamers are smart people, but there's always differences in the player base.

For example, xbox live would have you believe all halo players are 13 year old gay fearing gakkers.

That's just a majority of the vocal players, and doesn't take into account the others.

Wargaming is a hobby that weeds out certain people and keeps others, but like anything else has it's problem people.

So do everyone a favor and stop allying nercons and/or GK with everything kids.

Im not sure Intelligent is the right word, Maybe "Different Minded"
Maybe our throught processes are different, able to think abstractly and differently.

 IdentifyZero wrote:
Hi,

Conducting a research survey to try and determine the thoughts on wargamers by their own community, please be honest with your response to the poll!


Will

Chain and cig too strong bro


Majority of these kids tend to be socially awkward

I'd say for the most part intelligent. Although some intelligent people, may act as if they're stupid at times.
And there appears to be some really good actors on dakka.

From what I see on Dakka:
Arguementative
From what I see at my FLGS:
All of the Above

My sister is intelligent, far more then me, graduated top of her class in HS and got a full scholoship.
She cant even comprehend my hobbies.

Varied is the true answer.

 mattyrm wrote:
Who was it last week that I calmly put a point across to, and then he said he was ignoring me FOREVER and then proceeded to tell everyone "Matty threw a hissy fit" despite the fact everything we wrote was right there in black and white anyway?!

No idea but it looks like you're throwing another hissy fit.

Well, given that we can only choose one, I chose Intelligent. It was a toss-up between that and socially challenged, and I decided, hey, I need to function socially for at least two hours to get a game in, so we cannot be that bad.

I looked at the poll results and I am now sad.

on any given day most people could be any number of those things..

Labels are best placed on products not people.

Mostly I find wargamers are my kind of people.

Cool Dudes.

I'm sure that most of us who have friends who are wargamers hang out and do non-wargamer stuff.

Though I agree with socially challenged.

I put smelly. It is the smell that truly binds us.

MarkyMark wrote:
There is a split for sure, I have met quite a few socially inept gamers as well as had communication online with some which to be fair you get there everwhere on the internet whether its online games wargaming forums or sports forums car forums etc.

I feel this post may be a dig at me in which case I applaud it and encourage the OP to continue to vent his feelings at a random person on the internet, let the anger out buddy.

Can we add paranoid to the poll?

 Eldarain wrote:

MarkyMark wrote:
There is a split for sure, I have met quite a few socially inept gamers as well as had communication online with some which to be fair you get there everwhere on the internet whether its online games wargaming forums or sports forums car forums etc.

I feel this post may be a dig at me in which case I applaud it and encourage the OP to continue to vent his feelings at a random person on the internet, let the anger out buddy.

Can we add paranoid to the poll?

Possibly, although given the comments aimed at me by the OP within a short time frame before this post was added, well acutally during, it is only logic to think it may be a factor.

Oh and I did say in which case

I am an attractive intelligent cool dude, which means other wargamers find me stupid and annoying.

 angel of ecstasy wrote:
I am an attractive intelligent cool dude, which means other wargamers find me stupid and annoying.

Or just Swedish I put cool dudes, even though many are somewhat trollish I find most are nice people. Well except for Tau players

 Trondheim wrote:

 angel of ecstasy wrote:
I am an attractive intelligent cool dude, which means other wargamers find me stupid and annoying.

Or just Swedish I put cool dudes, even though many are somewhat trollish I find most are nice people. Well except for Tau players

I went to Trondheim once. It was gak.

To be serious though, my circle of gamers are really cool guys and gals. The store crowd is a different story. Smug pedantic know-it-alls. So I'm not voting. *Looking over my shoulder for P Diddy*

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Flashman, you mentioned in an earlier thread that you were prepared to open the plastic sleeves on magazines, just so you can get a preview of WD.

In other words, you, like Nelson Mandela, are prepared to go to jail for your beliefs

Brave should be on that poll, because that's what we are, brave men ready to risk shame and ridicule from the public just for being nerds, brave men who will let nothing stop us (not even magazine sleeves) from getting what we want. Spartaaaaa!!!!

Not brave, just belligerent Having bought WD for decades up until a couple of months ago, think I've earned a few complimentary flick throughs