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 lucasbuffalo wrote:
Wonder what the battleforce contents will be.

1 x plastic feather sprue and half a landspeeder vengeance

 TBD wrote:

 Maelstrom808 wrote:

 TBD wrote:
Alright thanks.

Those prices compared to similar boxes (SW Terminators) are utterly rediculous Imo. Not sure if I find them acceptable.

??

DA Termis $50
GK Termis $50
SM Termis $50
SW Termis $50

Right now in EUROS a box of Space Wolves Terminators, regular Terminators, etc cost 35,-.

These guys suddenly cost 45,-.

Now looking at the pictures there do seem to be a buttload of options in there to pimp all my unbuilt Terminator kits, but still if those prices are correct that is a 10,- raise just like that. The bikers are 7,- more, and the flyer doesn't look to be much bigger than the Necron Doomscythe or the Ork flyer, but 23,- freaking euros more expensive.

I don't want to turn this into another price discussion, but if this is correct GW just crossed another line.

You've had it good then. For the US, any flavor of termis have been $50 for awhile.

Their stances seem rather more upright than previous marine models. Is that GW trying to tap into the 'truescale' thing?

I'm not keen on the characters but I really like the rest of the stuff.

The miniatures looks as though they have been made to sell in Toys R Us

 MetalOxide wrote:
The miniatures looks as though they have been made to sell in Toys R Us

This is true sadly GW deals in ebbs and flows DV was a good boxset I applauded but this is two shades of something good and something utter S**te ....

The flyers remind me a lot of the A-10 Warthog.
Of course I am sure a lot of the haters here will say that was a stupid looking plane too.

These are the first SM flyers that look like they could fly. The other two look like they should be more of a helicopter type craft than a fixed wing flyer.

The LS Vengeance reminds me of the old Grav Tank Design, except make it SM Box-like.

I like the bling on the Deathwing. Hopefully will distinguish them from codex terminators and put them on a level with the GK's.

Considering how animated the Space Hulk termies were along with Dark Eldar and also the Tau FW how on Terra can those Deathwing be so stilted in their poses??...having waited for some time now for these I find it hard to express how disappointed I am with the plain and boring upright stance of them.With all the poses a human can make it is incredible to think that the designers cannot come up with soemthing more exciting for all of us...the wargear looks great but surely the odd bended knee or swivel pose would add such movement and make us all so much happier.
Not the best end to 2012 after such along wait...fingers crossed the legs may be poseable on the termies and save us from the X shaped marine!

My many thanks to the OP for the photos.

I can say that I like all the models quite a lot (Landspeeder is the only exception, but then again not something too bad in my own eyes). As for the awkward post of Belial, guys have in mind that this might be because the page is slightly bent, which definitely distorts the models proportions.

Also, a request to the OP: If I do not sound too greedy, do you think you can post some more pics of the Terminators and their accompanying text? I would love to learn more about their equipment options. Ah, and I would definitely appreciate a better pic of Asmodai

THANKS AGAIN ZombieDK!!!!

P.S.: I just realised that the new price of the Termies makes them more expensive than the FW Terminator kits. Well, I find solace in the thought that they come with lots of weapon options and other useful bits.

Looks like BT will be stealing those Termi tabards for REAL Black Knights

Landrain wrote:
The LS Vengeance reminds me of the old Grav Tank Design, except make it SM Box-like.

Reminds me of the old RT-era Grav-Tank as well.

OP: Can you tell us the contents of the new Battleforce, please?

Good god those fliers are hideous.

But nowhere NEAR as hideous as that emperorforsaken uber landspeeder.

I've seen more sensible vehicles built by orks.

When I used to have my Crimson Ravens homebrew chapter about three or four years ago I had envisaged this elite inner circle Terminator armoured so the Deathwing Knights settle into that vision very well and may very well constitute a ressurection of the force.

That or a Deathwing army...

I am full thumbs up on those Deathwing Terminators the rest well its a bit stagnant... average GW fare throw it out there and await the praise or backlash..

Well, Terminators are not meant to be very flexible, so less dynamic leg poses are actually more realistic. They look better in the pictures without the robe-ish fronts. Those flaps hanging down do seem to make them look more plump.

I still have a hard time believing they'll actually cost 45,-. That seems rediculously harsh even for GW's standards.

wut.

Those vehicles are ridiculous.

 Souleater wrote:
OP: Can you tell us the contents of the new Battleforce, please?

From page 3

ZombieDK wrote:

 lucasbuffalo wrote:
Wonder what the battleforce contents will be.

same as before... i thought they might have added the new biker options. But when i look at the picture i see no Corvus helmets and no plasmas.. so still the old 6 bike, 1 attack bike and a land speeder battleforce

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Is it me, or is the flyer just a kitbash of the stormtalon, but with wings? Well at least I know I can use mine soon, then... (and not putting a load of candles on it either)

Lurv the termies, completely. Dark knights are very cool.

The landspeeder Mobile Worship Platform(tm) is not to my taste.

Agreed... that speeder variant is a miss.

I can’t see what the problems people are having with the minis (other than the Speeder, which is super-silly).

I can’t tell how good the bikes are right now, but the Termies and the flyer look great.

I don't get all the hate for the vehicles.

The speeder is a heavy gun platform and looks fine as such. Reminds me of the Tau tanks which don't seem to get this kind of hate at all.

And the flyer is the best Marine flyer yet (if built without the candle roof that is). Cockpit looks ok. Wings look ok. Tail looks ok. Weapons look ok. I don't see anything wrong with it this time around except for the price tag.

I like most of them, unusually. Termies are mostly a bit static, but I suspect the kit will allow for more interesting poses with a little work. It has a lot of options in, which does inherently increase the static look I think. I like the dude with the two-handed axe... will probably pick up a box of these, despite having more than enough DW already.

The flier is lovely -- my favourite of GW's space marine flyers.

Landspeeder vengeance is actually pretty nifty, but I find myself unwilling to part with £40 (or even £30) for one, so I'll be converting my two old metal landspeeders instead. Somehow.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I can’t see what the problems people are having with the minis (other than the Speeder, which is super-silly).

I can’t tell how good the bikes are right now, but the Termies and the flyer look great.

It's cool to hate new releases.

That Land Speeder looks like a bad kitbash, it's awful.

The new DA terminators look nice at least but really busy, I wouldn't want to have to paint them.

Belial looks ok if rather uninspiring.

Asmodai is nicely dynamic.

The bikes are...well...bikes.

The new flyer looks like someone sat a Lightning and a Thunderbolt next to each other and their consumation resulted thusly. At least it doesn't look like *just* a cockpit module like the Storm Talon does, but it does have the Stormaven's Chibi look a bit.



Overall, it looks like it's going to very much be a Ward release, lots of random new stuff pulled from nowhere and a complete re-write of long established fluff and hamfisting large amounts of previously lightly touched upon hints to justify the continued existence of an otherwise rather undifferentiated force as its own book for its own sake.


Plasma spam..HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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I wonder...............there is no pricing for the bikes. Im going to guess its an upgrade sprue.....and hopefully it will be packaged with the "Crusader Bike" upgrade from the release rumor list....

Hmm, i'm pretty sure I can get a good stormtalon conversion out of that flyer.

 Ian Sturrock wrote:
I like most of them, unusually. Termies are mostly a bit static, but I suspect the kit will allow for more interesting poses with a little work. It has a lot of options in, which does inherently increase the static look I think. I like the dude with the two-handed axe... will probably pick up a box of these, despite having more than enough DW already.

I don't know about that - just how dynamically posed can Terminators be and not look really goofy?

Anyway, I like them!

As for the rest - so good, some bad, and some silly, so in other words, a standard GW release cycle!

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Most everything looks great, especially how much the flyer is improved by longer wings. It now seem to remind me of the 'recently deceased' forgeworld aquila flyer.

The Terminators look very characterful and verymuch Dark Angels.

The speeder, however, looks bad, like someone stuck a lot of spare parts on with little thought on aesthetic or functionality. The forward turret looks strange and front heavy, like it's gunner must have had his legs amputated and the thrusters with thrusters on top again, looks like when we see poor examples of ork kitbashing and they just glue extra stuff on ad infinitum.

Agree completely!

Most of the range looks great, especially if you like the OTT toy-style GW is employing with everything these days. The flyer in particular looks awesome.

Land Speeder is pretty appalling though, managing to look worse than the first ever speeder made out of a deodarant bottle!

The terminators and knights are excellent looking.

The proof in the pudding for the Terminators will be when they are in hand on sprue..... for many of us this will be true will it not? with minatures for me the picture is just the first stage I like to see a mini in the flesh or plastic to see what the possibilities for conversions and kit bashing are so far most of GW's plastic range has been very compatible...

And those bikes the more I look at them the more they grow on me ....

 Vaktathi wrote:


Overall, it looks like it's going to very much be a Ward release, lots of random new stuff pulled from nowhere and a complete re-write of long established fluff and hamfisting large amounts of previously lightly touched upon hints to justify the continued existence of an otherwise rather undifferentiated force as its own book for its own sake.

Ward has nothing to do with the way the miniatures look, so I doubt you can conclude all of that just by looking at a few pictures.

The whole Ward hater meme was already dumb over a year ago, so imagine what is it right now.