DreamForge Games - Official News and Rumors Thread (KS coming March 25, pg 191)

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**shade1313**

Beats me. I haven't decided how to paint the one I'm building at the moment. Nor the other two. I'm really thinking about buying some more, just so I can really go to town with a whole bunch of different schemes, for fun and show. One will probably be done up in aged bronze, though, for use as a statue...and/or maybe one done up to look like it's marble or a similar stone.

**Conrad Turner**

Oh well. It'll take me another couple of days to get it ready for paint anyway. Was not up to much over the weekend, and still have a minor amount of clean-up at the back of the legs to do before I start.

Recently been working on using Alclad Candy Red on a model of Iron Man, but that certainly would not be the look I'm going for here.

Probably going for Vallejo black primer, followed by a very dark metallic look - possibly a variant "Black Knight" sort of thing in metallic, not flat black. If I do, gold trim is a certainty, possibly with some small amount of metallic red to pinpoint some features, with the bright silver/chrome sword blade.

**shade1313**

Conrad Turner wrote:
Oh well. It'll take me another couple of days to get it ready for paint anyway. Was not up to much over the weekend, and still have a minor amount of clean-up at the back of the legs to do before I start.

Recently been working on using Alclad Candy Red on a model of Iron Man, but that certainly would not be the look I'm going for here.

Probably going for Vallejo black primer, followed by a very dark metallic look - possibly a variant "Black Knight" sort of thing in metallic, not flat black. If I do, gold trim is a certainty, possibly with some small amount of metallic red to pinpoint some features, with the bright silver/chrome sword blade.

Mmmmmm, that could look absolutely fantastic.

**Conrad Turner**

Thank you Shade1313. That's almost exactly what I was going for.

But I have just realised that it means I need better paints.

[Shuffles off to spend MORE money]

**Theophony**

Just in case anyone was looking to buy more dreamforge stuff, I just saw yesterday that they have it on the Coolminiotnot.com website, somehow I just never saw that as an possibility. Just in case you want to buy zombicide and a leviathan at the same time to eliminate those nasty abominations

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**BobtheInquisitor**

Dreamforge is having a big Labor Day sale. It's worth checking out if you have any interest in their minis. The Eisenkern are $1.3 each if you get the 10-man kit. The 54mm Valkir is $12! For that price and a tub of bits, you could have your own army of Primarchs.

**shade1313**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Dreamforge is having a big Labor Day sale. It's worth checking out if you have any interest in their minis. The Eisenkern are $1.3 each if you get the 10-man kit. The 54mm Valkir is $12! For that price and a tub of bits, you could have your own army of Primarchs.

Based on the 54mm Valkir I've mostly assembled, he's WAY oversized for even a Primarch. Which is too bad, otherwise he'd already be Alpharius.

**Conrad Turner**

Yes, but nice as a statue terrain piece.

**shade1313**

Oh, absolutely. It's a fantastic model, and I'd love to see more of the line done in that bigger scale, they look like a joy to really go to town on with painting.

I'm glad the sale came along, this time, when I actually have some spare cash. I picked up lots of things that I've been wanting to add to the building/painting queue, although I wish I'd consulted what I already had, I'd have gotten another Loki/Thor if I'd realized that I had one more Keilerkopf than I thought I did. Still, more regular APCs don't hurt, especially when they're these particular ones.

**BobtheInquisitor**

Well, Dreamforge is having another huge sale. Lots of great kits at great prices, including WGF WW2 boxes. I hope this helps him realize the dream of plastic Shadokesh.

As for the yuge Valkir, scale creep is a hell of a drug.

**Kid_Kyoto**

Linky link.

http://dreamforge-games.com/

Sales runs to Nov 4

**BobtheInquisitor**

And the Black Friday sale leaves them all in the dust.

http://dreamforge-games.com/collections/all

I know people got on my case for doomsaying when he shifted warehouses, but these prices are so low I can't help but worry.

**shade1313**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
And the Black Friday sale leaves them all in the dust.

http://dreamforge-games.com/collections/all

I know people got on my case for doomsaying when he shifted warehouses, but these prices are so low I can't help but worry.

It's understandable, and unfortunately, beautiful models can only take it so far. It NEEDS, desperately, to have a game behind it, and opposition forces.

**BobtheInquisitor**

Iron Core 30,000?

The Kaiser is the master of the galaxy by the will of the nondenominational deity, and by the might of his inexhaustible armies. Chief among them are the Einmarchs, Hand-crafted demigods standing exactly twice as tall as a tall man. Each leads a mighty army of Valkir, (exceedingly well) engineered super soldiers in finely-machined power armor, as well as the men and women of the Eisenkern Guard, their towering Leviathan warmachines, the planetary patrol Spesswehrmacht, and the conscripted Cosmosoviet Russians.

First among equals is the Kaiser's own son, Horace, the Beliked Wunderkind, master of the Jadensmiths Legion, known and tolerated throughout the Eisenkern Empire as the Warmeister. However, Horace's heart has turned against the man who named him Horace, spurring him to spread the poison of sedition to half of his brothers and hatch vile plots. Long story short, you can buy the same army twice as long as you have two different paints.

The Eisenkern Empire needs funding like never before.

**Vertrucio**

That highlights the problem with chasing the big games, like 40K, is that while you might ride a bit on their tailcoats, you're still just a pale imitation of the original.

You're competing with the giant original game, complete with all its nostalgia. What's more, Mantic kind of has the cheap alternative market locked up even if Dreamforge's stuff looks way better.

What Dreamforge has is great, but even with rules behind it, it's still an imitator of something that's done and done, and done 20 times over already by others. It doesn't matter how good your rules play or how your game looks, you're not 40K.

It's like all those MMOs that tried to copy the success of WoW, the only ones still around are the ones that deliberately tried from the start be different or changed to be.

**ironicsilence**

Vertrucio wrote:
That highlights the problem with chasing the big games, like 40K, is that while you might ride a bit on their tailcoats, you're still just a pale imitation of the original.

You're competing with the giant original game, complete with all its nostalgia. What's more, Mantic kind of has the cheap alternative market locked up even if Dreamforge's stuff looks way better.

What Dreamforge has is great, but even with rules behind it, it's still an imitator of something that's done and done, and done 20 times over already by others. It doesn't matter how good your rules play or how your game looks, you're not 40K.

It's like all those MMOs that tried to copy the success of WoW, the only ones still around are the ones that deliberately tried from the start be different or changed to be.

This is the stance people seem to take every single time a new game comes out, theres lots of examples of systems that are running perfectly healthy. Sure they might not be at GW levels but I dont suspect any company really thinks they are going to be the next 40k. Warmachine is a prime example of a solid game that lots of people play. Theres a lot of people out there that would play a solid game (Iron Core) from dreamforge

**-DE-**

ironicsilence wrote:
Vertrucio wrote:
That highlights the problem with chasing the big games, like 40K, is that while you might ride a bit on their tailcoats, you're still just a pale imitation of the original.

You're competing with the giant original game, complete with all its nostalgia. What's more, Mantic kind of has the cheap alternative market locked up even if Dreamforge's stuff looks way better.

What Dreamforge has is great, but even with rules behind it, it's still an imitator of something that's done and done, and done 20 times over already by others. It doesn't matter how good your rules play or how your game looks, you're not 40K.

It's like all those MMOs that tried to copy the success of WoW, the only ones still around are the ones that deliberately tried from the start be different or changed to be.

This is the stance people seem to take every single time a new game comes out, theres lots of examples of systems that are running perfectly healthy. Sure they might not be at GW levels but I dont suspect any company really thinks they are going to be the next 40k. Warmachine is a prime example of a solid game that lots of people play. Theres a lot of people out there that would play a solid game (Iron Core) from dreamforge

You've completely missed the point of what he was saying.

Warmachine took off precisely because it was so much unlike 40K. Same with Infinity or Malifaux or X-Wing. DFG set out to make cheap stand-ins for 40K and it didn't work out, and it never does.

**BrookM**

Not sure if I'd call them cheap though.. If your replacement Chimera costs twice as much as the original..

**shade1313**

-DE- wrote:

Warmachine took off precisely because it was so much unlike 40K. Same with Infinity or Malifaux or X-Wing. DFG set out to make cheap stand-ins for 40K and it didn't work out, and it never does.

No, I really, really don't think that was Mark's intention at all. That they have been used as stand-ins by some people while we wait for a game and more factions does not equate to DFG's intentions in designing the range.

**BobtheInquisitor**

It's all academic since he never managed to get the Shadokesh to the market. That range would have set DFG apart.

**JoeRugby**

shipping always kills it for me

$37.68 for $42.50 of items which would be about £85 in total after tax and postman handling fee.

Would actually be cheaper to get from a U.K. Stockist by about £20 :(

**RiTides**

I am hoping Mark will show up again with an ace up his sleeve... he's obviously incredibly talented and I'd love to see him do something new! Would definitely back, and am happy to have backed for these (along with getting his stuff in resin before that).

**ultimentra**

If those Valkir assault troops are still around by the time I get off work I'll have to pick some up. Would be perfect for my Black Templars project.

**JohnHwangDD**

Tech-wise, Iron-Core should be more like 10k DAoT, but yeah, it needed Shadokesh. Sad that he wasn't able to push it forward.

**JoeRugby**

Anyone know what's happening with Mark and dreamforge?

We've got a sale at the moment but looking at the Facebook page there's not been anything new happening for ages.

**Kid_Kyoto**

Good news everyone!

From facebook today:

Hello everyone! HAPPY NEW YEARS!

Radio silence… yeah, I know. I have not been active for a very long time. Not that all of this has not been on my mind, I have been thinking endlessly about what to do and where to go next.

As many of you are aware, WGF US has shut its doors, I have taken over distribution of my kits and come to an agreement with China on how to sell the inventory that resided here in the US at the time WGF US was dissolved.

This left me with a very large question to ponder. What to do next, sell off the current stock and call it a day? Continue to work with China to produce new plastic? Find another manufacturer or process for future kits? Run more Kickstarters? All paths are big decisions with varied financial concerns.

At this point I feel the best option is to move towards another Kickstarter, what that looks like is still being worked out, but what is clear to me is that beyond this I need to clearly define a larger plan and bring in some help if possible to deal with other aspects that are currently ignored or nonexistent.

I am not quite ready to put any details out for public consumption as some pieces are still falling into place but as soon as this has been firmed up, I will be able to comment more on the direction and releases.

All the best!
Mark

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1401326060121348/?fref=nf

**JoeRugby**

Good to have some coms come from Dreamforge.

Best plastic kits on the market at the moment IMHO, hopefully whatever happens we can keep these on the market and hopefully finally get shadowkesh plastics

**RoninXiC**

Yeah, I wish them all the best luck in the future. This hobby needs individuals who are as technically perfect as Dreamforge.

**RiTides**

Oh man, I am so glad to hear that something is cooking! When it's marinated a bit, so to speak, we will definitely want to create a new thread for it

**ironicsilence**

this news pleases me, im a bit on the fence about whether a KS for a second race, or perhaps having it be for the starter set for his game would be better. Im torn on more models that have to be stand ins