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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Quicker to ask here than fumbling google.

Avengers Endgame. What is the rifle that Bucky is using? And is set up for us left handers?

As said before, M249-more generically, the FN Minimi.
They run almost equally well left-or-right handed-I don't believe that there is a left-handed version manufactured. Primary complaint is reloading on the run-which is difficult enough right-handed anyway, the ergonomics just make it suck for lefties.
Reasonably heavy gun, and I wish it had a bit more engineering in it (it's almost entirely stamped, and feels quite cheap and rattle-y as a result, in addition to having a million pinch points and sharp edges), but it does the job.

So I got my 458 socom sighted in with the ammo I loaded myself.

After 10 rounds getting it sighted in I got this grouping. The one in the bullseye was the one shot I got after I made a tweak following the 6 round group in the upper area. Unfortunately it began raining so I had to packup without completing another group, but I'm impressed with the consistency. Only frustration is that chambering is being an absolute It basically won't chamber fully unless the magazine has 3 or fewer rounds in it.

Been thinking about the concealed carry holster situation a bit.

My girlfriend's daughter is deathly scared of guns. She hates that her dad has one when they stay with him. Doesn't matter that he is a (mostly) responsible guy....she just hates them and *already* has significant anxiety issues (general, social, you name it).

I got thinking that I wouldn't want to spark her anxiety if I can help to avoid it.

An IWB holster could be a possibility I suppose but I seriously do not want to buy more and bigger pants, nor do I really want to put it in the small od my back.

So....

Anyone have any experience with Sneaky Pete holsters?

https://sneakypeteholsters.com/ruger-security-9-sneaky-pete-holster-belt-clip/?sku=SP-1294

It seems like it could be a decent option. The case could be looked at as a phone or knife case, perhaps?

It keeps the gun "out of sight" in a manner of speaking.

Just trying to think of ways to help her avoid having more anxiety on top of what she already experiences.

I also thought maybe a shoulder holster...as I definitely don't mind wearing open button shirts (like in the pic)

Based on how big a security nine is in the hand, that "cell phone" is going to be a huge cell phone, the size of which nobody has seen since the late 1980s. That gun is 7ish inches long, and 5 inches tall. (Even the compact version is about 6.5 inches long, but only 4.5 tall). Point is, they are not SMALL by any means, and thus, they are less easily concealed.

I don't carry so take my advice with a great grain of salt, but some of the 9mm pistols get about 6x5 (the security 9 is like 7.3x5inches long but the s9 compact is more like 6.5 by 4.
A couple taurus guns and things like the pico are similar sized smaller options, .380's get smaller still.

The NAA .380 gaurdian is under 5 inches x 3.5, and the microrevolvers are about 4 inch by 2 inch. (note some of those have foldable handles).

Point is , you can get a LOT smaller than a security nine, and still have a fair bit of firepower (especially if you put an extra magazine or two in the little fannypack carry pouch)

It wouldn't be hard to carry a microrevolver style .22mwr with a knife as backup (or even a leatherman tool knife blade as backup) and have nearly no "burden of concealed carry" compared to something full sized like a security nine (which , really, is kind of the gun a cop would carry on duty in full uniform in his big holster, as far as size goes, its not built to conceal.)

I could have sworn I replied to this topic. Shrug.

Shoulder holsters suck. A lot. Especially against bare skin.

A good quality IWB holster under a loose top is often enough. I carried a G26 or a G17 that way for years to work (like 23) and was only made after about 20. My wife even spent the first 8 years of our marriage asking me if I had my gun on me. She eventually stopped asking after the reply was 100% yes.

I'd suggest getting a smaller gun like an LCP or a Glock 43x or a Glock 48. Thinner is key to easy concealability.

I tried a Sneaky Pete holster for my Glock 26. Sent it back the next day. It was way too big hanging on a belt, looked and felt abnormal.

Maybe i I had a teeny tiny .38 I would consider one, but my Galco Super Tuck (or whatever it is called) works with my Glock.

Kayback wrote:


Shoulder holsters suck. A lot. Especially against bare skin.

Well, yes. Which is why I'm sure everybody who does carry like that has an undershirt.

 Grey Templar wrote:

Kayback wrote:


Shoulder holsters suck. A lot. Especially against bare skin.

Well, yes. Which is why I'm sure everybody who does carry like that has an undershirt.

Yet he failed to mention one so I was just reminding him. If you're going to make wardrobe adjustments to accommodate your carry there are better ways of doing that.

I don't have any experience with the Sneaky Pete holsters, but use an IWB myself. They have their drawbacks, but I haven't found pants size in and of itself to be an issue if it wasn't one already. Definitely wound not recommend shoulder holsters for a variety of reasons (I have one picked up for costume giggles, they're awful in my experience for actual carry).

The way I carry concealed in the summer is to wear cargo shorts. I'm a bigger guy, I carry a Taurus 709, and I have a pocket holster in my cargo short's DEEP pockets. The pockets are large enough that reaching in, grabbing the handle and pulling it out isn't a problem. The pocket is also shallow enough that I don't feel like I'm reaching for my knee through my pants.

The main issue I have with pocket-carry is that you lose the availability of a pocket. With cargo shorts it's less of an issue. I keep my car keys and pistol on the right hip, wallet and phone on the left. Extra mag in the pocket lower down on my right leg.


In the winter I carry my Springfield XDM, and it slips perfectly into my winter coat. No fuss, no muss there.

Kayback wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:

Kayback wrote:


Shoulder holsters suck. A lot. Especially against bare skin.

Well, yes. Which is why I'm sure everybody who does carry like that has an undershirt.

Yet he failed to mention one so I was just reminding him. If you're going to make wardrobe adjustments to accommodate your carry there are better ways of doing that.

Sorry I wasn't so specific.

Yes, I wear solid undershirts when I wear my button shirts open.

The ladies can only take seeing so much sexy

I kind of thought of cargo shorts/pants...may have to explore that.....may also just have to get *a* holster of some kind and give it a go.

Tbf , Hiding the gun won't solve the anxiety issue(s) now doesn't it?

Edit : autocorrect is the Name of my curse.

 TheMeanDM wrote:
Been thinking about the concealed carry holster situation a bit.

My girlfriend's daughter is deathly scared of guns. She hates that her dad has one when they stay with him. Doesn't matter that he is a (mostly) responsible guy....she just hates them and *already* has significant anxiety issues (general, social, you name it).

I got thinking that I wouldn't want to spark her anxiety if I can help to avoid it.

An IWB holster could be a possibility I suppose but I seriously do not want to buy more and bigger pants, nor do I really want to put it in the small od my back.

So....

Anyone have any experience with Sneaky Pete holsters?

https://sneakypeteholsters.com/ruger-security-9-sneaky-pete-holster-belt-clip/?sku=SP-1294



It seems like it could be a decent option. The case could be looked at as a phone or knife case, perhaps?

It keeps the gun "out of sight" in a manner of speaking.

Just trying to think of ways to help her avoid having more anxiety on top of what she already experiences.

I also thought maybe a shoulder holster...as I definitely don't mind wearing open button shirts (like in the pic)

Spoiler:

I have used shoulder holsters a lot. Definitely some down sides starting with sweeping yourself every time you draw/holster. However it can be a reasonable holster for full size or large (S&W Mod 29 in my case ).

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About 3 weeks ago we had three snakes kill two chicks and eat a crap ton of eggs from the chicken coop and duck coop in a 10 day period. Wife was really upset, especially about the chicks. I keep a .22 rifle outside (in a weatherproof case) near the chicken coop, but it is hard to use in the laying box area since it is long. The .410 shot shells the Judge fires are too much (they would shred the coop). So wife wanted something she could use in the coop to pop the no legged chick killin egg thieves.

Hence the purchase.

That seems a bit... extravagant. I just used an entrenching tool for that myself.

 BaronIveagh wrote:
That seems a bit... extravagant. I just used an entrenching tool for that myself.

Lets see you swing one in the egg laying area of the coop.

So, are you planning on using rat shot or standard rounds? Rat shot shouldn't damage your coop.

Whoops. Never mind. Didn't notice the cartridges in the photo were rat shot.

 CptJake wrote:

 BaronIveagh wrote:
That seems a bit... extravagant. I just used an entrenching tool for that myself.

Lets see you swing one in the egg laying area of the coop.

Since I've never had a problem doing exactly that, I have to ask how small your coop is? Ours is a bit smaller than a three bay garage.

Our egg room is barely 3.5 feet wide, and the 18 egg boxes (three high 6 across) take up about 18 of those inches, and the ceiling is about 5 ft.

Existing structure on the property. The 'hang out while not laying' area is probably 20x25 ft.


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And picked up a new toy today:

Can't wait to try out the binary trigger!

Nice. I have been tempted for months now to get a binary trigger for my Scorpion.

 CptJake wrote:
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About 3 weeks ago we had three snakes kill two chicks and eat a crap ton of eggs from the chicken coop and duck coop in a 10 day period. Wife was really upset, especially about the chicks. I keep a .22 rifle outside (in a weatherproof case) near the chicken coop, but it is hard to use in the laying box area since it is long. The .410 shot shells the Judge fires are too much (they would shred the coop). So wife wanted something she could use in the coop to pop the no legged chick killin egg thieves.

Hence the purchase.

Being a Brit, and therefore poorly educated in the world of guns and reptiles? I’d probably just try twatting them with a shovel?

You know how the UK only has a single, non-aggressive venomous snake? It's not the same here.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Being a Brit, and therefore poorly educated in the world of guns and reptiles? I’d probably just try twatting them with a shovel?

Which was my response, despite being an American, with plenty of guns of my own. The German square entrenching tool works wonders on them when you sharpen the blade. Also good for other things, like home defense in a pinch as well. Or axe (shovel?) throwing.

 CptJake wrote:
Our egg room is barely 3.5 feet wide, and the 18 egg boxes (three high 6 across) take up about 18 of those inches, and the ceiling is about 5 ft.

Existing structure on the property. The 'hang out while not laying' area is probably 20x25 ft.

Ok, yeah, that's what the sharp edge is for on the entrenching tool. Also, damn, I'm taller than the ceiling in that coop. I mean, feth, that's like nipple height on me.


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 Ouze wrote:
You know how the UK only has a single, non-aggressive venomous snake? It's not the same here.

Your list isn't very accurate, since I've killed cottonmouths in PA as well as copperheads.

If only the site carried a disclaimer at the top of the page saying it wasn't authoritative.

I'm honestly surprised that the chickens aren't dealing with the snakes themselves.

Anvildude wrote:
I'm honestly surprised that the chickens aren't dealing with the snakes themselves.

While your typical backyard chicken can and will definitely kill a small snake, they are not going to take on a full grown rattler or cottonmouth. These aren't little garter snakes, they're 4-6 foot long and could easily kill a whole flock if they were inclined.

That said, if you have something like a Malay or Shamo they could actually kill a rattler and maybe survive the experience, but your typical chicken probably will give a big snake a wide berth.

 Grey Templar wrote:


While your typical backyard chicken can and will definitely kill a small snake, they are not going to take on a full grown rattler or cottonmouth. These aren't little garter snakes, they're 4-6 foot long and could easily kill a whole flock if they were inclined.

That said, if you have something like a Malay or Shamo they could actually kill a rattler and maybe survive the experience, but your typical chicken probably will give a big snake a wide berth.

See, around here rattlers only get about 2 to 4 foot (Eastern Massasaugas). And chickens are stupid, they'll give it a go. Which typically means that if we don't get it before the chickens notice it, we'll go from 500 chickens and 1 snake to 495 and bits of snake. They're like bloody piranha when they think they're bigger than the target.

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:


While your typical backyard chicken can and will definitely kill a small snake, they are not going to take on a full grown rattler or cottonmouth. These aren't little garter snakes, they're 4-6 foot long and could easily kill a whole flock if they were inclined.

That said, if you have something like a Malay or Shamo they could actually kill a rattler and maybe survive the experience, but your typical chicken probably will give a big snake a wide berth.

See, around here rattlers only get about 2 to 4 foot (Eastern Massasaugas). And chickens are stupid, they'll give it a go. Which typically means that if we don't get it before the chickens notice it, we'll go from 500 chickens and 1 snake to 495 and bits of snake. They're like bloody piranha when they think they're bigger than the target.

When I was a kid our house cat would anger my mother by bringing home dead animals. One day she screamed as he drug in a baby timber rattler that was about 20 inches long. I have no idea how he killed it without being bitten.

Hunters vs hunters! The rattlers need to draw their head back and uncoil to strike. Cats instinctively strike the neck area normally, so if snek was just plodding along or suning himself he was totally screwed. Snakes hunting techniques don't favor straight up conflict anyway. Thermal and sent are great tools for ambush but it's not super accurate in a classic throw down. If chickens were more raptor like in the kill technique the snakes would by really screwed, but chickens....